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banana
Profile Joined January 2009
Netherlands1189 Posts
August 28 2010 16:04 GMT
#261
What is this caster madne..... (Head explodes)
wristuzi
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1168 Posts
August 28 2010 16:04 GMT
#262
Can't believe slush lost! So sad to see all the zerg go And I missed the very end of the game too - but there was a drop?

OMG DAY9 & HUSKY <3
MarineKingPrime ¯\_(シ)_/¯ // Naniwa ¯\_(シ)_/¯ // Morrow
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
August 28 2010 16:04 GMT
#263
On August 29 2010 01:03 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 01:01 Redmark wrote:
On August 29 2010 00:55 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Being better at something with absolutely no drawback to it in any way isn't really "different", it's just poor design.

The drawback doesn't have to be in the mules, but in the other facets of the race. Of course, it could be in the mules, if they really are too good, but you can't just say that mules are good and so they should be nerfed. By that logic, if you have a race that's good at macro but has weak units, and a race that's bad at macro but has strong units, you'd make them all the same.
I'm not saying that mules are necessarily fine, but that you can't just say that they're not okay just because they do something that the other races can't.


That's what I'm saying. What other weaknesses does the Terran race have to make up for this? Pretty much none.

How are you complaining about Terran in every tournament thread, ever?

Real pity there are no zerg left though. I guess I'll be bored of TvP after this tournament, just like it was ZvT in the IEM. TvT was never fun in the first place (Gretorp v Silver an exception).
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 28 2010 16:04 GMT
#264
On August 29 2010 01:01 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 00:57 Shikyo wrote:
On August 29 2010 00:53 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On August 29 2010 00:50 iRRelevance wrote:
Why would you sacrifice all your drones when mutas are on the way and the terran has no ani-air in his push. Just sack that expansion and save the drones.


Uh because if he didn't they would've rolled through and destroyed his entire base? the Drones fighting gave him a few seconds to save the Lair and other tech structures. If he hadn't fought with Drones, the Lair would've died and it would have been GG.

He needed to mass spine crawlers above his main ramp and fake that he was trying to save his natural and try to gain time... what he did really wasn't a good thing to do. Also his Roaches needed to focus the Marauders, he was just a-moving which makes him auto-target workers. Was just poor play.

Although mules are just absolutely ridiculous, Terran can support like 4 barracks off 2 bases with 0 workers on minerals because of them.


I was actually thinking of this just as the T's army was scouted, "He's going to lose and people are going to say he should've built Spine Crawlers".

Spine Crawlers take forever and a damn day to build. You cannot build Spine Crawlers when you see an incoming attack - you NEED to build them ahead of time or else they'll just die while morphing because of the completely ridiculous build time. It wouldn't have helped much, if at all, maybe delaying for a second or two.

And what delaying could Slush have done? You literally just A-move up the damn ramp. There was no delaying that army could have done.

Well once he saw the army move out(if he did), he could have put the crawlers down and faked that he was going to get ready for an engagement at the natural, then pulled up to his nat. Lastshadow most likely would have taken the natural instead of recklessly rushing up, giving the crawlers enough time.

I agree though, I believe that Blizzard needs to reduce the Crawlers' build time. It was a critical part of SCBW that Zerg was able to reactively build sunkens as they saw the opponent leaving their base and manage to react in time. If they want to make Zerg the reactive race, they need to make at least this chance so that Zerg can react with crawlers.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
SentrySteve
Profile Joined March 2010
United States71 Posts
August 28 2010 16:05 GMT
#265
On August 29 2010 01:03 FuryX wrote:
no zerg....HDStarcraft left -.-


had headphones off, so no more HD? That would be awesome.
Daimai
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden762 Posts
August 28 2010 16:05 GMT
#266
Husky + Day9, holy crap. Both want to be in the spotlight, this wont end well.
To pray is to accept defeat.
Combine
Profile Joined July 2010
United States812 Posts
August 28 2010 16:05 GMT
#267
Day[9] and Husky screams at the same time. Oh god. This will be interesting :O
(ಥ_ಥ)
TymerA
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands759 Posts
August 28 2010 16:05 GMT
#268
On August 29 2010 01:04 JWD wrote:
all right, PvZ! Haven't seen this MU in a while

what? PvZ? where? :o
nice.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
August 28 2010 16:05 GMT
#269
Finally a goddamn PvZ!
Endorsed
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands1221 Posts
August 28 2010 16:05 GMT
#270
Haha this is going to be amusing.
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
August 28 2010 16:05 GMT
#271
On August 29 2010 01:04 x-Catalyst wrote:
Day9 and Husky? Something tells me this is a possibility for greatness.

Yeah if Husky keeps his mouth shut 99% of the time.
theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2856 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 16:06:08
August 28 2010 16:05 GMT
#272
On August 29 2010 01:04 Redmark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 01:03 Stratos_speAr wrote:
That's what I'm saying. What other weaknesses does the Terran race have to make up for this? Pretty much none.

Doesn't mean that you have to nerf mules though. There's a whole bunch of things that you could do to the races without taking away from their unique capabilities.


All anyone wants is for mules to have a goddamn cooldown so there's a penalty for forgetting. It's not that much of a nerf and prevents retarded shit like slush vs. atljs from happening
Daimai
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden762 Posts
August 28 2010 16:05 GMT
#273
On August 29 2010 01:05 SentrySteve wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 01:03 FuryX wrote:
no zerg....HDStarcraft left -.-


had headphones off, so no more HD? That would be awesome.


Wait what the hell? he actually left because of that?
To pray is to accept defeat.
nekuodah
Profile Joined August 2010
England2409 Posts
August 28 2010 16:05 GMT
#274
First PvZ on stream between good players? makes a change from terran games.
nicoaldo
Profile Joined March 2009
Argentina939 Posts
August 28 2010 16:05 GMT
#275
LastShadow vs Slush game 3 is totally recommended, amazing game!
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
August 28 2010 16:06 GMT
#276
On August 29 2010 01:04 thopol wrote:
I'm a hater that has been totally converted by MLG. This is a fucking sweet event.

yeah you've really got to respect that MLG did its research, pulling guys to cast/run the event who are well-regarded in the SC community. I really like this organization, happy to see them as a leader in US esports.
✌
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
August 28 2010 16:06 GMT
#277
Desert Oasis

gg -,-'
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
Endorsed
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands1221 Posts
August 28 2010 16:06 GMT
#278
LOL TROLL WTF
Brad
Profile Joined April 2010
2754 Posts
August 28 2010 16:06 GMT
#279
LOL!
Lee Jae Dong proved that a focus on mechanics and execution could solve problems in the StarCraft game strategy.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 16:08:13
August 28 2010 16:06 GMT
#280
On August 29 2010 01:04 Redmark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 01:03 Stratos_speAr wrote:
That's what I'm saying. What other weaknesses does the Terran race have to make up for this? Pretty much none.

Doesn't mean that you have to nerf mules though. There's a whole bunch of things that you could do to the races without taking away from their unique capabilities.


Oh I know that you don't need to nerf specifically MULE's, it's just another one of those slight advantages that T has that makes all the difference.

Does anyone know why Husky is there with Day[9]? I hope he isn't casting w/ Day...

How are you complaining about Terran in every tournament thread, ever?


I'm not? Stop making shit up.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
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