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Merua
Profile Joined June 2010
United States83 Posts
June 29 2010 04:07 GMT
#101
jms what tourney did u hold?
Merua.265 Diamond -6xx
Bensio
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom621 Posts
June 29 2010 04:12 GMT
#102
On June 29 2010 13:07 Merua wrote:
jms what tourney did u hold?


His tourney hasnt happened yet, its the Global Gamers, lets hope hes not secretly as good as the players in his tourneys
parKK
Profile Joined May 2010
Cape Verde9 Posts
June 29 2010 04:16 GMT
#103
ID: parkk
Race: Protoss
Country: Portugal
Silver/Gold
o.o
Merua
Profile Joined June 2010
United States83 Posts
June 29 2010 04:18 GMT
#104
haha lol well jms if u can point out which ppl are the diamond players itd be greatly appreciated
Merua.265 Diamond -6xx
JMS31207
Profile Joined May 2010
United States292 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-29 04:21:21
June 29 2010 04:20 GMT
#105
On June 29 2010 13:07 Merua wrote:
jms what tourney did u hold?

the best tournament EVA, check it out

On June 29 2010 13:18 Merua wrote:
haha lol well jms if u can point out which ppl are the diamond players itd be greatly appreciated

me and bensio are on it
work hard, play hard
Arovien
Profile Joined June 2010
United States123 Posts
June 29 2010 04:21 GMT
#106
On June 28 2010 12:56 Zero-D wrote:
Unfortunately or fortunately this will be for GOLD players and below

Looks like this is a very unfortunate requirement. Many Plat+ players are interested in such a tourney (probably many more hiding in noob clothing).
We either gotta convince the host to change the requirement or luck out...or...
That's just how I do...
JMS31207
Profile Joined May 2010
United States292 Posts
June 29 2010 04:23 GMT
#107
On June 29 2010 13:21 Arovien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2010 12:56 Zero-D wrote:
Unfortunately or fortunately this will be for GOLD players and below

Looks like this is a very unfortunate requirement. Many Plat+ players are interested in such a tourney (probably many more hiding in noob clothing).
We either gotta convince the host to change the requirement or luck out...or...

platinum plus players have about 50 different tournaments to choose from...
work hard, play hard
ZeaLL
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada53 Posts
June 29 2010 04:23 GMT
#108
Hope I can play and represent Canada.
Awaken my child, and embrace the glory that is your birthright. Know that I am the Overmind; the eternal will of the Swarm, and that you have been created to serve me.
Onlinejaguar
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia2823 Posts
June 29 2010 04:31 GMT
#109
Yeh i really would appreciate if the Diamond level players would stay out of this tournament. Your not doing yourself any favors stomping on people much lower skill level then yourself.
ZomgTossRush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1041 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-29 04:36:36
June 29 2010 04:32 GMT
#110
TBH, this is a horrible way at least at this point to prove rank. Considering how many players probably just blew placement games to rank low and grind vs lower ranked players(see 1/3 of D level iccup players).
Or the fact that people may have been screwed by doing placement matches in unstable Bnet times shoving them in a league weaker than themselves.
Or how resets happend every few weeks so this stated factors couldn't be diminished(for lack of a better word).
Or how most of the educated TL members agree that the entire league system has alot of flaws.
Or how players could just make new TL accts to put an image of newbiness when they could be quality players.

My point is that the BNET metal system is not accurate at displaying skill level, yet. Who knows after the game comes out.

I suggest as another player said earlier that you should be able to invite any player who havn't seemed to appear in any US tounaments. I can't imagine the list being very large to have to figure out. This can also give good but unknown players an option of acheving e-fame. Sort of like a minor league.

*prime example would be that after one reset 2 of my placement matches were just given to me. The opponents just purposful lost or just left the game after a few minutes. This means that i could be placed in Plat while only having the skill of a Gold level player. And vice versa the players who throw their matches could be Gosu but still in gold.
Coaching for 1v1 and Team games at Gosucoaching.com
Bensio
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom621 Posts
June 29 2010 04:36 GMT
#111
On June 29 2010 13:32 zomgtossrush wrote:

TBH, this is a horrible way at least at this point to prove rank. Considering how many players probably just blew placement games to rank low and grind vs lower ranked players(see 1/3 of D level iccup players).
Or the fact that people may have been screwed by doing placement matches in unstable Bnet times shoving them in a league weaker than themselves.
Or how resets happend every few weeks so this stated factors couldn't be diminished(for lack of a better word).
Or how most of the educated TL members agree that the entire league system has alot of flaws.
Or how players could just make new TL accts to put an image of newbiness when they could be quality players.

