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Brad
Profile Joined April 2010
2754 Posts
July 22 2010 03:06 GMT
#1601
On July 22 2010 11:58 hwanikani wrote:
So far, the games were disappointing :/

Hopefully we will have epic games coming up later.


It definitely feels that way, something has been missing.
Lee Jae Dong proved that a focus on mechanics and execution could solve problems in the StarCraft game strategy.
Mobius
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1268 Posts
July 22 2010 03:08 GMT
#1602
did whitera + intotherainbow play?
Entusman #51
Anfere
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada231 Posts
July 22 2010 03:08 GMT
#1603
Huk just keeps doing 1 base stuff, and even when he have an open window to expand, or really needs to expand since he is starting to get mined out, he just go kamikaze 1 base style anyway.

Tester was really amazing defending that push while having an expansion, Huk had so many more units and better composition, yet couldn't finish it with 1 push.

Those games vs Idra and Tester really shows how inexperienced Huk is. Just spams warp gates without a game plan, no creativity unless you call more warpgates than needed ''creativity''.
Immortal or no Immortal, that is the question ! Someone give me a hamlet skull !
MiniTsunami
Profile Joined June 2010
United States274 Posts
July 22 2010 03:09 GMT
#1604
On July 22 2010 12:04 billyX333 wrote:
I had a great feeling huk didnt win any of his sets
I watched his iccup.tv showmatch vs sheth just moments before day9 was to broadcast the first two sets of the tourney and huk seemed like he just didn't give a shit about the game
he kept pumping immortals vs sheth's mass hydras
he played as if he was completely disinterested in the games and i knew exactly what the reason was
i really took that as a major hint at what some of the results were for the tourney
i feel bad for him, he was probably incredibly disappointed


Probably, though he should be incredibly disappointed if he "wants to be the next Lim Yo Hwan"

He had a chance here to prove his skill, and utterly failed after talking so big.
Learn from the mistakes of others, because you won't live long enough to make them all yourself.
koppik
Profile Joined April 2010
United States676 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-22 03:13:57
July 22 2010 03:11 GMT
#1605
I thought HuK played pretty well both games. There's just not much you can do against that four warp-gate rush the first game if you don't scout the hidden. Just scrapping the collosus tech when he scouted pure stalker was the right choice. I thought HuK was actually going to win at a couple points in that game, but I guess Tester just knows how to blink.

IntotheRainbow just has a terrific game sense. It felt like he read Dimaga like a book the first two games, and it feels like he read White-ra too.
virgozero
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada412 Posts
July 22 2010 03:11 GMT
#1606
On July 22 2010 12:08 Anfere wrote:
Huk just keeps doing 1 base stuff, and even when he have an open window to expand, or really needs to expand since he is starting to get mined out, he just go kamikaze 1 base style anyway.

Tester was really amazing defending that push while having an expansion, Huk had so many more units and better composition, yet couldn't finish it with 1 push.

Those games vs Idra and Tester really shows how inexperienced Huk is. Just spams warp gates without a game plan, no creativity unless you call more warpgates than needed ''creativity''.

hes canada wtf cheer for your country !


no but to be honest, HuK's style is completely understandable. Hes going for all-ins and they DO work. Tester won because he was able to take advantage of the defenders advantage and the map terrain to out micro HuK. There is nothing wrong with HuK's style of play.

