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JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
September 20 2010 19:12 GMT
#3021
On September 21 2010 04:07 Koukalaka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2010 04:03 Glasse wrote:
All of you complaining about cheese make me laugh. If TLO did it himself and won you guys would be all over his cock. He got beat by a perfectly executed cheese. Cheese = part of the game, also i feel like 2 many strats are called cheese...


This.

Jaedong 4 pools FlaSh twice in a row in the OSL Finals.

The response:

"OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG SO TENSE."

When Jaedong pulls a victory:

"OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG WHAT AMAZING MICRO."

When Jaedong loses to FlaSh's SCV micro:

"OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG WHAT AMAZING MICRO."

Really wish people would stop the random hate... In all three games Hyperdub had the advantage: his micro and macro just seemed so much better and it had more fluidity to it in my opinion. Hyperdub had obvious methodic followups after his Proxy Banshee (game 1) failed- teched straight to siege tanks to setup a contain to catch up. Brilliant tactics. I'd even argue Hyperdub had a followup if his cheese was "caught".


lol, in all fairness, the "amazing micro" wasn't really there in the last game. not saying it was a bad game.
Yargh
WickedBit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States343 Posts
September 20 2010 19:14 GMT
#3022
Wow people are getting really worked up over this cheese stuff. If people assume stuff about their opponents and their opponents takes advantage of it then they deserve to lose. Most cheeses are stoppable if scouted.
Some of the korean players in GSL seem to have their building placements or scouting patterns set up to prevent this sort of stuff. A lot of players scout around their mains and naturals religiously for cheese plays, proxy pylons etc. Noone is going to play a 30 minute game when they can win in 5 mins by exploiting a chink in their opponents armor. Its up to the player who is playing for mid/late game to ensure that he can get there by ensuring that his opponent is upto no tricks.
iSTime
Profile Joined November 2006
1579 Posts
September 20 2010 19:14 GMT
#3023
On September 21 2010 04:11 Dionyseus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2010 18:52 boesthius wrote:
Poll: Recommended Game 2 Anypro < Lost Temple > TheWinD?

Yes (148)
 
93%

No (11)
 
7%

159 total votes

Your vote: Recommended Game 2 Anypro < Lost Temple > TheWinD?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No



I can't believe the poll results, that game was pure garbage. The P would have died to speedlings in less than 10 minutes against any diamond zerg, including me. TheWind made so many noob mistakes like leaving 7 broodlords without any support losing all of them to stalkers, and letting AnyProPrime recoup by allowing him to take the gold expo. horrible game


Would you stop responding? We know you want to show off that you're 800 in diamond, but seriously...
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DaRkFrosT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States407 Posts
September 20 2010 19:15 GMT
#3024
So many people crying about TLO losing.

Get over it.

It was a Bo3 and the better player won.

Gj Hyperdub.
Libera me from hell.
Koukalaka
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom80 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-20 19:18:29
September 20 2010 19:16 GMT
#3025
On September 21 2010 04:12 JinDesu wrote:
lol, in all fairness, the "amazing micro" wasn't really there in the last game. not saying it was a bad game.


Did you watch the Marine micro? TLO had the Marines surrounded by the SCVs and Hyperdub targetted the 'smaller' cluster of SCVs to the right of the main's edge allowing him to move freely around the Barracks while the Bunker was constructed.

Your typical diamond level player would have just auto attacked and lost the Marines to the SCVs. Hyperdub didn't lose a single marine.
Grummler
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany743 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-20 19:19:54
September 20 2010 19:16 GMT
#3026
I dislike TLOs early thor play. The lack of vikings/banshees always gave him a lot of trouble. Thors can shoot air, fine, but they are so fat and slow that one single banshee can to a lot of dmg. Thats the reason why TLO nearly lost the 1st game, and lost the 2nd. The cheese was annoying, but TLO could have lost 0-2 right away without any cheese involved.

Still entertaining to watch. Lets hope for gsl season 2.
workers, supply, money, workers, supply, money, workers, ...
Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
September 20 2010 19:18 GMT
#3027
On September 21 2010 03:57 PJA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2010 03:51 Dionyseus wrote:
In game 3 TheWind could have killed that second proxy pylon if he just sacced a few of his lings, it only had like 30hp left, the p managed to warp in so many units because of that. Horrible play by TheWind in this series.


You say this as if the protoss player wouldn't be able to rebuild the pylon if it went down. Plus, he could easily like 6+ lings trying to kill the pylon, and a well placed force field or 2 could potentially save the pylon and still get several ling kills, which in a close game can decide the game.


It would still give you more time to build up your defense. A lot better than running your lings around the map doing nothing that an overlord or a single zergling couldn't do.
9/5/10 P acct: NA D 10,683 651pts 69w56L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/290365/LetoAtreides T acct: NA D 16,137 553pts 70w67L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/1560008/Khrone Z: NA G 16,058 465pts 28w26L http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/1997354/Omnius
Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
September 20 2010 19:21 GMT
#3028
On September 21 2010 04:14 PJA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2010 04:11 Dionyseus wrote:
On September 20 2010 18:52 boesthius wrote:
Poll: Recommended Game 2 Anypro < Lost Temple > TheWinD?