My point is that the BNET metal system is not accurate at displaying skill level, yet. Who knows after the game comes out.

I suggest as another player said earlier that you should be able to invite any player who havn't seemed to appear in any US tounaments. I can't imagine the list being very large to have to figure out. This can also give good but unknown players an option of acheving e-fame. Sort of like a minor league.


While I agree, your suggestion has the same flaws as the current one.
JMS31207
Profile Joined May 2010
United States292 Posts
June 29 2010 04:38 GMT
#112
On June 29 2010 13:32 zomgtossrush wrote:
TBH, this is a horrible way at least at this point to prove rank. Considering how many players probably just blew placement games to rank low and grind vs lower ranked players(see 1/3 of D level iccup players).
Or the fact that people may have been screwed by doing placement matches in unstable Bnet times shoving them in a league weaker than themselves.
Or how resets happend every few weeks so this stated factors couldn't be diminished(for lack of a better word).
Or how most of the educated TL members agree that the entire league system has alot of flaws.
Or how players could just make new TL accts to put an image of newbiness when they could be quality players.

My point is that the BNET metal system is not accurate at displaying skill level, yet. Who knows after the game comes out.

I suggest as another player said earlier that you should be able to invite any player who havn't seemed to appear in any US tounaments. I can't imagine the list being very large to have to figure out. This can also give good but unknown players an option of acheving e-fame. Sort of like a minor league.

*prime example would be that after one reset 2 of my placement matches were just given to me. The opponents just purposful lost or just left the game after a few minutes. This means that i could be placed in Plat while only having the skill of a Gold level player. And vice versa the players who throw their matches could be Gosu but still in gold.


i dont think its about e-fame, for me, its about wanting to play people around my skill level in a tournament environment and learning to deal with the pressure.
work hard, play hard
ZomgTossRush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1041 Posts
June 29 2010 04:49 GMT
#113
I agree with the past two posters 100%

But i can assure you that that tournaments without strict ways of enforcing and confirming skill level you will encouter smurfs(creating new accts to grind vs weak players). Iccup has a huge problem of this which discourages me of even using Iccup. While you can't have multiple accts with one SC2 key the concept still applies.

I actually think that with a cash prize you will have more Good players fakeing weakness then playing with players your own skill level.

Here is a suggestion. Try doing group stage play. Or double or even triple elimantion rounds. Some system where you will get plently of acutal games in the tournament feel.
Coaching for 1v1 and Team games at Gosucoaching.com
Bensio
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom621 Posts
June 29 2010 04:53 GMT
#114
On June 29 2010 13:49 zomgtossrush wrote:
I agree with the past two posters 100%

But i can assure you that that tournaments without strict ways of enforcing and confirming skill level you will encouter smurfs(creating new accts to grind vs weak players). Iccup has a huge problem of this which discourages me of even using Iccup. While you can't have multiple accts with one SC2 key the concept still applies.

I actually think that with a cash prize you will have more Good players fakeing weakness then playing with players your own skill level.

Here is a suggestion. Try doing group stage play. Or double or even triple elimantion rounds. Some system where you will get plently of acutal games in the tournament feel.


Well If Blizzard refuses to implement a system where you set up requirements for our own tournament, then its facepalm.

And if they dont, then If I'm creating a silver and lower tourney for example after the games launch, then I will simply add minimum 100 1v1 games played, im sure noone will fake 100 games to be in tournaments that arent even guaranteed to ever exist
JMS31207
Profile Joined May 2010
United States292 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-29 04:54:04
June 29 2010 04:53 GMT
#115
On June 29 2010 13:49 zomgtossrush wrote:
I agree with the past two posters 100%

But i can assure you that that tournaments without strict ways of enforcing and confirming skill level you will encouter smurfs(creating new accts to grind vs weak players). Iccup has a huge problem of this which discourages me of even using Iccup. While you can't have multiple accts with one SC2 key the concept still applies.

I actually think that with a cash prize you will have more Good players fakeing weakness then playing with players your own skill level.