Not to mention taking an expansion againts blink stalkers is prettty tough since they get blink on to that high ground.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-22 06:57:41
July 22 2010 03:18 GMT
#1607
On July 22 2010 12:08 Mobius wrote:
did whitera + intotherainbow play?
WhiteRa vs IntoTheRainbow was casted before that, today, yes. VODs are usually up very quickly (in a few hours at most). edit: already up, yay
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Anfere
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada231 Posts
July 22 2010 03:19 GMT
#1608
He is Canadian yet i just can't appreciate the perma 4 gaterways plays he puts in each and every one of his games, and all the all inish variations, 3 gateway robo and stuff. Sc2 is more than that, i mean 4 gateway all in is a good strat to amass points while laddering, but this is a different level of scene and games, the 4 gateways garbage won't work. Maybe too much laddering kills the brain
Immortal or no Immortal, that is the question ! Someone give me a hamlet skull !
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
July 22 2010 03:20 GMT
#1609
Games were fast, but come on, the creativity and polish to their play is just amazing to watch. And it's not passive either. It's constantly probing and looking for places to abuse your opponent, always waiting to attack. I love it.
kekeque
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada68 Posts
July 22 2010 03:25 GMT
#1610
all korean finals :D damn I know I'm cheering for intotherainbow but I like white-ra too and to see him get crushed that quick and easy I wish he put up a better fight.

huk and tester game was fun to watch, I like how these koreans are able to adapt to anything and come out strong.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-22 03:27:42
July 22 2010 03:25 GMT
#1611
On July 22 2010 12:11 koppik wrote:
I thought HuK played pretty well both games. There's just not much you can do against that four warp-gate rush the first game if you don't scout the hidden. Just scrapping the collosus tech when he scouted pure stalker was the right choice. I thought HuK was actually going to win at a couple points in that game, but I guess Tester just knows how to blink.

IntotheRainbow just has a terrific game sense. It felt like he read Dimaga like a book the first two games, and it feels like he read White-ra too.


In these games, it was not so much about ITR's amazing game sense as it was about White-Ra's lack of game sense, sadly, As Subversion pointed out above, his cheese could've worked if he didn't send his hidden probe into ITR's mineral line in plain view. As soon as ITR saw that he sent a SCV up to scout and that was the end for White-Ra. You just don't make that kind of mistake against top pros. And in the second game, as Jinro pointed out, 100 energy for chrono boosts... Think two chrono boosted void rays might have won the game or at least made it not so one-sided? Yeah, they might have, considering that Ra lost so many units/probes to those marauders that could've been picked off by an earlier void ray.

As far as Tester's games with Huk goes, Tester demonstrated that oldies are goodies. The four warp gate in your base rush still works in the hands of a pro, and blink stalkers are still awesome for mobility on LT. He might have lost the game on LT if Huk had not forced the issue but backed off after taking out Tester's expo - that was a major mistake on Huk's part given that he had an army advantage for most of the game and could've expanded himself. He chose to all-in the rest of the way, and Tester exploited the key trick of FF'ing your ramp that Huk had no answer for (if he had researched Hallucinate, he would've had an answer for it, but he didn't. Why not?)

All in all, I think the non-Korean players lost by their own mistakes and failure to capitalize on strategic opportunities. The Koreans played better, with less flaws, and with greater understanding. End of story.
sickoota
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada918 Posts
July 22 2010 03:27 GMT
#1612
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=127921 here's a thread about the build tester used in game 1 vs huk... its pretty much unstoppable even if you scout the proxy.
I could spend a while with that smile
jarlelin
Profile Joined June 2010
Norway31 Posts
July 22 2010 03:29 GMT
#1613
Dear THOUGHT HAMMER, can you please make the replays of the games from the King of the Beta available as they are being cast please? Would love ro review them myself after your cast.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
July 22 2010 03:31 GMT
#1614
On July 22 2010 12:11 koppik wrote:
I thought HuK played pretty well both games.
Liked his second game - mvp of today for bringing a more macro, base-hunting game.

First game WhiteRa vs IntoTheRainbow was sooo much fun to watch. That's the type of game where a live audience could shout and scream with all those little flanks and positional micro wars. I expect SC2 to grow in this direction, as playing styles evolve.

In the baller poll, I think ITR needs to be added with marines, and Tester - with pylons, lol.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
MiniTsunami
Profile Joined June 2010
United States274 Posts
July 22 2010 03:31 GMT
#1615
On July 22 2010 12:29 jarlelin wrote:
Dear THOUGHT HAMMER, can you please make the replays of the games from the King of the Beta available as they are being cast please? Would love ro review them myself after your cast.


