On August 29 2010 01:38 BondGamer wrote:
It is totally ridiculous that one unit can win the game. Slush was in complete control until 1 void ray destroys 2 bases.

Slush can only blame himself for that man, he had 2 bases and only 1 queen. He just overreacted to the 2 gate.

Colbi

United States535 Posts

August 28 2010 16:39 GMT

#482

We uploaded a few more video interviews with the EG players talking about their matches:

http://www.myeg.net/media/listing_videos.php (all videos are labeled with MLG Raleigh)

Shikyo

Finland33997 Posts

August 28 2010 16:39 GMT

#483

On August 29 2010 01:37 licarn wrote:
Now Zerg know how Protoss felt in ESL

Well that... was more like Protoss knowing how Zerg always feels. #1 Zerg on the European SC2 servers, #14? ...

I'm not even sure what Zerg can do to stop Void rays. Void Ray just goes into his base and charges at a random building. Zerg needs like 3:1Queen ratio right then or a million Hydras(that suck at everything else) to defend vs them... Then there's ZvT and <_>

Hatorade

299 Posts

August 28 2010 16:39 GMT

#484

Why are people complaining about TTOne "all inning" when Slush pretty much did the same thing and only used his 2nd hatch for units and didnt tech? Seems like it was pretty much a 2 hatch baneling bust and people are blaming TTOne for going voidrays?

raga4ka

Bulgaria5679 Posts

August 28 2010 16:39 GMT

#485

On August 29 2010 01:38 Cranberries wrote:

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2 Queens and 1 Transfuse beats 2 non-charged Void Rays. If you let the Void Ray charge, you're doing something wrong.

And what if the void rays charge on their own stargate . What is the zerg doing wrong then ?

DarkspearTribe

568 Posts

August 28 2010 16:39 GMT

#486

I'm on the horse.

SeaSmoke

United States326 Posts

August 28 2010 16:40 GMT

#487

On August 29 2010 01:38 Cranberries wrote:

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2 Queens and 1 Transfuse beats 2 non-charged Void Rays. If you let the Void Ray charge, you're doing something wrong.

If you have energy for transfuse, you're doing something wrong?

Shifft

Canada1085 Posts

August 28 2010 16:40 GMT

#488

Seriously, if he had made a second queen he would have been fine. Slush got outplayed that game.

DeltruS

Canada2214 Posts

August 28 2010 16:40 GMT

#489

Fast tech to hydras is what I do when my oppononent goes 2gate into fast stalkers. I am not sure if slush could have done it but hydra would hve been very good in his situation.

Telcontar

United Kingdom16710 Posts

August 28 2010 16:40 GMT

#490

On August 29 2010 01:37 JimSocks wrote:
switch hydras and roaches would fix it

you do know that hydras own all t1, t1.5 gateway units along with void rays and phoenixes right? so as protoss, either tech to colossi or die?

Brad

2754 Posts

August 28 2010 16:40 GMT

#491

SeleCT vs. qxc - 2-0

Woyn

United Kingdom1628 Posts

August 28 2010 16:40 GMT

#492

SelecT 2 - 0'd qxc

Nokeboy

United States1009 Posts

August 28 2010 16:40 GMT

#493

He only had 1 queen when the first void ray hit, and that was pretty much when he lost the game.

Craton

United States17288 Posts

August 28 2010 16:40 GMT

#494

On August 29 2010 01:35 Gescom wrote:

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How was his build this game remotely all-in?

'cause if the VRs got repelled it was game over.

HolydaKing

21254 Posts

August 28 2010 16:40 GMT

#495

Hell yeah GO SeleCt!!!

Grantler

United States228 Posts

August 28 2010 16:41 GMT

#496

On August 29 2010 01:37 lulzury wrote:
Funny how zerg has NOTHING to defend vs. fully charged voidrays.

Not sure if zerg have anything to defend against anything

Cranberries

Wales567 Posts

August 28 2010 16:41 GMT

#497

The only "macro" orientated Protoss players I know are Whitera and Tester. I was speaking with Whitera the other day after he double expanded in PvP and he said he prefers macro because "it tests your ability to control more than 1 group of units."

Totally true - that's why IEM had such awesome calibre. Dimaga having 4 different control groups to flank, fungle growth, and rip through entrenched Terran positions was just magical and incredibly awesome.

Logo

United States7542 Posts

August 28 2010 16:41 GMT

#498

2 gate fake is grrraaaahhhhhhh. I hate facing it on the ladder. More protoss players should realize that just throwing down 2 gates and chronoboosting your first zealot can deny a Zerg his expansion.

Sad to see Slush out, but glad to see Protoss players doing well in a tournament.

cyclone25

Romania3344 Posts

August 28 2010 16:41 GMT

#499

On August 29 2010 01:37 ChThoniC wrote:

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Maybe if they invited more than 3 Zergs out of their... 32 invites? Ridiculous.

What other zergs are better than Slush or Machine in USA? Players were invited by skill and not by race.

Stratos_speAr

United States6959 Posts

August 28 2010 16:41 GMT

#500

On August 29 2010 01:39 OneFierceZealot wrote:

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yeah man we zergs just love to not spawn larvae and save up 50 energy for the possible voidray

Build more than one Queen.

Problem solved.

The only reasons Slush lost that is he failed to 1) scout with an Overlord at all (which he was easily in the place to do) and 2) he refused to build a 2nd Queen when he was on two bases when he didn't scout and wasn't even getting a Lair or Evolution Chamber. Why take that kind of risk when you know what can happen?