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Beider
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany198 Posts
September 16 2010 07:39 GMT
#1961
There are so many free ways to host the videos that paying for bandwidth is a moot point, they could just slap the videos up on youtube and it would barely cost them anything (they could even have tasteless/artosis do it after they are done streaming, doesn't take long at all).

And sure they might have to pay a bit to setup and get the english commentary but blizzard has been talking about wanting to build up a huge e-sports community so then why make the first major tournament a pay for view for people that are willing to chip out 20$ just for watching a few sc games.

Personally I am only interested in seeing the international players and with Idra out I currently only want to watch TLO, so won't bother paying for that. Luckily some people will keep uploading it on other sites so it is possible to watch the games.
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
September 16 2010 07:40 GMT
#1962
On September 16 2010 07:17 Half wrote:
Wow those games made me rage hard :/.

Hate it when the worse player wins for w/e reason, and I don't mean to diss Lotze, he is very good, but I really got the feeling that Idra played a stronger game throughout.


Wow your posts made me rage hard :/

Hate it when retards post for w/e reason, and I don't meant to diss you, you are obviously smart but I really got a feeling that overall you're just hit on the head.

User was warned for this post
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
September 16 2010 07:42 GMT
#1963
On September 16 2010 16:30 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2010 15:56 Chocobo wrote:
GOMtv really has the wrong idea about how to make money off this. Charging for subscriptions is extremely unpopular and won't get many customers, and restricting the videos just means a smaller audience.

They would get many thousands of views per game on Youtube, and grow their audience significantly. Advertising money is absolutely the way to go.

There's a reason why the NFL, NBA, professional bowling, and every other sport in the world doesn't charge subscribers to watch, and instead relies on advertising money... because that's how to increase popularity and get more and more viewers.

MMA is pay per view as well.

UFC video archives are 60 dollars for half a year of HQ videos.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
Woozyman
Profile Joined September 2010
19 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-16 17:29:01
September 16 2010 17:28 GMT
#1964
"I feel like IdrA plays not to lose instead of going for wins. There was one match in the IEM Cologne where he went surprisingly agressive against Tarson and totally roflstomped him. He needs to do more of that. It wouldn't need to be every game but doing it here and there would force opponents to consider the possibility. The thing that made Michael Jordan so dangerous was that he could drive the ball OR shoot from range AND had a great fade away. No matter how you defended him, he could still beat you. IdrA has the reputation of being a one trick pony. "


I totally agree, real champs play like their lives is on the line, it's do or die. Idra's known for his raging QQ, his personality shows he likes to control the game/the pace, he's got a big ego because he thinks he is a super mastermind. Even artosis and tasteless said on broadcast that Idra talks sc2 non-stop, it shows he likes to be a strategist. People relying too much on controlling issues (like strategist) forget that in any highly competitive event where both players are equally skills, it's the one who take risks and succeed that will win.

That's why we say sometimes the best defense is best offense. Offense generates creativity and innovation. Idra relies way too much on macro, and thinks all he needs is to get ready for everything and own them late them with macro.

IMO the weakness of pure control freaks and strategists is
lack of creativity, they are prepared for X and Y but fail to see that a certain "Z" exists. Champs playing aggressive, do or die attitude have this creative aspect adv and killer instinct to come up with such "Z" strategy.

The_DjiN
Profile Joined June 2008
Germany86 Posts
September 16 2010 17:49 GMT
#1965
On September 16 2010 16:40 KissBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2010 07:17 Half wrote:
Wow those games made me rage hard :/.

Hate it when the worse player wins for w/e reason, and I don't mean to diss Lotze, he is very good, but I really got the feeling that Idra played a stronger game throughout.


Wow your posts made me rage hard :/

Hate it when retards post for w/e reason, and I don't meant to diss you, you are obviously smart but I really got a feeling that overall you're just hit on the head.

User was warned for this post


One of my favorite requotes :D
fantomex
Profile Joined June 2009
United States313 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-16 18:48:40
September 16 2010 18:47 GMT
#1966
On September 16 2010 09:30 Bhaalgorn wrote:
What are you babbling about there not being HD replays?Sure they're up with a bit of delay but who cares.

http://sc2casts.com/event86-GSL


Thanks for making my point with thank link :p. But yeah, I was referring to re-casts with serious analysis of the games, not the live-casting. Again thats not a criticism, Artosis/Tasteless are trying to make it more exciting to watch, they aren't trying to put on a clinic.

No they were actually very entertaining and pretty high level. (re: Idra's games)

Entertaining, yes. High level? Sorry... no. A failed gate rush you've probably seen on ladder dozens of times, a proxy stargate leading to instant GG, and of course the now legendary epic-scout-fail. Idra didn't even look like the same player from IEM Cologne.
Replay or GTFO
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
September 16 2010 19:23 GMT
#1967
I don't know why people are so surprised Idra lost. He's a B-teamer in BW and it's crazy not to expect that there would be good Koreans waiting in the wings. Jaedong and Flash were no names once upon a time, too, and you never know if one of the Koreans in this tournament has the potential to be like them someday.
IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
September 16 2010 19:25 GMT
#1968
In other words, fantomex could probably beat Idra.

Sorry to see the Zergs fall but their time shall come. Pulling for TLO now. Let's go Dario!
Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
chamileg
Profile Joined September 2010
2 Posts
September 16 2010 19:55 GMT
#1969
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ChoboCop
Profile Joined July 2004
United States954 Posts
September 16 2010 20:17 GMT
#1970
If $20 is too much for you to spend, but you go buy beer or cigarettes, or fast food etc... Don't act like you care that much about GSL...

And therefore if you don't care that much about GSL, please don't troll around complaining about the cost of GSL.

idrA really needs to scout better... I'm left in shock that the 'arguably best' player could be so stiff, static, and stagnant. This is really his Achilles heel and not a weakness that's hard to exploit. After all, Sun Tzu said that all warfare is based on deceit.
Critical thinking is the intellectually disciplined process of actively and skillfully conceptualizing, applying, analyzing, synthesizing, and/or evaluating information gathered.
fantomex
Profile Joined June 2009
United States313 Posts
September 16 2010 21:11 GMT
#1971
On September 17 2010 04:25 IPA wrote:
In other words, fantomex could probably beat Idra.

Definitely not. When you think about it, its ridiculous that Idra almost won that game even without scouting that base. He is a beast, you just wouldn't know it from watching GSL.
Replay or GTFO
Rabbet
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada404 Posts
September 17 2010 05:12 GMT
#1972
I still can't believe that Artosis qualified.
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