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Qwerty.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States292 Posts
July 24 2010 03:40 GMT
#2781
So Tester plays IntoTheRainbow and IdrA plays qxc, because they weren't in each other's groups? If so, that would guarantee USA vs Korea finals Perhaps another IdrA-Tester showdown
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
July 24 2010 03:40 GMT
#2782
On July 24 2010 12:38 kNyTTyM wrote:
phew..
That was a close one so only 2 terrans now instead of 3. Also all 3 asia server players make it into the top 4.


Not only are they Asia server, 2 are ex-A-Teamers and of course there is Idra.
wintergt
Profile Joined February 2010
Belgium1335 Posts
July 24 2010 03:40 GMT
#2783
Didn't properly see but there must have been some mis-micro to make TLO lose that push I think. If he had scanned and seen Idra had no units, coulda put his tanks farther up, and did all the SCVs died to tank splash or something?
here i am
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
July 24 2010 03:40 GMT
#2784
After watching the games in the tester series, It seems to me he is just really good at early game play/cheese, the only late game I saw was against TLO and he seemed extremely outclassed and disorganised.... maybe Im wrong, but i think any of those players will beat him if they can withstand his early cheese.
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
Mr.Eternity
Profile Joined May 2010
United States143 Posts
July 24 2010 03:41 GMT
#2785
On July 24 2010 12:38 st3roids wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2010 12:37 Mr.Eternity wrote:
On July 24 2010 12:36 starcat wrote:
On July 24 2010 12:33 L0thar wrote:
Hopefully that will at least shut up the Terran imba whiners.

But who am I kidding...


Because 1 game disproves that? L2p.



Yes, one STRATEGY does disprove that...



um what was the point of so many thors vs so few mutas ?

If he had more tanks should have won this easy , since idra was way unprepared for the push.


True, but without the thors, could he have defended the mutas mixed in with the roaches? Plus, TLO shouldnt have sieged his tanks, unseiged does good dps and gives some mobility to the army
"Because nobody can make it alone"
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-24 03:42:10
July 24 2010 03:41 GMT
#2786
On July 24 2010 12:00 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2010 11:58 SubtleArt wrote:
On July 24 2010 11:56 Stratos_speAr wrote:


Yea but the required skill set is, like I said, identical. If ur pro at Sc1 you're also extremely good at Sc2, once u figure out the basic info

Also man, Idras style is pretty much the direct counter to TLOs


Timings and unit reactions aren't basic info.

And yea, that was a poorly played game by TLO.


Timings are useful at the very highest level of play yea, but knowing what units counter wat, a stable build order, and just your sc1 mechanics is enough to play extremely well in sc2. I'm C in BW and I got to diamond easily just by relying on my BW mechanics


Diamond isn't high. A low D player can get to Diamond. That's nowhere near the skill ceiling.


LOL wtf is higher than diamond? Is there a league I don't know about? And low D player getting in diamond? You have to be shitting me.
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
July 24 2010 03:41 GMT
#2787
On July 24 2010 12:40 Darpa wrote:
After watching the games in the tester series, It seems to me he is just really good at early game play/cheese, the only late game I saw was against TLO and he seemed extremely outclassed and disorganised.... maybe Im wrong, but i think any of those players will beat him if they can withstand his early cheese.


I don't think tester lacks in late game.... in the game that he lost to TLO he got waaaay behind after losing his nexus to TLO's initial push.
brain_
Profile Joined June 2010
United States812 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-24 03:42:16
July 24 2010 03:42 GMT
#2788
On July 24 2010 12:37 Mr.Eternity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2010 12:36 starcat wrote:
On July 24 2010 12:33 L0thar wrote:
Hopefully that will at least shut up the Terran imba whiners.

But who am I kidding...


Because 1 game disproves that? L2p.



Yes, one STRATEGY does disprove that...



