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JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
August 28 2010 16:00 GMT
#221
On August 29 2010 00:58 Brad wrote:
SjoW vs. SeleCT
TTOne vs. Socke

Coming up.

Thanks a lot for these great LR threads man.
✌
jtbem
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada1404 Posts
August 28 2010 16:00 GMT
#222
kiwikaki > nadagast 2-1
aka Sowelulol
nekuodah
Profile Joined August 2010
England2409 Posts
August 28 2010 16:00 GMT
#223
Yes Kiwikaki, protoss represent.
Nokeboy
Profile Joined December 2008
United States1009 Posts
August 28 2010 16:00 GMT
#224
On August 29 2010 00:59 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 00:57 Jyvblamo wrote:
On August 29 2010 00:57 Nokeboy wrote:
On August 29 2010 00:56 JWD wrote:
Kind of painful to hear LastShadow called a "top top tier player"

Day9 and JP said it, it has to be true

Never going to get tired of beating that strawman, are you?

Happened in multiple threads multiple times before, he's just like FireGuyX imo. Who btw just got banned for this.

Funny how you did the same in past threads but because I don't have 6000 posts I am not as cool
theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2856 Posts
August 28 2010 16:00 GMT
#225
On August 29 2010 00:58 gillon wrote:
Sure is shitters dissing on LastShadow. He won, he played better. End of.


Haha, yes, he didn't win because his macro mechanic allows stacking or because he doesn't need workers to continue playing the game

Terran apologists boggle the mind
ChThoniC
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States536 Posts
August 28 2010 16:00 GMT
#226
On August 29 2010 00:58 Cranberries wrote:
All these "tip top" Terran players:

-Drewbie
-QXC
-LastShadow
-LZGamer
-Painuser

Clearly on the same level as:

-Dimaga
-Whitera
-IdrA

I think there's a pretty legitimate reason all there are more "tip top" Terran players than Protoss/Zerg players .. It's because the Terran race is easier.


That's not a very good list of tip-top Terrans, unless you're pulling them from only this tournament.
i c u
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
August 28 2010 16:01 GMT
#227
On August 29 2010 01:00 Sadistx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 00:56 JWD wrote:
Kind of painful to hear LastShadow called a "top top tier player"


He's definitely top tier in SC2. Not the same tier as IdrA/Morrow/Dimaga obviously, but definitely up there with EG and Root guys.

You're probably right. I'm not a fan of LS is all
✌
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
August 28 2010 16:01 GMT
#228
On August 29 2010 00:55 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Being better at something with absolutely no drawback to it in any way isn't really "different", it's just poor design.

The drawback doesn't have to be in the mules, but in the other facets of the race. Of course, it could be in the mules, if they really are too good, but you can't just say that mules are good and so they should be nerfed. By that logic, if you have a race that's good at macro but has weak units, and a race that's bad at macro but has strong units, you'd make them all the same.
I'm not saying that mules are necessarily fine, but that you can't just say that they're not okay just because they do something that the other races can't.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
August 28 2010 16:01 GMT
#229
On August 29 2010 00:57 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 00:53 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On August 29 2010 00:50 iRRelevance wrote:
Why would you sacrifice all your drones when mutas are on the way and the terran has no ani-air in his push. Just sack that expansion and save the drones.


Uh because if he didn't they would've rolled through and destroyed his entire base? the Drones fighting gave him a few seconds to save the Lair and other tech structures. If he hadn't fought with Drones, the Lair would've died and it would have been GG.

He needed to mass spine crawlers above his main ramp and fake that he was trying to save his natural and try to gain time... what he did really wasn't a good thing to do. Also his Roaches needed to focus the Marauders, he was just a-moving which makes him auto-target workers. Was just poor play.

Although mules are just absolutely ridiculous, Terran can support like 4 barracks off 2 bases with 0 workers on minerals because of them.


I was actually thinking of this just as the T's army was scouted, "He's going to lose and people are going to say he should've built Spine Crawlers".

Spine Crawlers take forever and a damn day to build. You cannot build Spine Crawlers when you see an incoming attack - you NEED to build them ahead of time or else they'll just die while morphing because of the completely ridiculous build time. It wouldn't have helped much, if at all, maybe delaying for a second or two.

