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-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
April 20 2010 01:10 GMT
#761
I don't get why you guys are saying you're not as hyped anymore knowing it won't be live...

What's the difference between it being live and it being a replay? Please explain it to me...

The only difference is that you can't cheat when it's a replay
'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
how sad that sc2 has no shield battery :(
Daedalus
Profile Joined April 2010
United States15 Posts
April 20 2010 01:30 GMT
#762
It is not something that I can put into words well.

If I DVR a football game, even if I keep myself from knowing anything about it, there is an energy missing knowing that the action is in the past. I have no idea if that kick is going in the goal, but it is slightly less exciting nonetheless.

The same thing happens for esports as well. A live match is more involving than a replay - for whatever the psychological reason.
The difference between genius and madness is degrees of success
HDstarcraft
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States577 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-20 01:37:31
April 20 2010 01:35 GMT
#763
On April 20 2010 10:30 Daedalus wrote:
It is not something that I can put into words well.

If I DVR a football game, even if I keep myself from knowing anything about it, there is an energy missing knowing that the action is in the past. I have no idea if that kick is going in the goal, but it is slightly less exciting nonetheless.

The same thing happens for esports as well. A live match is more involving than a replay - for whatever the psychological reason.



I know exactly what you mean. But unfortunately we have to take whatever measures necessary to ensure that players cannot cheat over livestream.

Until livestream institutes a delay function then this is the best we can do. Somebody brought up a great example being the TLI, and how they used replays to great effect.

Also I know you guys are all excited for this Wednesday, but keep in mind that that is simply the start date for matches to begin. Many players are actually planning to play during this weekend. In addition, livestream/vods are not officially scheduled yet. (But they will be soon)

I would guesstimate that the first games will be available for public viewing in about a week.
YouTube.com/HDstarcraft
DaggerRage
Profile Joined April 2010
United States30 Posts
April 20 2010 02:07 GMT
#764
That intro got me pumped.
MeruFM
Profile Joined February 2010
United States167 Posts
April 20 2010 03:03 GMT
#765
Bandwidth exceeded
Spend some of that 1st place money for a pro account :D
Jswizzy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States791 Posts
April 20 2010 03:11 GMT
#766
[image loading]

Go Panda Bear guy!
I always try to give a sensitive, reasoned answer. This is usually awkward, time consuming and pointless.
duckhunt
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada311 Posts
April 20 2010 03:15 GMT
#767
5 minute delay on the stream would solve everything

LOL nice pic jswizzy
Bear4188
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1797 Posts
April 20 2010 03:31 GMT
#768
Lol, reupload those brackets on imageshack
"I learned very early the difference between knowing the name of something and knowing something." - R. Feynman
gogogadgetflow
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2583 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-20 03:56:17
April 20 2010 03:48 GMT
#769
On April 20 2010 10:10 -orb- wrote:
I don't get why you guys are saying you're not as hyped anymore knowing it won't be live...

What's the difference between it being live and it being a replay? Please explain it to me...

The only difference is that you can't cheat when it's a replay

It simply loses the magic. I can't imagine having to watch something like the super bowl on even a 5 minute delay.

That said, I think a 5 minute delay would quash any stream abusers and would be very appropriate. I guess the only thing missing is a technical way to achieve this.

On April 20 2010 10:35 HDstarcraft wrote:But unfortunately we have to take whatever measures necessary to ensure that players cannot cheat over livestream.

this is very noble, but I think anyone low enough to cheat via stream abuse will probably just maphack as an alternative. sorry.
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
April 20 2010 04:10 GMT
#770
On April 20 2010 12:11 Jswizzy wrote:
[image loading]

Go Panda Bear guy!


that is seriously awesome
KTY
HDstarcraft
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States577 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-20 04:18:25
April 20 2010 04:18 GMT
#771

this is very noble, but I think anyone low enough to cheat via stream abuse will probably just maphack as an alternative. sorry.



True, but out of our control.
YouTube.com/HDstarcraft
PanzerDragoon
Profile Joined March 2010
United States822 Posts
April 20 2010 04:18 GMT
#772
On April 20 2010 10:35 HDstarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2010 10:30 Daedalus wrote:
It is not something that I can put into words well.

If I DVR a football game, even if I keep myself from knowing anything about it, there is an energy missing knowing that the action is in the past. I have no idea if that kick is going in the goal, but it is slightly less exciting nonetheless.

The same thing happens for esports as well. A live match is more involving than a replay - for whatever the psychological reason.



I know exactly what you mean. But unfortunately we have to take whatever measures necessary to ensure that players cannot cheat over livestream.

Until livestream institutes a delay function then this is the best we can do. Somebody brought up a great example being the TLI, and how they used replays to great effect.

Also I know you guys are all excited for this Wednesday, but keep in mind that that is simply the start date for matches to begin. Many players are actually planning to play during this weekend. In addition, livestream/vods are not officially scheduled yet. (But they will be soon)

I would guesstimate that the first games will be available for public viewing in about a week.

Do you have an overlay to cover up the replay progress bar? The replay progress bar itself is a spoiler

Plus it takes up so much extra space on a stream too =[
HDstarcraft
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States577 Posts
April 20 2010 04:23 GMT
#773
On April 20 2010 13:18 PanzerDragoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2010 10:35 HDstarcraft wrote:
On April 20 2010 10:30 Daedalus wrote:
It is not something that I can put into words well.

