• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 16:28
CEST 22:28
KST 05:28
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors14[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists19[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers22Maestros of the Game 2 announced92026 GSL Tour plans announced15Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid25
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists MaNa leaves Team Liquid Maestros of the Game 2 announced 2026 GSL Tour plans announced Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool
Tourneys
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament INu's Battles#14 <BO.9 2Matches> GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 523 Firewall Mutation # 522 Flip My Base Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ FlaSh: This Will Be My Final ASL【ASL S21 Ro.16】 Leta's ASL S21 Ro.16 review ASL21 General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro8 Day 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro16 Group D Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Dawn of War IV Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Diablo IV Nintendo Switch Thread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread 3D technology/software discussion European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Sexual Health Of Gamers
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2945 users

[GSL] Open S1 - Ro64 Day 2 - Page 60

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 58 59 60 61 62 88 Next
ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
September 06 2010 11:46 GMT
#1181
Tasteless is in EG? didn't know that.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-06 11:47:48
September 06 2010 11:46 GMT
#1182
On September 06 2010 20:40 diehilde wrote:
its really funny the level of play in korea is so bad atm. every go4sc2 cup has much higher level play from the quarterfinals on. I think 80% of top foreigners could easily qualify for GSL if they flew over there...


Well considering all of these players are pretty much amateurs, semi pros, Warcraft 3 progamers (different play style), or were amongst the worst Starcraft progamers, its not too surprising that these guys aren't particularly good. I think Zergbong even lost a Bo3 against a slumping Stork (takes a bad player to achieve manage this) in the old GOM Classic.

Just because they're Korean doesn't mean they're automatically good. The best foreigners will still play better than the most generic Korean gamers. Idra is clearly more than good enough to bash anyone under SC1 B team level and I am inclined to believe most of these people are below that level.
Shatter
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1401 Posts
September 06 2010 11:46 GMT
#1183
I know some of these round of 64 matches aren't the best. But a top 64 foreigner tournament would have even worse ro64 games probably.

There are quite a few other foreigners that could of qualified for GSL if they went to Korea but you can't compare foreigner tournaments/skills to Korean just based off Ro64.
telamascope
Profile Joined April 2010
United States310 Posts
September 06 2010 11:46 GMT
#1184
Stream is back up for me.
Pekkz
Profile Joined June 2009
Norway1505 Posts
September 06 2010 11:46 GMT
#1185
Artosis comment was too funny. "gonna be an akward interview if this guy wins, i dont know how many times i have bad mannerd this guy" . hahaha
Vokasak
Profile Joined July 2010
United States388 Posts
September 06 2010 11:47 GMT
#1186
Cute forcefield use. :D
Practical wisdom is the combination of moral will and moral skill
Abbeb
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia161 Posts
September 06 2010 11:47 GMT
#1187
Hey can anybody help me out please? Whats the URL that will give me the VLC links, I had it the other day but can't get it to work anymore.
dapierow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Serbia1316 Posts
September 06 2010 11:47 GMT
#1188
People really think, creep tumors and transfusing the queens would have saved Nestea from losing that game? The creep would have helped a little bit, but not significantly enough to put him in the lead... oh and yeah transfusing those 2 queens (If they had the energy, because both were just made, and also injected larva) would have stopped terran from moving those MM/tank Forces out...
Eat.Sleep.Starcraft 2
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
September 06 2010 11:47 GMT
#1189
great forcefield
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
September 06 2010 11:48 GMT
#1190
On September 06 2010 20:46 igotmyown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2010 20:41 cuppatea wrote:
On September 06 2010 20:29 Vokasak wrote:
On September 06 2010 20:25 ZapRoffo wrote:
On September 06 2010 20:24 Vokasak wrote:
On September 06 2010 20:22 ZapRoffo wrote:
On September 06 2010 20:22 Vokasak wrote:
On September 06 2010 20:20 Shikyo wrote:
On September 06 2010 20:18 Vokasak wrote:
And now he attacks to bring the thor drops back home. I hope Zerg forumgoers are taking notes. This is the way you handle agression on the highground above your natural, not by making "Serious Discussion" threads.

