I just watched TLO's Game and I think Hyperdub is a son of a bitch and he's even more ugly than the the guy who translates the Artosis Interviews on GOMTV.
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noobkid
Germany1 Post
I just watched TLO's Game and I think Hyperdub is a son of a bitch and he's even more ugly than the the guy who translates the Artosis Interviews on GOMTV. User was banned for this post. | ||
hydraden
United States719 Posts
On September 21 2010 03:18 leetchaos wrote: Pretty telling of how young the game is with this many all-in proxies in a tournament like this. I dont think you can say "many" cheese in SC2. I thought it has even less cheeses compared to current BW tournaments. | ||
0neder
United States3733 Posts
On September 21 2010 03:02 JinDesu wrote: Show nested quote + On September 21 2010 02:55 revoN wrote: Can't believe Tastosis missed those two DTs in AnyproPrime vs oGsTheWinD g1 (check VOD at around 27:36)... not that it was anything game changing at that point but still. YEAH! I SAW THAT! Might not have been game-changing, but still, a few drones here and there do add up. He shouldn't be obsing. They should be going off a 3rd party obs so he can focus on the game and being funny like we know he can. =) | ||
tipakee
United States127 Posts
On September 21 2010 03:38 Dr.Frost wrote: Is everybody forgetting the double proxy rax TLO just did to Dimaga? It seems to me that this kid deserved to lose. He can dish it, but his fans can't take it? Come on guys. TLO cheeses all the time too. + Show Spoiler + I think you and HD are the only ones that think building barracks at your own natural means proxy | ||
Dionyseus
United States2068 Posts
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DeSam
Belgium84 Posts
what a way to end a epic series.... TLO is a much better player! | ||
Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
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Dr.Frost
United States389 Posts
On September 21 2010 03:50 tipakee wrote: Show nested quote + On September 21 2010 03:38 Dr.Frost wrote: Is everybody forgetting the double proxy rax TLO just did to Dimaga? It seems to me that this kid deserved to lose. He can dish it, but his fans can't take it? Come on guys. TLO cheeses all the time too. + Show Spoiler + I think you and HD are the only ones that think building barracks at your own natural means proxy Well jesus the map is so small.... It is closer than a proxy on most maps. | ||
Dionyseus
United States2068 Posts
On September 21 2010 03:51 DeSam wrote: i hate hyperdub :'( what a way to end a epic series.... TLO is a much better player! If he's much better then why did he lose the match? Hyperdub was ahead in the early game in all three games, it's in the lategame that hyperdub needs some improvement, at least in tvt. | ||
kiendudu
Netherlands273 Posts
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iSTime
1579 Posts
On September 21 2010 03:51 Dionyseus wrote: In game 3 TheWind could have killed that second proxy pylon if he just sacced a few of his lings, it only had like 30hp left, the p managed to warp in so many units because of that. Horrible play by TheWind in this series. You say this as if the protoss player wouldn't be able to rebuild the pylon if it went down. Plus, he could easily like 6+ lings trying to kill the pylon, and a well placed force field or 2 could potentially save the pylon and still get several ling kills, which in a close game can decide the game. | ||
Jacopana
El Salvador210 Posts
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Glasse
Canada1237 Posts
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SONE
Canada839 Posts
On September 21 2010 03:43 noobkid wrote: Hello Tl! I just watched TLO's Game and I think Hyperdub is a son of a bitch and he's even more ugly than the the guy who translates the Artosis Interviews on GOMTV. Somebody hurt his hero lost? TLO is good but he lost, get over it. All these people dick riding TLO, he lost please just get over it. No I don't hate TLO, but people like him for the wrong reasons. It's like people liking idra because he BM's, not because he is a good player. | ||
Autxmn
United States7 Posts
On September 21 2010 03:55 Dionyseus wrote: Show nested quote + On September 21 2010 03:51 DeSam wrote: i hate hyperdub :'( what a way to end a epic series.... TLO is a much better player! If he's much better then why did he lose the match? Hyperdub was ahead in the early game in all three games, it's in the lategame that hyperdub needs some improvement, at least in tvt. I really wanted TLO to win, but this is what Hyperdub needed to do because of what Dionyseus wrote. TLO was rocking the late game and the first match especially of the series were long, drawn out battles over attrition. TLO should have expected something like that. Good luck to both of them in the future! ~"All's fair in love and war." | ||
Koukalaka
United Kingdom80 Posts
