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On August 02 2010 12:59 IdrA wrote:
the thing with is vs terran you literally cant play safe, if they wall and leave marines on the edge of their base they can do any number of strategies, all of which have completely different counters.
obviously i cared and did everything i could to win, terran is just utterly ridiculous right now.
it is not a fluke. it is a result of the fact that terran has a million viable rushes that have completely different counters and cannot be scouted, and they have a perfectly solid mid/late game to fall back on that you have to be aware of too. means you cant just cut econ to defend everything, if that were even possible, cuz then theyd run you over mid game.
Switch to terran then. Stop crying.
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On August 02 2010 13:04 GenocideRun wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2010 12:59 IdrA wrote:
the thing with is vs terran you literally cant play safe, if they wall and leave marines on the edge of their base they can do any number of strategies, all of which have completely different counters.
obviously i cared and did everything i could to win, terran is just utterly ridiculous right now.
it is not a fluke. it is a result of the fact that terran has a million viable rushes that have completely different counters and cannot be scouted, and they have a perfectly solid mid/late game to fall back on that you have to be aware of too. means you cant just cut econ to defend everything, if that were even possible, cuz then theyd run you over mid game. Switch to terran then. Stop crying.
He has valid points. That isn't crying.
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On August 02 2010 13:04 GenocideRun wrote:
Switch to terran then. Stop crying.
Yea let's just all play Terran that will solve all the balancing issues in a game with 3 races..
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On August 02 2010 13:04 GenocideRun wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2010 12:59 IdrA wrote:
the thing with is vs terran you literally cant play safe, if they wall and leave marines on the edge of their base they can do any number of strategies, all of which have completely different counters.
obviously i cared and did everything i could to win, terran is just utterly ridiculous right now.
it is not a fluke. it is a result of the fact that terran has a million viable rushes that have completely different counters and cannot be scouted, and they have a perfectly solid mid/late game to fall back on that you have to be aware of too. means you cant just cut econ to defend everything, if that were even possible, cuz then theyd run you over mid game. Switch to terran then. Stop crying.
I'm gonna be honest here, Idra's crying is justified.
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On August 02 2010 13:07 Predatus wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2010 13:04 GenocideRun wrote:
Switch to terran then. Stop crying. Yea let's just all play Terran that will solve all the balancing issues in a game with 3 races..
Well it would since we wouldn't need to balance them but it would be a really boring game. 
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Lol just cause some1 has very justified arguments doesn't mean they r crying, quit trolling Predatus. Anyway at this point, Zerg has been repeatedly nerfed while the stats continuously show Zerg winning percentages and ranks are going down.
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I'm not saying his crying isn't justified, its just mildly annoying how he consistently bad mouths other player. Totally uncalled for.
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Idra, time to return to your true race. Come back to the dark side! lol.
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I think IdrA would care quite a bit about the IEM considering it's one of the bigger tournaments around (sponsored by Intel, with branches in many other eSports games like WC 3, CS, DoTA, etc.), with a decent amount of money for those who qualify (they pay per game in later stages). I would not be surprised to see IdrA in one of the other rounds trying to qualify again.
He's also quite right about ZvT, especially in small best-ofs. Once again we have an open tournament and there's literally no Zerg in the semi-finals, three Terrans, and one Protoss.
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On August 02 2010 12:59 IdrA wrote:
the thing with is vs terran you literally cant play safe, if they wall and leave marines on the edge of their base they can do any number of strategies, all of which have completely different counters.
obviously i cared and did everything i could to win, terran is just utterly ridiculous right now.
it is not a fluke. it is a result of the fact that terran has a million viable rushes that have completely different counters and cannot be scouted, and they have a perfectly solid mid/late game to fall back on that you have to be aware of too. means you cant just cut econ to defend everything, if that were even possible, cuz then theyd run you over mid game.
QFT, besides baneling busting there is no way to keep the terran following the tech path he wants to early game and as the zerg that means you have to try to prepare for hellions, reapers, early rines/rauders, vikings... the list goes on and on. the terran army has massive flexibility
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utterly ridiculous is being modest.
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On August 02 2010 13:03 blabber wrote:
yeah I already knew that Silver played Terran, I was trying to make the point that a worse player is capable of beating a better player if the worse player plays Terran. Not gonna take away from Silver, you still need a lot of skill to play at the highest level, but you still have to account for the Terran Skill Inflation (TSI)
Well said.
Silver is good, but race imbalance does favor terran in all matchups.
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We know you're the best Idra! You summed it up perfectly.
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Idra, what would you change about Terran? It seems like the problem you describe goes deeper than the numbers and has more to do with the versatility of Terran. So short of changing the meta-game altogether, what changes can you do to Terran that would make it more balanced?
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ATM terran is pretty obviously powerful. Top three (four?) were Terran in both the nordic cup and this qualifier.
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Terran does have so many options to attempt or fall back on. I think that's a large part of the terran dominance.
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On August 02 2010 13:23 Warcloud wrote:
Idra, what would you change about Terran? It seems like the problem you describe goes deeper than the numbers and has more to do with the versatility of Terran. So short of changing the meta-game altogether, what changes can you do to Terran that would make it more balanced?
I'm pretty sure the problem does not lie with terran. Terran have a ton of options and are a very versatile and interesting race. Zerg on the other hand have less units, less abilitities, and less cool, quirky things such as lifting buildings and repairing.
Imo zerg should be raised to the level of terran, not terran dropped to the level of zerg.
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Fair enough. The question still stands except in Zerg form.
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On August 02 2010 13:17 GenocideRun wrote:
I'm not saying his crying isn't justified, its just mildly annoying how he consistently bad mouths other player. Totally uncalled for.
How would switching to terran solve that?
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Does it bug anyone else that PureMiss calls multiple barracks 'barrackses'.
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