Here is a suggestion. Try doing group stage play. Or double or even triple elimantion rounds. Some system where you will get plently of acutal games in the tournament feel.


ninja'd
work hard, play hard
AmericaSC
Profile Joined June 2010
United States24 Posts
June 29 2010 04:57 GMT
#116
To be honest, any players above Gold should just go play in the hundreds of tournaments available for them. Thanks to the people who are finding the liars in this thread
I may suck, but at least I have fun sucking.
Bensio
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom621 Posts
June 29 2010 04:58 GMT
#117
On June 29 2010 13:57 AmericaSC wrote:
To be honest, any players above Gold should just go play in the hundreds of tournaments available for them. Thanks to the people who are finding the liars in this thread


Youre welcome, im on a mission, I'm tellin you, I will check every opponent I face, every build order for something fishy
theDragoon
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada307 Posts
June 29 2010 04:58 GMT
#118
On June 29 2010 13:38 JMS31207 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2010 13:32 zomgtossrush wrote:
TBH, this is a horrible way at least at this point to prove rank. Considering how many players probably just blew placement games to rank low and grind vs lower ranked players(see 1/3 of D level iccup players).
Or the fact that people may have been screwed by doing placement matches in unstable Bnet times shoving them in a league weaker than themselves.
Or how resets happend every few weeks so this stated factors couldn't be diminished(for lack of a better word).
Or how most of the educated TL members agree that the entire league system has alot of flaws.
Or how players could just make new TL accts to put an image of newbiness when they could be quality players.

My point is that the BNET metal system is not accurate at displaying skill level, yet. Who knows after the game comes out.

I suggest as another player said earlier that you should be able to invite any player who havn't seemed to appear in any US tounaments. I can't imagine the list being very large to have to figure out. This can also give good but unknown players an option of acheving e-fame. Sort of like a minor league.

*prime example would be that after one reset 2 of my placement matches were just given to me. The opponents just purposful lost or just left the game after a few minutes. This means that i could be placed in Plat while only having the skill of a Gold level player. And vice versa the players who throw their matches could be Gosu but still in gold.


i dont think its about e-fame, for me, its about wanting to play people around my skill level in a tournament environment and learning to deal with the pressure.


that's exactly why i signed up for this and i'm sure this is why the other gold or lower level players signed up as well. most tourneys have platinum and diamond level players and it just won't be fun for the lower level players to participate in those because we'll just get roflstomped.

for there to be a gold level tourney like this gives us "noobs" a chance to have some fun and compete with each other in a tournament setting.
JMS31207
Profile Joined May 2010
United States292 Posts
June 29 2010 06:14 GMT
#119
On June 29 2010 13:58 theDragoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2010 13:38 JMS31207 wrote:
On June 29 2010 13:32 zomgtossrush wrote:
TBH, this is a horrible way at least at this point to prove rank. Considering how many players probably just blew placement games to rank low and grind vs lower ranked players(see 1/3 of D level iccup players).
Or the fact that people may have been screwed by doing placement matches in unstable Bnet times shoving them in a league weaker than themselves.
Or how resets happend every few weeks so this stated factors couldn't be diminished(for lack of a better word).
Or how most of the educated TL members agree that the entire league system has alot of flaws.
Or how players could just make new TL accts to put an image of newbiness when they could be quality players.

My point is that the BNET metal system is not accurate at displaying skill level, yet. Who knows after the game comes out.

I suggest as another player said earlier that you should be able to invite any player who havn't seemed to appear in any US tounaments. I can't imagine the list being very large to have to figure out. This can also give good but unknown players an option of acheving e-fame. Sort of like a minor league.

*prime example would be that after one reset 2 of my placement matches were just given to me. The opponents just purposful lost or just left the game after a few minutes. This means that i could be placed in Plat while only having the skill of a Gold level player. And vice versa the players who throw their matches could be Gosu but still in gold.


i dont think its about e-fame, for me, its about wanting to play people around my skill level in a tournament environment and learning to deal with the pressure.


that's exactly why i signed up for this and i'm sure this is why the other gold or lower level players signed up as well. most tourneys have platinum and diamond level players and it just won't be fun for the lower level players to participate in those because we'll just get roflstomped.

for there to be a gold level tourney like this gives us "noobs" a chance to have some fun and compete with each other in a tournament setting.

yeah, its kinda disgraceful, even with us finding them they should feel ashamed for wanting to just pwn some low level players that are just trying to have some fun
work hard, play hard
Happyfunguy
Profile Joined June 2010
United States5 Posts
June 29 2010 06:16 GMT
#120
Skill Gold
Id. happy.funguy *if there is an identifier*

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