On September 21 2010 04:03 Glasse wrote: All of you complaining about cheese make me laugh. If TLO did it himself and won you guys would be all over his cock. He got beat by a perfectly executed cheese. Cheese = part of the game, also i feel like 2 many strats are called cheese... This. Jaedong 4 pools FlaSh twice in a row in the OSL Finals. The response: "OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG SO TENSE." When Jaedong pulls a victory: "OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG WHAT AMAZING MICRO." When Jaedong loses to FlaSh's SCV micro: "OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG WHAT AMAZING MICRO." Really wish people would stop the random hate... In all three games Hyperdub had the advantage: his micro and macro just seemed so much better and it had more fluidity to it in my opinion. Hyperdub had obvious methodic followups after his Proxy Banshee (game 1) failed- teched straight to siege tanks to setup a contain to catch up. Brilliant tactics. I'd even argue Hyperdub had a followup if his cheese was "caught". | ||
Humdrum
40 Posts
On September 21 2010 04:03 SONE wrote: Show nested quote + On September 21 2010 03:43 noobkid wrote: Hello Tl! I just watched TLO's Game and I think Hyperdub is a son of a bitch and he's even more ugly than the the guy who translates the Artosis Interviews on GOMTV. Somebody hurt his hero lost? TLO is good but he lost, get over it. All these people dick riding TLO, he lost please just get over it. No I don't hate TLO, but people like him for the wrong reasons. It's like people liking idra because he BM's, not because he is a good player. I'm not sure how this is a similar situation at all. People like TLO because he's one of, if not the most creative and entertaining player in the world. If there's a player that people like for the right reasons, it's TLO. | ||
SONE
Canada839 Posts
On September 21 2010 04:08 Humdrum wrote: Show nested quote + On September 21 2010 04:03 SONE wrote: On September 21 2010 03:43 noobkid wrote: Hello Tl! I just watched TLO's Game and I think Hyperdub is a son of a bitch and he's even more ugly than the the guy who translates the Artosis Interviews on GOMTV. Somebody hurt his hero lost? TLO is good but he lost, get over it. All these people dick riding TLO, he lost please just get over it. No I don't hate TLO, but people like him for the wrong reasons. It's like people liking idra because he BM's, not because he is a good player. I'm not sure how this is a similar situation at all. People like TLO because he's one of, if not the most creative and entertaining player in the world. If there's a player that people like for the right reasons, it's TLO. Most people like TLO because day9 likes him. | ||
Dionyseus
United States2068 Posts
On September 20 2010 18:52 boesthius wrote: I can't believe the poll results, that game was pure garbage. The P would have died to speedlings in less than 10 minutes against any diamond zerg, including me. TheWind made so many noob mistakes like leaving 7 broodlords without any support losing all of them to stalkers, and letting AnyProPrime recoup by allowing him to take the gold expo. horrible game | ||
Vz0
Canada378 Posts
On September 20 2010 22:50 qtpie wrote: i actually don't particularly support TLO or hate him, but in the first game, the back and forth between their lines got me excited and interested in what might happen next as the slightest shift in balance will allow the other player to push foward, as well as action happening on multiple fronts meaning that both players must micro well, and i find their ability to continuously macro while having nonstop tiny engagements to be very impressive. the third game was kind of a let down for me, not because TLO lost, but because the method by which he lost. A proxy 7 rax is the kind of cheese I believe to be one decided at the toss of a coin. Had it been scouted i am sure it could've been stopped by an able player. Of course, not checking the mineral line is tlo's own fault and scouting the position last is lucky for dub, but from an observer's point of view that 7 rax build requires little to no skill. From a strategy point of view, a strategy that relies on your opponent doing something wrong and having perfect luck in random things such as spawning position or how the enemy scouts is, in my opinion, not a good or viable strategy. As a person who watches these matches for the interesting plays, this kind of strategic execution is some what of a disappointment. Considering how able both players were, there was no macro going on in the third game, there was no micro (balled up marine that isn't moving doesn't take that much microing I don't think), no such thing as unit composition, and he wasn't even brave enough to pull all SCVs in for a ballsy all in so the manliness factor doesn't come into play either. All points considered I don't see why that particular game can be considered well played. [edit] I don't consider all cheeses to require no skill, it's just that a few marines balled up standing there killing stuff isn't too particularly skill intensive... the strategy was well executed. Its a cheese as going hatch first then pool. Any strategy that can win a game is a good strategy. In fact watch HDstarcraft's latest cast of Dimaga vs TLO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4lHPDk_buw TLO does nearly the same thing to dimaga in the finals. MY POINT IS: This game is this game. If you don't like how this game works, player another game. The reason why starcraft is so succesful is because it holds competition in every second of the game. There is no "downtime". From scv rush to 200/200 fight. If you want a laid back chill, macro up, huge army big army clash boom boom.. eh.. is there even a game for that? | ||
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