EPT[GSL] Open S1 - Ro32 Day 4 - Page 153
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Vz0
Canada378 Posts
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Sanski
United States57 Posts
On September 21 2010 04:47 Grond wrote: It's disappointing we didn't get to see a full game on what is by far the best map imo. I felt Hyperdub was a little dishonest in his interview saying he was confident he would win after seeing TLO's play in the first game. If you're confident you are the better player you don't do an All In, especially in a mirror match on Metalopolis. This...is just plain wrong. The better player needs to do whatever is necessary to get him the win. | ||
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Tanatos
United States381 Posts
Still, TLO FAITING!!! | ||
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JinDesu
United States3990 Posts
On September 21 2010 05:03 Sanski wrote: This...is just plain wrong. The better player needs to do whatever is necessary to get him the win. No, that isn't very right either. When you are a better player, and you know it, you play your strengths. Usually that implies a full game where you can outmacro/outmicro/whatever you do against the opponent. When you throw down a cheese that CAN fail if spotted, then regardless of your skill level, you just threw the game away. That is that Grond is getting at. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On September 21 2010 04:03 Glasse wrote: All of you complaining about cheese make me laugh. If TLO did it himself and won you guys would be all over his cock. He got beat by a perfectly executed cheese. Cheese = part of the game, also i feel like 2 many strats are called cheese... If you dont' think proxy 2 rax is cheese then I have no idea what is (especially at the natural...) Either way it wasn't too surprising as hyberdub's early game was better in all 3 games. I do have to question though in Game 3 maybe I was too tired but didn't hyberdub come on the ramp and scout TLO for a second then pull back? did TLO not see that scv? If he did I am not sure why he scouted all the bases should have known it had to be close positions but maybe he didn't see it which is possible I guess. Game 1 was crazy though heh I bet hyberdub had to have been kicking himself after losing a game he had won the whole time xD. | ||
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JinDesu
United States3990 Posts
On September 21 2010 05:07 blade55555 wrote: If you dont' think proxy 2 rax is cheese then I have no idea what is (especially at the natural...) Either way it wasn't too surprising as hyberdub's early game was better in all 3 games. I do have to question though in Game 3 maybe I was too tired but didn't hyberdub come on the ramp and scout TLO for a second then pull back? did TLO not see that scv? If he did I am not sure why he scouted all the bases should have known it had to be close positions but maybe he didn't see it which is possible I guess. Game 1 was crazy though heh I bet hyberdub had to have been kicking himself after losing a game he had won the whole time xD. Hyperdub got his scv close enough to see the mining effect in the fog - he didn't really see any units from TLO, and thereby TLO didn't see any units from Hyper. | ||
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hydraden
United States719 Posts
On September 21 2010 04:08 Humdrum wrote: I'm not sure how this is a similar situation at all. People like TLO because he's one of, if not the most creative and entertaining player in the world. If there's a player that people like for the right reasons, it's TLO. That's just your opinion, and he has not actually win anything yet. In your mouth, he's like nada already. In BW proscene, this kind of so called talents pop up every month. | ||
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hydraden
United States719 Posts
On September 21 2010 04:16 Koukalaka wrote: Did you watch the Marine micro? TLO had the Marines surrounded by the SCVs and Hyperdub targetted the 'smaller' cluster of SCVs to the right of the main's edge allowing him to move freely around the Barracks while the Bunker was constructed. Your typical diamond level player would have just auto attacked and lost the Marines to the SCVs. Hyperdub didn't lose a single marine. I think you assumed wrong, if you have any game sense at all, you will definitely attack the weak side of the SCV line. If you did not, then you are a noob. | ||
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hydraden
United States719 Posts
On September 21 2010 04:56 Fa1nT wrote: Should have sent 1 marine to wipe out 12 of Hyper's SCV's, totally worked for Tester. Jeez, do you have any game sense at all? 1 marine can't even kill 2 out of those 12 SCVs. | ||
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JinDesu
United States3990 Posts
On September 21 2010 05:19 hydraden wrote: Jeez, do you have any game sense at all? 1 marine can't even kill 2 out of those 12 SCVs. I imagine he was joking. | ||
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chuky500
France473 Posts
The whole game depended on how hyperdub scouted so I guess it doesn't suck as much now I think about it. | ||
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JinDesu
United States3990 Posts
On September 21 2010 05:22 chuky500 wrote: It sucks that it looked so much like cheese but to be honest TLO would also have lost if the 2 early barracks were in Hyperdub's base because he took time to find the right base. I'm not sure but I think he would have lost to the 2 reapers too. If the barracks weren't proxied it wouldn't really be cheese (just like 2 gate compared to proxy 2 gate). The whole game depended on how hyperdub scouted so I guess it doesn't suck as much now I think about it. Except having 2 barracks in your base means you'll have 5 rines at his base when his 5th one gets out - or even a hellion. It is a cheese strat, the 2 proxy rax, but it isn't a BAD strat when used in this way. He wants to win, he needs to win, so he does what he thinks is best to win. Good player. | ||
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Seze
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Teton
France1656 Posts
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tilduh
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Energin
Canada89 Posts
On September 20 2010 21:24 Philosophy wrote: At least Tester will crush Hyperdub in every way possible.... Dude, don't hope for that, if someone puts out your favorite player, hope they win the whole thing to help make your favorite look better. I'm not going to respect hyperdub for the way he won whatsoever, but I hope he wins the whole thing so that TLO's seeding is higher for next season. | ||
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Flyingdutchman
Netherlands858 Posts
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Dionyseus
United States2068 Posts
Clide is playing HongUnPrime and I think Clide should win that and we'll likely see ogsEnsnare vs Clide which should be awesome. | ||
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fantomex
United States313 Posts
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tellit
Canada53 Posts
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