And what delaying could Slush have done? You literally just A-move up the damn ramp. There was no delaying that army could have done.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
wuddersup
Profile Joined July 2010
United States228 Posts
August 28 2010 16:01 GMT
#230
Why do marauders and reapers both do insane damage to buildings, while Zerg and Protoss have no equivalent?
Jukebox Joe
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom358 Posts
August 28 2010 16:02 GMT
#231
Have we seen a KiwiKaK game yet? He looks to be playing brilliant.
BigBadSkathe
Profile Joined September 2009
United States234 Posts
August 28 2010 16:02 GMT
#232
On August 29 2010 00:58 Cranberries wrote:
All these "tip top" Terran players:

-Drewbie
-QXC
-LastShadow
-LZGamer
-Painuser

Clearly on the same level as:

-Dimaga
-Whitera
-IdrA

I think there's a pretty legitimate reason all there are more "tip top" Terran players than Protoss/Zerg players .. It's because the Terran race is easier.


None of those Zergs were in the tournament if that's what you're trying to say. The fact is there were far less Zerg players entering the tournament and it stands to reason that there would be far less left to this point.

This thread is devolving into a Zerg whinefest pretty fast which is sad, theres a million threads on the SC2 forum for this do we really need another one here?
Hey.
Crissaegrim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
2947 Posts
August 28 2010 16:02 GMT
#233
On August 29 2010 01:00 Sadistx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 00:56 JWD wrote:
Kind of painful to hear LastShadow called a "top top tier player"


He's definitely top tier in SC2. Not the same tier as IdrA/Morrow/Dimaga obviously, but definitely up there with EG and Root guys.


Haha, thats "debatable". Need to see more games by him though.

On August 29 2010 00:59 Jyvblamo wrote:
Looks like Nadagast finally got taken out of winners by Kiwikaki.


Yay, good news, as we've yet to see Kiwi play.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 28 2010 16:02 GMT
#234
On August 29 2010 01:00 Nokeboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 00:59 Shikyo wrote:
On August 29 2010 00:57 Jyvblamo wrote:
On August 29 2010 00:57 Nokeboy wrote:
On August 29 2010 00:56 JWD wrote:
Kind of painful to hear LastShadow called a "top top tier player"

Day9 and JP said it, it has to be true

Never going to get tired of beating that strawman, are you?

Happened in multiple threads multiple times before, he's just like FireGuyX imo. Who btw just got banned for this.

Funny how you did the same in past threads but because I don't have 6000 posts I am not as cool

As if that matters in the slightest.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
TymerA
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands759 Posts
August 28 2010 16:02 GMT
#235
'' keep your hands of my momma, keep your hands of my doritos''
nice.
DarkspearTribe
Profile Joined August 2010
568 Posts
August 28 2010 16:03 GMT
#236
Day9 and Husky O.O!!??
RaptorZ
Profile Joined August 2010
United States155 Posts
August 28 2010 16:03 GMT
#237
OMG Day9 and Husky!
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 16:03:30
August 28 2010 16:03 GMT
#238
WHOA WHAT IS THISSSS?!

This will be interesting =D
HeIios
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2523 Posts
August 28 2010 16:03 GMT
#239
On August 29 2010 01:03 DarkspearTribe wrote:
Day9 and Husky O.O!!??


Hurray :D
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
August 28 2010 16:03 GMT
#240
On August 29 2010 01:01 Redmark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 00:55 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Being better at something with absolutely no drawback to it in any way isn't really "different", it's just poor design.

The drawback doesn't have to be in the mules, but in the other facets of the race. Of course, it could be in the mules, if they really are too good, but you can't just say that mules are good and so they should be nerfed. By that logic, if you have a race that's good at macro but has weak units, and a race that's bad at macro but has strong units, you'd make them all the same.
I'm not saying that mules are necessarily fine, but that you can't just say that they're not okay just because they do something that the other races can't.


That's what I'm saying. What other weaknesses does the Terran race have to make up for this? Pretty much none.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
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