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On August 28 2010 13:23 Fodder03 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2010 13:21 Phiggot03 wrote:On August 28 2010 13:17 Fodder03 wrote:On August 28 2010 13:15 Phiggot03 wrote:
I was a 2600 mage on BG9, please don't compare wow to sc2. wow is a joke of a game. 2600 =/= high end arena. Yes, I know that -- high end arena is ~3000, maybe higher now. I played wow a long time, I still follow the arena scene today. Wow is a retarded game, you see the last tournament? Even the global champions from last year tried to run retarded comps they have never played before to try to beat the other team. In the end its what it comes down to, counter comping, its actually quite disgusting that people win so much money for playing this game. Theres skill in any game, especially a team game where you have to be coordinated. In the end wow is just a cash cow and blizzard does not really care about this game in the competitive scene. So u havent been "end game" in either sc2 or wow and yet you are an expert enough to judge which game requires more skill? 2600 mage... let me guess wizcleave, cause thats hard right?
Since when do you have to be high end in any game to comment? I've played both games and I can comment on it's difficulty. It seems like you've completely missed the point here or you're just oblivious. My point is wow is about which comp vs comp, did you miss that? Or you felt like supporting my arguement by saying something like "you're wizard cleave haha, must be hard right?" ya it was easy BECAUSE I was wiz cleave. Nice one bro.
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Counter-argument has sample size of zero.
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Go Sjow! So here's the mixed list of all winners by race/country from the upper and lower bracket (not included the losers from the upper bracket who are still in the game) : + Show Spoiler +Protoss (5): KiwiKaKi(CA), HuK(CA), Time(US), TTOne(CA), iNcontroL(US)
Terran (9): Nadagast(US), ajtls(US), qxc(US), CauthonLuck(US), drewbie(CA), avilo(US), SeleCt(US), ThisIsJimmy(US), Gretorp(US)
Zerg (2): SLush(CA), CatZ(US)
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On August 28 2010 13:27 Serpico wrote:
Are the gretorp games the ones that were long TvTs?
Yes. vs Silver.
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No, he is in the losers bracket. He can still win.
ah, thank you.
sleeping time now, 6 am here.
great tournament so far with many sick sick games.
looking forward to the afternoon.
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On August 28 2010 13:29 Serpico wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2010 13:28 Raji wrote:On August 28 2010 13:26 Iggyhopper wrote:
WoW players can transition to SC2. It doesn't mean they're in the same league. One camera angle vs. a whole map, army, or base?
No. I think Nadagast advancing and beating some good players proves you don't know what your talking about. He is obviously in the same league. sample size of one.
Masq is a big time wow nerd bro. Just not as known as nadagast.
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Where can I find the VoDs? (sry for noobishness -.-)
Yeah, I'm also wondering about this. If the VODs won't be available, will the replays be? Thanks
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You retards are comparing dicks and vaginas. Both are genitals but they do completely different things.
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On August 28 2010 13:28 Raji wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2010 13:26 Iggyhopper wrote:
WoW players can transition to SC2. It doesn't mean they're in the same league. One camera angle vs. a whole map, army, or base?
No. I think Nadagast advancing and beating some good players proves you don't know what your talking about. He is obviously in the same league. So he is good at StarCraft II? You still haven't changed anything with what you said.
All that matters is that he had to up his ante when he switched.
Anyway, this WoW talk is seriously retarded. Is IdrA on tomorrow?
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Gamers are gamers. This debate is pointless. I'm pretty sure WoW isn't the only game they have ever played.
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On August 28 2010 13:30 Rizzelet wrote:Yeah, I'm also wondering about this. If the VODs won't be available, will the replays be? Thanks
vods will most likely be up 3-5 days after the event, maybe you can find some earlier on youtube
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So how do we get replays/VODs to watch the games?
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On August 28 2010 13:30 hugedong wrote:
You retards are comparing dicks and vaginas. Both are genitals but they do completely different things.
should be on the first page
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On August 28 2010 13:17 Kralic wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2010 13:16 Foomnz wrote:
I just don't get how Day9 can look at the camera and say stuff like
"I love these creative rush infester plays!"
"zerg players should explore these creative play options!"
while the Zerg player who did it just got curb stomped in 15 mins by a Terran with 3 Thors
demolishing his base like paper....lol
If Catz didn't try to wait for 150 energy he could have taken out 20-30 scv's with 2 fungal growths (1 from each infestor) they were so clumped up before he maynarded them.
yeah he could have killed many more SCV's ..but that woulda just made the T push all in with the massive army he had anyway and still would won the game.....
all that creative tech rushing cost him the game ......no units to even think about killing the massive marauder/thor army that wrecked him. l
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On August 28 2010 13:31 Iggyhopper wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2010 13:28 Raji wrote:On August 28 2010 13:26 Iggyhopper wrote:
WoW players can transition to SC2. It doesn't mean they're in the same league. One camera angle vs. a whole map, army, or base?
