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hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
September 24 2010 21:24 GMT
#301
On September 25 2010 05:47 OminouS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2010 05:06 hifriend wrote:
I've noticed a trend recently in that every time there's a zvt the commentators are constantly praising the terrans micro. Personally I don't find sc2 especially micro intensive but seriously, every terran can't be a micro genius.

Or maybe that's it, terran pickers are inherently better at microing while zerg pickers suck at defending early game, preventing harass and scouting openings. :D

edit: seriously think about this, I guarantee you that in 9 out of 10 terran matchups the commentators will be nerdgasming all over terran micro lol.


I don't know about that, but the part I 'praised' was the decision making from Naama, not the micro per sei.

Great to be co-casting, hoping for more co-casts in the future.

Yeah it's not exactly criticism. I mean it's possible terran in nature has more opportunity of impressive micro. I hope you get to co-cast more as well I enjoyed your commentary!
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9422 Posts
September 24 2010 21:42 GMT
#302
On September 25 2010 06:13 theqat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2010 06:02 Hider wrote:
On September 25 2010 05:15 LaLuSh wrote:
Don't like banshees. Whoever thought of the design concept for banshees over at Blizzard is a complete retard. An easily accessible air unit that 2 shots workers. On top of that no anti air unit in tier1/tier1.5 for one of the races. Way to add insane randomness to the game.

Don't like going hydras. But since he expands with 0 units defending and rushes raven, mutas are a complete waste. Impossible to slow play and take a third, since his expo is so early and so greedy, i'll never have enough to defend if I try to take 3rd and play passive.

Oh and did I mention MULEs are imba. Economic damage is a concept that doesn't apply to terran.

Would have won last game with infestors. Tried to make them at 3-4 different points in the game, only to realise towards the end I somehow failed at putting down an infestation pit.


Still dont get why mutas are a complete waste? Raven is not very good vs mutas compared to how hydras fare. And mutas gives you map control.


Raven is much better vs. Mutas than Hydras other than the fact that Hydras cannot run from anything. PDD shines big time vs. slow-firing Mutas as opposed to fast-firing Hydras.


Attack-run away with pdd > mutas.
Kaitsuh
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland45 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-24 23:52:21
September 24 2010 23:46 GMT
#303
On September 25 2010 05:47 OminouS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2010 05:06 hifriend wrote:
I've noticed a trend recently in that every time there's a zvt the commentators are constantly praising the terrans micro. Personally I don't find sc2 especially micro intensive but seriously, every terran can't be a micro genius.

Or maybe that's it, terran pickers are inherently better at microing while zerg pickers suck at defending early game, preventing harass and scouting openings. :D

edit: seriously think about this, I guarantee you that in 9 out of 10 terran matchups the commentators will be nerdgasming all over terran micro lol.


I don't know about that, but the part I 'praised' was the decision making from Naama, not the micro per sei.

Great to be co-casting, hoping for more co-casts in the future.

You guys did great. Was most enjoyable. Overall the Viking Cup is one of the best tournament series in my opinion, high quality stream, pleasant casters and entertaining games too. Hopefully your tournament brackets start evening out too with the new patch, much more interesting to see zerg and protoss in there too.

And do some ruthless self-promotion on TL too, bump your thread whenever you're starting a cast. I think you missed like 1k viewers tonight because the TL calendar had some mixup (or maybe I was just tripping, could have sworn it showed the game for saturday evening earlier today) and the thread had no messages about starting a cast.
SwampZero
Profile Joined September 2010
Greece350 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-25 17:28:40
September 25 2010 17:28 GMT
#304
On September 25 2010 05:15 LaLuSh wrote:
Don't like banshees. Whoever thought of the design concept for banshees over at Blizzard is a complete retard. An easily accessible air unit that 2 shots workers. On top of that no anti air unit in tier1/tier1.5 for one of the races. Way to add insane randomness to the game.

Don't like going hydras. But since he expands with 0 units defending and rushes raven, mutas are a complete waste. Impossible to slow play and take a third, since his expo is so early and so greedy, i'll never have enough to defend if I try to take 3rd and play passive.

Oh and did I mention MULEs are imba. Economic damage is a concept that doesn't apply to terran.

Would have won last game with infestors. Tried to make them at 3-4 different points in the game, only to realise towards the end I somehow failed at putting down an infestation pit.