Yes (148)
 
93%

No (11)
 
7%

159 total votes

Your vote: Recommended Game 2 Anypro < Lost Temple > TheWinD?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No



I can't believe the poll results, that game was pure garbage. The P would have died to speedlings in less than 10 minutes against any diamond zerg, including me. TheWind made so many noob mistakes like leaving 7 broodlords without any support losing all of them to stalkers, and letting AnyProPrime recoup by allowing him to take the gold expo. horrible game


Would you stop responding? We know you want to show off that you're 800 in diamond, but seriously...


Are you trying to say protoss could get away with fe without cannon support against any competent zerg? TheWind was just awful in that series.
9/5/10 P acct: NA D 10,683 651pts 69w56L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/290365/LetoAtreides T acct: NA D 16,137 553pts 70w67L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/1560008/Khrone Z: NA G 16,058 465pts 28w26L http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/1997354/Omnius
bjornkavist
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1235 Posts
September 20 2010 19:23 GMT
#3029
no more foreigners, I really like Hyperdub's name tho, it sounds so cool. But gotta cheer for that SC2 Baby/Koll
https://soundcloud.com/bbols
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
September 20 2010 19:27 GMT
#3030
On September 21 2010 04:16 Koukalaka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2010 04:12 JinDesu wrote:
lol, in all fairness, the "amazing micro" wasn't really there in the last game. not saying it was a bad game.


Did you watch the Marine micro? TLO had the Marines surrounded by the SCVs and Hyperdub targetted the 'smaller' cluster of SCVs to the right of the main's edge allowing him to move freely around the Barracks while the Bunker was constructed.

Your typical diamond level player would have just auto attacked and lost the Marines to the SCVs. Hyperdub didn't lose a single marine.


Am I to compare his micro in that last game to a typical diamond player? No, I'm comparing to his competition in the tournament. Yes, he picked his way out of the mass of scvs and mules, what were his spare 2 scvs there doing? If he actually did lose those 5 marines, would those 2 scvs have been the critical factor?

Tester micros 1 zealot and 2 probes againsts 2 zealots by sliding the probes in between right as NFS's zealot is trying to attack Tester's zealot. Then pulls out and attacks with the zealot. All while microing a zealot and a probe to attack a zealot and a lotta probes.

Now - the critical question is - did Hyperdub need to micro as much in his last game, especially where he probably felt he would win at that point? Maybe not so - but that's a point where people are complaining about. The lack of "OMGOMGOMG, IS TLO GOING TO HOLD IT OFF?!" or "OMGOMGOMG HYPERDUB BLOCKS ALL THE SCVS CHASING WITH HIS TWO SCVS" isn't there.
Yargh
Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
September 20 2010 19:44 GMT
#3031
:'( so sad for you TLO. You're a great player, i'm shure you saw your little errors better than the rest of us. I think with more clean play & multitasking you can reach the heights of something similar to a S-Class BW player, everything is there.

gg's work hard i'm still a fan!!
IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
September 20 2010 19:46 GMT
#3032
So much Hyperdub hate. TLO lost, let's move on.

Grats to Hyperdub (although I hope one of the few, proud Zs left owns him).
Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
Grond
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
599 Posts
September 20 2010 19:47 GMT
#3033
It's disappointing we didn't get to see a full game on what is by far the best map imo. I felt Hyperdub was a little dishonest in his interview saying he was confident he would win after seeing TLO's play in the first game. If you're confident you are the better player you don't do an All In, especially in a mirror match on Metalopolis.
Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
September 20 2010 19:53 GMT
#3034
ogsEnsnare brutalizes Bleach, and will do the same to AnyProPrime on September 27.
9/5/10 P acct: NA D 10,683 651pts 69w56L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/290365/LetoAtreides T acct: NA D 16,137 553pts 70w67L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/1560008/Khrone Z: NA G 16,058 465pts 28w26L http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/1997354/Omnius
ysysys
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany24 Posts
September 20 2010 19:53 GMT
#3035
On September 21 2010 04:47 Grond wrote:
It's disappointing we didn't get to see a full game on what is by far the best map imo. I felt Hyperdub was a little dishonest in his interview saying he was confident he would win after seeing TLO's play in the first game. If you're confident you are the better player you don't do an All In, especially in a mirror match on Metalopolis.


I think his conclusion was not to get into a mid/end game again, so the early rush was consequent along with his statement.
IdrA: "FFS terrans can even counter chicken pox!"
viraltouch
Profile Joined July 2010
United States299 Posts
September 20 2010 19:53 GMT
#3036
only tester can defend unscouted proxy rushes. sucks for tlo, better luck next time.
Kaasflipje
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands198 Posts
September 20 2010 19:55 GMT
#3037
First game of the TLO series was a great game. Too bad he lost, hope he learns from it!
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
September 20 2010 19:56 GMT
#3038
On September 21 2010 04:47 Grond wrote:
It's disappointing we didn't get to see a full game on what is by far the best map imo. I felt Hyperdub was a little dishonest in his interview saying he was confident he would win after seeing TLO's play in the first game. If you're confident you are the better player you don't do an All In, especially in a mirror match on Metalopolis.


Could be that he felt he could win, faced a pretty tough battle in game 2 and decided "hey, I'm winning because my early game is more solid than his. That means his early game is susceptible to rush. I'm tired after one super long game, and one not-as-long-but-still-difficult, let me try my proxy rush."
Yargh
Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
September 20 2010 19:56 GMT
#3039
Should have sent 1 marine to wipe out 12 of Hyper's SCV's, totally worked for Tester.
MaBe
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States97 Posts
September 20 2010 19:58 GMT
#3040
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I know I am late but had to make one. Still shouting TLO FIGHTAN!!!
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