If losing nat hatchery twice = handling the aggression on the highground, well okay


It doesn't matter if he lost it twice. He took a lot of mech down with him, and he had the expansion to the North anyway. He did all the proper responses, as opposed to getting flustered and doing stoping stupid (Or outright ragequitting) the way most people on the ladder are doing.


Yeah and did you see how far behind he ended up?


How far behind was he? He had enough stuff to take out every unit in Terran's army and force the drop to come back. He was obviously just fine. It's not until Terran stopped trying to do cute little drops and do an actual push that any real damage was done to Nestea.


Umm, because he was so weakened from losing his natural hatch twice that he had way too few stuff to defend the push.


He wasn't weakened. He had the third. He was so not-weakened that he did an attack and killed every siege tank, marine, bunker, and turret that the terran player had at that point. Were we watching different games? Or is this Zerg selective attention syndrome?


He lost every unit he had in that desperation attack, which was easily held off despite the Terran having 2 thors and 2 medivacs on the other side of the map. After that the Terran just went and killed the natural anyway, while also dropping at the 3rd.

What you're essentially saying is "hey, Terran being able to attack a Zerg expansion with zero resistance from a cliff is no problem because the Zerg can just attack head-on into a fortified position and sacrifice his entire army to keep the expansion alive for an additional 30 seconds (after which point it will go down anyway)!"

Even most of the top Terran players will happily admit that cliffing stacks the matchup in their favour on LT, why do you refuse to accept that?


If zerg had healed his hatchery twice, he would have had enough time for the mutas to come out.


If you are injecting on time AND spreading creep like everyone is saying he needed to do, you don't have the energy to heal too.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
Vokasak
Profile Joined July 2010
United States388 Posts
September 06 2010 11:48 GMT
#1191
Really appricating the SimCity on the Toss player this game.
Practical wisdom is the combination of moral will and moral skill
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 06 2010 11:48 GMT
#1192
SO many sentries? I don't think I've ever seen anyone make this many sentries vs Zerg like this
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
September 06 2010 11:48 GMT
#1193
On September 06 2010 20:47 dapierow wrote:
People really think, creep tumors and transfusing the queens would have saved Nestea from losing that game? The creep would have helped a little bit, but not significantly enough to put him in the lead... oh and yeah transfusing those 2 queens (If they had the energy, because both were just made, and also injected larva) would have stopped terran from moving those MM/tank Forces out...


Eh, his baneling bust failed and was down in worker count and tech so the game was already over then.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
September 06 2010 11:49 GMT
#1194
he cancelled. cube effects mean cancel.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
sage_francis
Profile Joined December 2006
France1823 Posts
September 06 2010 11:49 GMT
#1195
On September 06 2010 20:48 ZapRoffo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2010 20:46 igotmyown wrote:
On September 06 2010 20:41 cuppatea wrote:
On September 06 2010 20:29 Vokasak wrote:
On September 06 2010 20:25 ZapRoffo wrote:
On September 06 2010 20:24 Vokasak wrote:
On September 06 2010 20:22 ZapRoffo wrote:
On September 06 2010 20:22 Vokasak wrote:
On September 06 2010 20:20 Shikyo wrote:
On September 06 2010 20:18 Vokasak wrote:
And now he attacks to bring the thor drops back home. I hope Zerg forumgoers are taking notes. This is the way you handle agression on the highground above your natural, not by making "Serious Discussion" threads.

If losing nat hatchery twice = handling the aggression on the highground, well okay


It doesn't matter if he lost it twice. He took a lot of mech down with him, and he had the expansion to the North anyway. He did all the proper responses, as opposed to getting flustered and doing stoping stupid (Or outright ragequitting) the way most people on the ladder are doing.


Yeah and did you see how far behind he ended up?


How far behind was he? He had enough stuff to take out every unit in Terran's army and force the drop to come back. He was obviously just fine. It's not until Terran stopped trying to do cute little drops and do an actual push that any real damage was done to Nestea.


Umm, because he was so weakened from losing his natural hatch twice that he had way too few stuff to defend the push.