I'm sure the players would not be delighted to have all the replays released. There is a certain etiquette involved.
Learn from the mistakes of others, because you won't live long enough to make them all yourself.
Day[9]
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States7366 Posts
July 22 2010 03:33 GMT
#1616
OK everything is getting uploaded

It'll be up shortly
Whenever I encounter some little hitch, or some of my orbs get out of orbit, nothing pleases me so much as to make the crooked straight and crush down uneven places. www.day9.tv
pencilcase
Profile Joined September 2007
United States330 Posts
July 22 2010 03:34 GMT
#1617
On July 22 2010 12:25 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 12:11 koppik wrote:
I thought HuK played pretty well both games. There's just not much you can do against that four warp-gate rush the first game if you don't scout the hidden. Just scrapping the collosus tech when he scouted pure stalker was the right choice. I thought HuK was actually going to win at a couple points in that game, but I guess Tester just knows how to blink.

IntotheRainbow just has a terrific game sense. It felt like he read Dimaga like a book the first two games, and it feels like he read White-ra too.


In these games, it was not so much about ITR's amazing game sense as it was about White-Ra's lack of game sense, sadly, As Subversion pointed out above, his cheese could've worked if he didn't send his hidden probe into ITR's mineral line in plain view. As soon as ITR saw that he sent a SCV up to scout and that was the end for White-Ra. You just don't make that kind of mistake against top pros. And in the second game, as Jinro pointed out, 100 energy for chrono boosts... Think two chrono boosted void rays might have won the game or at least made it not so one-sided? Yeah, they might have, considering that Ra lost so many units/probes to those marauders that could've been picked off by an earlier void ray.

As far as Tester's games with Huk goes, Tester demonstrated that oldies are goodies. The four warp gate in your base rush still works in the hands of a pro, and blink stalkers are still awesome for mobility on LT. He might have lost the game on LT if Huk had not forced the issue but backed off after taking out Tester's expo - that was a major mistake on Huk's part given that he had an army advantage for most of the game and could've expanded himself. He chose to all-in the rest of the way, and Tester exploited the key trick of FF'ing your ramp that Huk had no answer for (if he had researched Hallucinate, he would've had an answer for it, but he didn't. Why not?)

All in all, I think the non-Korean players lost by their own mistakes and failure to capitalize on strategic opportunities. The Koreans played better, with less flaws, and with greater understanding. End of story.

Actually hallucinated colossus breaking forcefields are out of the game as of phase 2.
Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
July 22 2010 03:36 GMT
#1618
On July 22 2010 12:20 Klogon wrote:
Games were fast, but come on, the creativity and polish to their play is just amazing to watch. And it's not passive either. It's constantly probing and looking for places to abuse your opponent, always waiting to attack. I love it.


This is my opinion summed up perfectly. I just love how White Ra would push back with his last stalker just to take a marine of IntoTheRainbow. I would have been running out there with my tail between my legs, but it just shows you that these players are always looking for any way to get ahead or catch up. The games were great.

And for the HuK hate, he was playing some of the best players in the world and he played some great games. We can all post about how he does this or didn't do that, but at the end of the day he played good games vers good opponents and just didn't come out on top. They were great games and I am no less of a HuK fan after watching them.
Life is Good.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
July 22 2010 03:37 GMT
#1619
I see. Well, he had the robo bay. One colossi might have done it.
goldrush
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Canada709 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-22 03:43:40
July 22 2010 03:42 GMT
#1620
From what I've seen so far, I think that the Korean players are just better in almost all facets of the game. Their builds look polished and less made-up-on-the-spot, they usually seem to have some sense of how the rest of the game should play out and make very good decisions, and their unit control/mechanics have been pretty darned good. The gap is astonishing and it'd be surprising if a non-Korean won a single match against a Korean this tournament.

I am, however, disappointed that Korean zergs don't have a representative. It'd be nice to see how they use all of the tactical tricks that zerg offers against the best of the best.
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