SwampZero: you are really bad at this game.
SwampZero has left the game.
ESLTheBeard
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden44 Posts
September 30 2010 14:53 GMT
#305
Another ton of bricks will fall tonight as the titans of the Nordic once again knuckle bump and go into murderous battle. Tune in or sign up @ topic!

STREAM / SIGNUP / CHECK-IN 17:30 / BRACKETS
Tuke
Profile Joined January 2009
Finland1666 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-30 17:14:50
September 30 2010 17:05 GMT
#306
Is stream laggy for anyone else or is it just me? :/ Now stream is works perfectly.
TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #42
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
September 30 2010 17:11 GMT
#307
Yeah it's lagging for me too.
Kaitsuh
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland45 Posts
September 30 2010 18:06 GMT
#308
Morrow vs. Haypro is coming up soon.
Ozu
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden66 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-30 18:18:16
September 30 2010 18:06 GMT
#309
epic MorroW (Z) v HayprO (Z) bo3 coming up~

edit: or not, MorroW went back to T for this match.
Sneddo
Profile Joined August 2010
United States277 Posts
September 30 2010 18:22 GMT
#310
GO Morrow!
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-30 18:50:25
September 30 2010 18:35 GMT
#311
On October 01 2010 03:06 Ozu wrote:
epic MorroW (Z) v HayprO (Z) bo3 coming up~

edit: or not, MorroW went back to T for this match.


He said in the other thread about his zerg play that he would play terran in tournaments.

Edit: It is a sick game anyway. Thor canon vs bling ultra.
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
September 30 2010 19:01 GMT
#312
That was an awesome awesome game
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-30 19:21:25
September 30 2010 19:03 GMT
#313
Lol Kulas Ravine... Haypro forced to go Terran. That was an epic epic g2 though.
drooL
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2108 Posts
September 30 2010 19:04 GMT
#314
sick game there yeah.
@nowSimon
Uraeus
Profile Joined February 2008
France1378 Posts
September 30 2010 19:05 GMT
#315
Holy cow!!!! Everyone MUST watch Morrow (T) vs Haypro (Z) game 2 NOW!

Drawn out game with quite a few mistakes, ok, but sooo entertaining! Desert Oasis was almost mined out by the end of the game. It took a few 200/200 vs 200/200 battles to achieve that.
Seriously, that was a lot of fun. GG guys!
You are lucky I don't have a banhammer
wintergt
Profile Joined February 2010
Belgium1335 Posts
September 30 2010 19:08 GMT
#316
Yes that was an amazing game, hoping Haypro wins the bo3 now
here i am
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
September 30 2010 19:12 GMT
#317
On October 01 2010 04:05 Uraeus wrote:
Holy cow!!!! Everyone MUST watch Morrow (T) vs Haypro (Z) game 2 NOW!

Drawn out game with quite a few mistakes, ok, but sooo entertaining! Desert Oasis was almost mined out by the end of the game. It took a few 200/200 vs 200/200 battles to achieve that.
Seriously, that was a lot of fun. GG guys!
Yeah that was maybe the best sc2 game I have seen. EVER!
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
September 30 2010 19:13 GMT
#318
Man... Haypro would've won G3 if he brought all his SCVs for the counter attack. Meatshield scvs w/ stim marauders behind = gg. I guess he isn't experienced enough with Terran yet to make that call.
wintergt
Profile Joined February 2010
Belgium1335 Posts
September 30 2010 19:14 GMT
#319
On October 01 2010 04:13 teamsolid wrote:
Man... Haypro would've won G3 if he brought all his SCVs for the counter attack. Meatshield scvs w/ stim marauders behind = gg. I guess he isn't experienced enough with Terran yet to make that call.

HE woulda won if he pushed in immediately instead of waiting for morrow to get 2 banshees...
here i am
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
September 30 2010 19:17 GMT
#320
On October 01 2010 04:14 wintergt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2010 04:13 teamsolid wrote:
Man... Haypro would've won G3 if he brought all his SCVs for the counter attack. Meatshield scvs w/ stim marauders behind = gg. I guess he isn't experienced enough with Terran yet to make that call.

HE woulda won if he pushed in immediately instead of waiting for morrow to get 2 banshees...

Probably yes, but Morrow pulled a ton of scvs and had 2 tanks + full bunker up vs about 8 marauders, a bit harder to call. With SCVs, it'd be 100% win.
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