Idra played almost perfectly (hero Hellion aside) whereas TLO made a bunch of mistakes. I still think IdrA could have lost if TLO had micro'd his Thor timing push better. Plus, it is just stupid that getting one Thor out shuts down almost all Muta harass.


They should let Corruptors shoot Thors (with the +massive) just like Colossi. Vikings and stimmed Marines are already insanely good AA, and Thors will still be good against massed air units (and kickass on ground). Terran doesn't need any more insanely good units.
st3roids
Profile Joined June 2010
Greece538 Posts
July 24 2010 03:42 GMT
#2789
On July 24 2010 12:40 Darpa wrote:
After watching the games in the tester series, It seems to me he is just really good at early game play/cheese, the only late game I saw was against TLO and he seemed extremely outclassed and disorganised.... maybe Im wrong, but i think any of those players will beat him if they can withstand his early cheese.



Yea cause the best ogs player sucks at macroing ;p
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
July 24 2010 03:42 GMT
#2790
AWESOME games by IdrA. Finally showing us his potential.

So it's going to be IdrA vs. Qxc in the semi-finals? Gonna be epic. But it's not going to be an all-Korean finals unless you consider IdrA to be Korean
koppik
Profile Joined April 2010
United States676 Posts
July 24 2010 03:42 GMT
#2791
On July 24 2010 12:38 st3roids wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2010 12:37 Mr.Eternity wrote:
On July 24 2010 12:36 starcat wrote:
On July 24 2010 12:33 L0thar wrote:
Hopefully that will at least shut up the Terran imba whiners.

But who am I kidding...


Because 1 game disproves that? L2p.



Yes, one STRATEGY does disprove that...



um what was the point of so many thors vs so few mutas ?

If he had more tanks should have won this easy , since idra was way unprepared for the push.
If he made fewer thors, IdrA could make more mutas. It's less dangerous, usually, if more roaches are left over since all your units can shoot ground. Mutas power down your thors, it's usually gg for you.
shlomo
Profile Joined May 2010
258 Posts
July 24 2010 03:42 GMT
#2792
Idra showing flavor-of-the-month race TLO how it's done.

Good stuff, was getting kinda tired of the "cute" harass/passive to BC rush...
Adsee
Profile Joined May 2010
United States221 Posts
July 24 2010 03:43 GMT
#2793
While I was rooting for TLO that game, Idra played fantastically in game 3. I sure thought he was going to be beat, but god damn, he really pulled through that. Game 2 was also great, mainly due to TLOs interesting strategy. Idra was on fire during the third and first games though, and TLO just did way too many mistakes in game one, and shouldn't have sieged, unsieged, and resieged in the final fight.
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-24 03:44:11
July 24 2010 03:43 GMT
#2794
On July 24 2010 12:41 SubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2010 12:00 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On July 24 2010 11:58 SubtleArt wrote:
On July 24 2010 11:56 Stratos_speAr wrote:


Yea but the required skill set is, like I said, identical. If ur pro at Sc1 you're also extremely good at Sc2, once u figure out the basic info

Also man, Idras style is pretty much the direct counter to TLOs


Timings and unit reactions aren't basic info.

And yea, that was a poorly played game by TLO.


Timings are useful at the very highest level of play yea, but knowing what units counter wat, a stable build order, and just your sc1 mechanics is enough to play extremely well in sc2. I'm C in BW and I got to diamond easily just by relying on my BW mechanics


Diamond isn't high. A low D player can get to Diamond. That's nowhere near the skill ceiling.


LOL wtf is higher than diamond? Is there a league I don't know about? And low D player getting in diamond? You have to be shitting me.


I was never higher than D/D+ ICCUP... 450+ Diamond so yes a low D player can do ok in Diamond (at least as it was phase 2)... Some have never even played SC1 and still got into Diamond...

