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GoDannY
Germany442 Posts
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piegasm
United States266 Posts
I really think IdrA needs to adapt his playstyle a little to be a bit more aggressive. Nibble at the enemy here and there to try and whittle his army down whenever possible. This is of course easier said than done, Zerg don't have any decent "harrass and retreat" units other than the Mutas which are pretty fragile for 100/100 cost. I feel like IdrA plays not to lose instead of going for wins. There was one match in the IEM Cologne where he went surprisingly agressive against Tarson and totally roflstomped him. He needs to do more of that. It wouldn't need to be every game but doing it here and there would force opponents to consider the possibility. The thing that made Michael Jordan so dangerous was that he could drive the ball OR shoot from range AND had a great fade away. No matter how you defended him, he could still beat you. IdrA has the reputation of being a one trick pony. | ||
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Ascorius
Norway275 Posts
On September 15 2010 22:13 The_DjiN wrote: Going broodlords was surely a mistake. he could have 3 or 4 ultralisks for nearly the same cost, which would have helped out against those forcefields alot. Also missing the hidden expo was just a big blunder. Not really, he already had spiretech and corruptors out. Broodlords was a much better choice in that situation. The ultras would have taken forever to get also.... stop with the "if he had that unit at that point he would have dont much better" logic. Look at the big picture. Ultras would have taken too much time, and would have cost him more. @Piegasm: I wouldnt call IdrA a one trick pony. He plays solid macro yes. But he will always attack when he has an opening. The game versus Tarson is a good example, the first game in the series today is also a good example. And he has the reputation of never cheesing or going all in. But thats not being a one trick pony. If that was the case you could call most BW pro's for one trick ponies. | ||
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Cheerio
Ukraine3178 Posts
On September 15 2010 22:34 klauz619 wrote: Hydras don't lose half their dps if you do 45 damage to them(unlike 2 marines). in a mass hydra vs mass marine fight hydras will die nearly as fast as marines so your point only stands for 2 marines vs 1 hydra fight, who cares about it anyway? | ||
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FuryX
Australia495 Posts
 .best of luck for the next season, i am sure he took some down notes on his lack of scouting via o/l placement. as a zerg player i really wanted him to get through! 4 zerg left, i check/cool for the swarm now! regarding imba comments..i think the ff/colossus move was pretty effective and buying time for protoss and at the same time allowing him to pick units off, and it is also quicker to get this combo over trying to get 2-3 ultra to deal with ff. His choice of broodlords wasn't terrible tbh, it actually pushed/wiped the protoss army out, but because of the hidden expo/gas, he was able to recover/get voidrays out, and this allowed the protoss to hit back before idra could get his army back up.. also the sf4 announcer was great! eeeedra!!! | ||
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Philosophy
186 Posts
On September 15 2010 22:34 klauz619 wrote: Hydras don't lose half their dps if you do 45 damage to them(unlike 2 marines). Hydras lose all their dps if you do 80 damage (unlike 2 marines). | ||
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Cheerio
Ukraine3178 Posts
On September 15 2010 22:54 GoDannY wrote: only 1 Zerg won his PvT I lost you there | ||
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st3roids
Greece538 Posts
so aparently making a mistake as a zerg will cost a game. Watch the toss or terran players they do x10 more mistakes than the zerg ones but they dont get punished or the lack of creativity - every terran massing mmm how innovating so far ;p - Just because u forget in the heat of the battle to scout a base or cause u got a lucky snap in the muta den doesnt mean that zerg should loose the game . Is like telling me som1 snipe a single baracks and terran lost the game cause of that. How many times protoss or terrna players dont scout a zerg expansion - do they loose cause of that ? hardly ever Try play zerg b4 u start the bs no race should get punished like that for a single mistake. Thing is zerg lacking badly and getting cheese so easy vs air proxies ,thats why they getting owned not becaue of a misscouting or a 20 sec delayed expansion or any other lame excusse u try to make to justify an easy toss or terran win. | ||
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onefreeman26
Germany8 Posts
talk about the actual games played i would say xD | ||
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GoDannY
Germany442 Posts
Awww typo :-( However I intended not to imply any imbalance or something, just an observation that Zerg actually has less huge names like for instance Terran. | ||
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st3roids
Greece538 Posts
same is here imbalances are the helping referee and zerg dont get any | ||
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UberThing
Great Britain410 Posts
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Ascorius
Norway275 Posts
On September 15 2010 23:04 GoDannY wrote: Awww typo :-( However I intended not to imply any imbalance or something, just an observation that Zerg actually has less huge names like for instance Terran. In general or in the tournie? IdrA, Cool, Check, Junwi, TheWind, Losira. All ex pro BW or WC3 players. I dont think T has that many big names even if they are over represented. Didnt really count so I cant be sure though :p | ||
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klauz619
453 Posts
Hydras lose all their dps if you do 80 damage (unlike 2 marines). Don't change targets when your enemy is at 10% hp? | ||
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theSAiNT
United States726 Posts
Sad to see another Zerg fall but the Protoss took a gamble that game and it paid off. Maka's games on the other hand. Nothing to say that hasn't been said. 'That's why they're nerfing reapers. LOLOLOL' | ||
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Dionyseus
United States2068 Posts
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0neder
United States3733 Posts
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
- blaming imbalance about idra's loss : i won't even talk about that, I just feel sorry for people doing it. - blaming imbalance for first maka win : same thing. People are sayigng "he lost his gold and made mistakes but only one mistake from the zerg and it's gg §§§" Not, he didn't lost his gold. The z put his gold in red health then leaved. Too bad, those imba terrans can repear their buildings So 1mn after this expansion was "destroyed", it was up and running again. That was a critical mistake. On mitsakes, what were exactly the majors terran's mistakes ? Losing some minor battles and taking a lot of z units in the process ? Perhaps going from 20+ to 4 mutas while not looking was a much bigger mistake ? Ho noes that was imbalance, right. Then losing all those roaches killing 2 marines was imbalance too. There is imbalance in sc2, but this TvZ is not displaying any. - blaming imbalance on game 2 now. There obviously is, as blizzard will nerf reapers. But the Z made 5 roachs then stoped. Perhaps he was too busy making his expansion over and over again with absolutly no chance of securing it. Yeah, he could have made a second queen to spread creep toward his nat so he can at least fight on creep. But no, reapers are so imba than they'll make people becoming stupid. Perhaps he could have made more than 5 roaches whole game and wait for more creep and roach speed to expand. But no, it's so imbalanced that people lose their common sense. Better losing right now so I can expand right now, right. | ||
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Torrentsven
Sweden51 Posts
god damn IDRA IS STILL BEST PLAYER IDRA FIIIIIIIIIIGHTIIIIIIIIING but he could have scouted a bit better imo but thats easy to say now and for obersvers.... | ||
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st3roids
Greece538 Posts
Same with vray proxies. id like to see the same bs - aka he missed a scout or he didnt kill that unit and lost the game bs - when check and cool gets eliminated due to an air proxy or massing mm ,or somehting else lame. now imagine if zerg could mass roaches hydras in every single game from a wallin base and win tournaments , that would be something | ||
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