He wasn't weakened. He had the third. He was so not-weakened that he did an attack and killed every siege tank, marine, bunker, and turret that the terran player had at that point. Were we watching different games? Or is this Zerg selective attention syndrome?


He lost every unit he had in that desperation attack, which was easily held off despite the Terran having 2 thors and 2 medivacs on the other side of the map. After that the Terran just went and killed the natural anyway, while also dropping at the 3rd.

What you're essentially saying is "hey, Terran being able to attack a Zerg expansion with zero resistance from a cliff is no problem because the Zerg can just attack head-on into a fortified position and sacrifice his entire army to keep the expansion alive for an additional 30 seconds (after which point it will go down anyway)!"

Even most of the top Terran players will happily admit that cliffing stacks the matchup in their favour on LT, why do you refuse to accept that?


If zerg had healed his hatchery twice, he would have had enough time for the mutas to come out.


If you are injecting on time AND spreading creep like everyone is saying he needed to do, you don't have the energy to heal too.


Just make extra queen(s)
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
September 06 2010 11:50 GMT
#1196
I just want to add for all the people talking about ZvT balance in that series.
Consider that IdrA thumbs down Lost Temple. He'd rather play on Desert Oasis....
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
mrblue182
Profile Joined April 2010
United States151 Posts
September 06 2010 11:50 GMT
#1197
On September 06 2010 20:49 Telcontar wrote:
he cancelled. cube effects mean cancel.


Is there any visual for the other races?
Grantler
Profile Joined August 2010
United States228 Posts
September 06 2010 11:50 GMT
#1198
Idra is on EG? Seems like a major step down for him.
diehilde
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany1596 Posts
September 06 2010 11:50 GMT
#1199
On September 06 2010 20:46 Shatter wrote:
I know some of these round of 64 matches aren't the best. But a top 64 foreigner tournament would have even worse ro64 games probably.

There are quite a few other foreigners that could of qualified for GSL if they went to Korea but you can't compare foreigner tournaments/skills to Korean just based off Ro64.

seriously i dont think so. I honestly think a top foreigner tournament would have a stronger ro64.
Savior: "I will cheat everyone again in SC2!" - SCII Beta Tester
Vokasak
Profile Joined July 2010
United States388 Posts
September 06 2010 11:50 GMT
#1200
Hallucinate! How exotic.
Practical wisdom is the combination of moral will and moral skill
Prev 1 58 59 60 61 62 88 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Monday Night Weeklies
16:00
#49
Solar vs ByuNLIVE!
Classic vs TBD
RotterdaM1058
TKL 458
IndyStarCraft 276
SteadfastSC254
BRAT_OK 120
EnkiAlexander 33
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 1058
TKL 458
IndyStarCraft 276
SteadfastSC 254
BRAT_OK 120
JuggernautJason61
StarCraft: Brood War
910 19
HiyA 16
NaDa 9
Dota 2
capcasts186
Counter-Strike
pashabiceps2943
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King61
PPMD37
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu379
Khaldor210
Other Games
summit1g6599
Grubby6426
C9.Mang0239
mouzStarbuck239
Sick216
KnowMe198
Pyrionflax122
UpATreeSC80
Trikslyr56
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream350
Other Games
BasetradeTV230
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 21 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• kabyraGe 234
• Hupsaiya 25
• Adnapsc2 10
• Reevou 1
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• 80smullet 23
• FirePhoenix16
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV875
Other Games
• imaqtpie1636
• Scarra536
• Shiphtur216
• tFFMrPink 10
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
3h 32m
Replay Cast
12h 32m
Afreeca Starleague
13h 32m
Leta vs YSC
GSL
1d 13h
Rogue vs Percival
Zoun vs Solar
Replay Cast
2 days
GSL
2 days
Cure vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs Bunny
The PondCast
2 days
KCM Race Survival
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
Escore
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
IPSL
4 days
Ret vs Art_Of_Turtle
Radley vs TBD
BSL
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
BSL
5 days
IPSL
5 days
eOnzErG vs TBD
G5 vs Nesh
Replay Cast
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Jaedong vs Light
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W4
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W5
KK 2v2 League Season 1
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.