No. I think Nadagast advancing and beating some good players proves you don't know what your talking about. He is obviously in the same league. So he is good at StarCraft II? You still haven't changed anything with what you said. All that matters is that he had to up his ante when he switched. Anyway, this WoW talk is seriously retarded. Is IdrA on tomorrow?
You make all this ruckus, and then ask a question like "Is IdrA on tomorrow?"
Lol.
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On August 28 2010 13:22 Serpico wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2010 13:19 Raji wrote:On August 28 2010 13:14 Serpico wrote:On August 28 2010 13:12 Raji wrote:On August 28 2010 13:10 Serpico wrote:On August 28 2010 13:04 Azarkon wrote:On August 28 2010 13:03 Raji wrote:On August 28 2010 13:00 Musoeun wrote:On August 28 2010 12:59 keV. wrote:
If a wow player wins SC2, TL will collapse upon itself. No we'll just get 300 threads saying "See, SC2 really doesn't take skill MBS automine huge group select dumb maps yaddayaddayadda BW RULES". Or maybe that's what you meant. Well i guess ill make the argument in this thread before that happens. High level WoW arena takes and insane amount of skill. A lot of which translates into high apm and the ability think very dynamically. This. Despite the imbalances in WoW, PvP Arena is actually pretty damn hard. TL people have this elitist attitude which kind of derives from the BW days, but realistically there are many games nowadays which require people to be just as on top of their game as SC 2, at least in terms of unit control and APM. WoW pvp is still horrible because the game wasnt built for it and has to cater to two different crowds of people. It will never take as much skill as SC 2. High level arena takes at least as much skill as Sc2. Random wow pvp takes as much skill as dominating the bronze league does. I think your miking the 2 up. No, it doesnt. The fact Blizzard has to try and balance around two different aspects of the game makes it inherently more imbalanced. Have you ever even seen high level wow arena? Ever watched it in person? The amount of things that go on in a single match boggles the mind. Balance has little to do with how much skill people have in top level play... If you knew anything about the pro arena scene, you would know that there is no 1 specific comp is dominating it. The state of the game is so fluid it's had dozens of compositions that were optimal or best. WoW is a mess with pvp balance and starting en e-sport out of that is flawed to begin with.
A game doesn't need to be balanced, or even good, to have a competitive scene.
There's even competitive rock, paper, scissors (I'm serious).
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On August 28 2010 13:29 tubey wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2010 13:29 Serpico wrote:On August 28 2010 13:28 Raji wrote:On August 28 2010 13:26 Iggyhopper wrote:
WoW players can transition to SC2. It doesn't mean they're in the same league. One camera angle vs. a whole map, army, or base?
No. I think Nadagast advancing and beating some good players proves you don't know what your talking about. He is obviously in the same league. sample size of one. Masq is a big time wow nerd bro. Just not as known as nadagast.
The same guy who struggled tonight? I'm not saying playing WoW makes you horrible at SC 2, but if someone came up to me and said WoW made them better at SC 2 I'd only say yes because they had experience in a tournament setting.
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On August 28 2010 13:31 Iggyhopper wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2010 13:28 Raji wrote:On August 28 2010 13:26 Iggyhopper wrote:
WoW players can transition to SC2. It doesn't mean they're in the same league. One camera angle vs. a whole map, army, or base?
No. I think Nadagast advancing and beating some good players proves you don't know what your talking about. He is obviously in the same league. So he is good at StarCraft II? You still haven't changed anything with what you said. All that matters is that he had to up the ante when he switched. Anyway, this WoW talk is seriously retarded. Is IdrA on tomorrow?
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On August 28 2010 13:32 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2010 13:31 Iggyhopper wrote:On August 28 2010 13:28 Raji wrote:On August 28 2010 13:26 Iggyhopper wrote:
WoW players can transition to SC2. It doesn't mean they're in the same league. One camera angle vs. a whole map, army, or base?
No. I think Nadagast advancing and beating some good players proves you don't know what your talking about. He is obviously in the same league. So he is good at StarCraft II? You still haven't changed anything with what you said. All that matters is that he had to up his ante when he switched. Anyway, this WoW talk is seriously retarded. Is IdrA on tomorrow? You make all this ruckus, and then ask a question like "Is IdrA on tomorrow?" Lol. I know right? I just wanted to get into the WoW-rage fight because all the cool kids are doing it.
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