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On August 29 2010 00:54 Darpa wrote:
lol lastshadows army was over double the size of slushes, but that said, Im a terran player and I cant wait until the reaper nerf, because im tired of seeing that opening. Sad face for slush tho, my favorite zerg.
ITS PROBABLY BECAUSE MARA BEAT EVERY GROUND ARMY, SO SLUSH LOST HIS ENTIRE FUCKING ARMY 3 TIMES, AND COULDNT MAKE DRONES CAUSE OF REAPER PRESSURE
god damn. I'm mad. Sorry.
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On August 29 2010 00:56 JWD wrote:Kind of painful to hear LastShadow called a "top top tier player" 
Day9 and JP said it, it has to be true
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On August 29 2010 00:53 Pekkz wrote:
Fucking terran, going all in with workers is not all in for terran. Two orbital commands is like 15 workers.
Yeah, we saw the same in IEM.
The sad thing is, SVCs were already nerfed because of this, but the problem here is that the cost / reward especially against Zerg is always in T's favour. 10 SVCs on top of an army that Z already struggles to defeat just spells out doom. And even if Z ends up defending, it will only be barely and T can still bounce back relatively easy since Z has no way to attack him back.
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On August 29 2010 00:57 Nokeboy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 00:56 JWD wrote:Kind of painful to hear LastShadow called a "top top tier player" Day9 and JP said it, it has to be true
Never going to get tired of beating that strawman, are you?
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On August 29 2010 00:53 Stratos_speAr wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 00:50 iRRelevance wrote:
Why would you sacrifice all your drones when mutas are on the way and the terran has no ani-air in his push. Just sack that expansion and save the drones. Uh because if he didn't they would've rolled through and destroyed his entire base? the Drones fighting gave him a few seconds to save the Lair and other tech structures. If he hadn't fought with Drones, the Lair would've died and it would have been GG.
He needed to mass spine crawlers above his main ramp and fake that he was trying to save his natural and try to gain time... what he did really wasn't a good thing to do. Also his Roaches needed to focus the Marauders, he was just a-moving which makes him auto-target workers. Was just poor play.
Although mules are just absolutely ridiculous, Terran can support like 4 barracks off 2 bases with 0 workers on minerals because of them.
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On August 29 2010 00:55 JWD wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 00:53 Stratos_speAr wrote:On August 29 2010 00:50 iRRelevance wrote:
Why would you sacrifice all your drones when mutas are on the way and the terran has no ani-air in his push. Just sack that expansion and save the drones. Uh because if he didn't they would've rolled through and destroyed his entire base? the Drones fighting gave him a few seconds to save the Lair and other tech structures. If he hadn't fought with Drones, the Lair would've died and it would have been GG. I don't think so. He could have pulled all his drones into his main and stalled for a few seconds until muta. Sac the nat and then fight with all mutas, roaches, and lings together at the top of the ramp. In that case I think Slush would have come out ahead.
How? Zerglings need a surround to do anything and the Roaches were going to be destroyed no matter what, if Slush pulled back the T could literally just A-move his way up the ramp with even less resistance because the Speedlings would've done less damage and the rest of the bio army would have even more time and health to take things out while the Mutalisks tried to clean it up.
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On August 29 2010 00:56 Crazypyro1 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 00:54 Darpa wrote:
lol lastshadows army was over double the size of slushes, but that said, Im a terran player and I cant wait until the reaper nerf, because im tired of seeing that opening. Sad face for slush tho, my favorite zerg. god damn. I'm mad. Sorry.
dude...cut the caps.
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Sure is shitters dissing on LastShadow. He won, he played better. End of.
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Cauthon over Drewbie, 2-0. Start cheerin' for Huk, Canada!
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On August 29 2010 00:55 Redmark wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 00:53 Pekkz wrote:
Fucking terran, going all in with workers is not all in for terran. Two orbital commands is like 15 workers. How is it not all in lol? He kind of killed all of Slush's drones, that's why he won. Yes, Terran beats the other races when neither has any workers. The races are different, if you want to complain complain about the push actually working.
How times have changed. In SCBW, killing workers were like hitting a jackpot. Nowadays, terrans can instantly bolster their army by bringing in a ton of scvs. Im not talking about balance just how mules changed an integral part of starcraft.
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+ Show Spoiler +slush is gone=( no more zerg, gonna play some sc2 myself now then- tvt and pvp are insanely boring and tvp isn't that iinteresting if you don't play either p or t
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On August 29 2010 00:56 JWD wrote:Kind of painful to hear LastShadow called a "top top tier player"
He's been a rigger and a cheater etc. but he's always been a really good player. Maybe not top top but still very close.
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All these "tip top" Terran players:
-Drewbie
-QXC
-LastShadow
-LZGamer
-Painuser
Clearly on the same level as:
-Dimaga
-Whitera
-IdrA
I think there's a pretty legitimate reason all there are more "tip top" Terran players than Protoss/Zerg players .. It's because the Terran race is easier.
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SjoW vs. SeleCT
TTOne vs. Socke
Coming up.
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On August 29 2010 00:55 JWD wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 00:53 Stratos_speAr wrote:On August 29 2010 00:50 iRRelevance wrote:
Why would you sacrifice all your drones when mutas are on the way and the terran has no ani-air in his push. Just sack that expansion and save the drones. Uh because if he didn't they would've rolled through and destroyed his entire base? the Drones fighting gave him a few seconds to save the Lair and other tech structures. If he hadn't fought with Drones, the Lair would've died and it would have been GG. I don't think so. He could have pulled all his drones into his main and stalled for a few seconds until muta. Sac the nat and then fight with all mutas, roaches, and lings together at the top of the ramp. In that case I think Slush would have come out ahead.
I agree, but if I was Lastshadow, I would just take the free natural and pull back without comitting to the attack. Sure my income would suffer because of the lack SVCs mining, but I'd take a free natural from Zerg anyday over it. Especially since I wouldn't be losing any SVCs.
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weird, couldn't get the stream to work on firefox but it immediately worked on IE, looking forward to seeing some good games!
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Looks like Nadagast finally got taken out of winners by Kiwikaki.
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<_< Slush is in the losers' bracket. He can still do it.
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On August 29 2010 00:57 Jyvblamo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2010 00:57 Nokeboy wrote:On August 29 2010 00:56 JWD wrote:Kind of painful to hear LastShadow called a "top top tier player" Day9 and JP said it, it has to be true Never going to get tired of beating that strawman, are you?
Happened in multiple threads multiple times before, he's just like FireGuyX imo. Who btw just got banned for this.
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On August 29 2010 00:56 JWD wrote:Kind of painful to hear LastShadow called a "top top tier player"
He's definitely top tier in SC2. Not the same tier as IdrA/Morrow/Dimaga obviously, but definitely up there with EG and Root guys.
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