Anyways, enough beating a dead horse.
RmoteCntrld
Profile Joined June 2010
United States596 Posts
July 24 2010 03:43 GMT
#2795
IdrA defended that because he waited with his roaches instead of knee jerking into a tank line. TLO over extended his Thors and paid the price. Patience is a virtue.
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
July 24 2010 03:43 GMT
#2796
On July 24 2010 12:42 brain_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2010 12:37 Mr.Eternity wrote:
On July 24 2010 12:36 starcat wrote:
On July 24 2010 12:33 L0thar wrote:
Hopefully that will at least shut up the Terran imba whiners.

But who am I kidding...


Because 1 game disproves that? L2p.



Yes, one STRATEGY does disprove that...



Idra played almost perfectly (hero Hellion aside) whereas TLO made a bunch of mistakes. I still think IdrA could have lost if TLO had micro'd his Thor timing push better. Plus, it is just stupid that getting one Thor out shuts down almost all Muta harass.


They should let Corruptors shoot Thors (with the +massive) just like Colossi. Vikings and stimmed Marines are already insanely good AA, and Thors will still be good against massed air units (and kickass on ground). Terran doesn't need any more insanely good units.


Yea Thor's anti air is a bit redonkulos vs bio. Its basically a BW archon with awesome range
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
July 24 2010 03:43 GMT
#2797
On July 24 2010 12:41 SubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2010 12:00 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On July 24 2010 11:58 SubtleArt wrote:
On July 24 2010 11:56 Stratos_speAr wrote:


Yea but the required skill set is, like I said, identical. If ur pro at Sc1 you're also extremely good at Sc2, once u figure out the basic info

Also man, Idras style is pretty much the direct counter to TLOs


Timings and unit reactions aren't basic info.

And yea, that was a poorly played game by TLO.


Timings are useful at the very highest level of play yea, but knowing what units counter wat, a stable build order, and just your sc1 mechanics is enough to play extremely well in sc2. I'm C in BW and I got to diamond easily just by relying on my BW mechanics


Diamond isn't high. A low D player can get to Diamond. That's nowhere near the skill ceiling.


LOL wtf is higher than diamond? Is there a league I don't know about? And low D player getting in diamond? You have to be shitting me.

I think he's saying that being in diamond doesn't mean much because in fact, even D-/D players can get into diamond (which is true)
blabberrrrr
L0thar
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
987 Posts
July 24 2010 03:43 GMT
#2798
On July 24 2010 12:34 Entropic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2010 12:33 L0thar wrote:
Hopefully that will at least shut up the Terran imba whiners.

But who am I kidding...


There should be just a stickied thread where all the terran is OP discussion can go, not that I care/go to strategy forum at all lol...


Yeah, I'm avoiding it as well, but the whining is spreading everywhere. I just fear the day when it'll got to the BW section too lol.

But seriously, the whiners should shut the fuck up in threads like this. Show some respect to the players people :/.
brain_
Profile Joined June 2010
United States812 Posts
July 24 2010 03:43 GMT
#2799
On July 24 2010 12:42 Azarkon wrote:
AWESOME games by IdrA. Finally showing us his potential.

So it's going to be IdrA vs. Qxc in the semi-finals? Gonna be epic. But it's not going to be an all-Korean finals unless you consider IdrA to be Korean



American vs Korean finals would make the live crowd go NUTS at the party (I can't wait!). Either way they will be awesome games. I hope IdrA or Tester win.
shlomo
Profile Joined May 2010
258 Posts
July 24 2010 03:44 GMT
#2800
On July 24 2010 12:42 brain_ wrote:
Idra played almost perfectly (hero Hellion aside) whereas TLO made a bunch of mistakes. I still think IdrA could have lost if TLO had micro'd his Thor timing push better. Plus, it is just stupid that getting one Thor out shuts down almost all Muta harass.


They should let Corruptors shoot Thors (with the +massive) just like Colossi. Vikings and stimmed Marines are already insanely good AA, and Thors will still be good against massed air units (and kickass on ground). Terran doesn't need any more insanely good units.


They sure do if Dustin Browder's kids are going to win some games!

Serious balance is serious.
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