If I DVR a football game, even if I keep myself from knowing anything about it, there is an energy missing knowing that the action is in the past. I have no idea if that kick is going in the goal, but it is slightly less exciting nonetheless.

The same thing happens for esports as well. A live match is more involving than a replay - for whatever the psychological reason.



I know exactly what you mean. But unfortunately we have to take whatever measures necessary to ensure that players cannot cheat over livestream.

Until livestream institutes a delay function then this is the best we can do. Somebody brought up a great example being the TLI, and how they used replays to great effect.

Also I know you guys are all excited for this Wednesday, but keep in mind that that is simply the start date for matches to begin. Many players are actually planning to play during this weekend. In addition, livestream/vods are not officially scheduled yet. (But they will be soon)

I would guesstimate that the first games will be available for public viewing in about a week.

Do you have an overlay to cover up the replay progress bar? The replay progress bar itself is a spoiler

Plus it takes up so much extra space on a stream too =[



We're working on a solution to cover the replay progress bar. Already have a few ideas, just got to decide on which route to go. Rest assured, livestream/vods will not show the replay progress bar.
YouTube.com/HDstarcraft
EGLzGaMeR
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1867 Posts
April 20 2010 04:24 GMT
#774
On April 20 2010 12:11 Jswizzy wrote:
[image loading]

Go Panda Bear guy!

wow very cool pic
frumplejoon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States129 Posts
April 20 2010 05:07 GMT
#775
On April 20 2010 13:23 HDstarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2010 13:18 PanzerDragoon wrote:
On April 20 2010 10:35 HDstarcraft wrote:
On April 20 2010 10:30 Daedalus wrote:
It is not something that I can put into words well.

If I DVR a football game, even if I keep myself from knowing anything about it, there is an energy missing knowing that the action is in the past. I have no idea if that kick is going in the goal, but it is slightly less exciting nonetheless.

The same thing happens for esports as well. A live match is more involving than a replay - for whatever the psychological reason.



I know exactly what you mean. But unfortunately we have to take whatever measures necessary to ensure that players cannot cheat over livestream.

Until livestream institutes a delay function then this is the best we can do. Somebody brought up a great example being the TLI, and how they used replays to great effect.

Also I know you guys are all excited for this Wednesday, but keep in mind that that is simply the start date for matches to begin. Many players are actually planning to play during this weekend. In addition, livestream/vods are not officially scheduled yet. (But they will be soon)

I would guesstimate that the first games will be available for public viewing in about a week.

Do you have an overlay to cover up the replay progress bar? The replay progress bar itself is a spoiler

Plus it takes up so much extra space on a stream too =[



We're working on a solution to cover the replay progress bar. Already have a few ideas, just got to decide on which route to go. Rest assured, livestream/vods will not show the replay progress bar.


if you go the vod route with a site like youtube, don't forgot about the site's progress bar. i think MLG covered the replay bar in one of the matches, but youtube still showed the total video length so that kind of defeated the purpose of avoiding spoilers D=
Getz
Profile Joined April 2010
United States559 Posts
April 20 2010 07:03 GMT
#776
On April 20 2010 12:11 Jswizzy wrote:
[image loading]

Go Panda Bear guy!


haha awesome
스타크래프트
AlgeriaT
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden2197 Posts
April 20 2010 08:20 GMT
#777
On April 20 2010 13:23 HDstarcraft wrote:


We're working on a solution to cover the replay progress bar. Already have a few ideas, just got to decide on which route to go. Rest assured, livestream/vods will not show the replay progress bar.


Awesome.

Also, when you post the videos on youtube will you make sure to post blank anti-spoiler videos? I mean for those cases where there's say a best of five and the winner takes it in three wins straight, if there was only three vids posted for that particular matchup you would know after the first game who won it all.
CORN GIRL + Flash + FanTaSy + CholeraSC + iNcontroL 4 eva <3
HDstarcraft
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States577 Posts
April 20 2010 08:29 GMT
#778
On April 20 2010 17:20 AlgeriaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2010 13:23 HDstarcraft wrote:


We're working on a solution to cover the replay progress bar. Already have a few ideas, just got to decide on which route to go. Rest assured, livestream/vods will not show the replay progress bar.


Awesome.

Also, when you post the videos on youtube will you make sure to post blank anti-spoiler videos? I mean for those cases where there's say a best of five and the winner takes it in three wins straight, if there was only three vids posted for that particular matchup you would know after the first game who won it all.



If you check the vods section in the OP, you will see that it has already been setup
YouTube.com/HDstarcraft
yoshi_yoshi
Profile Joined January 2010
United States440 Posts
April 20 2010 09:01 GMT
#779
So awesome, almost here.

I agree that in the long term, tourneys should be randomized or set to some reasonably impartial seeding system. But I guess since it's an invitational, the game is still in beta, and it's the first big sponsored tourney, a little manufactured hype isn't bad.

Also, I hope you guys are going to be shameless about plugging IRip. Think Tasteless mentioning Blizzard every 5 seconds in GOMTV =P
bboy
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia30 Posts
April 20 2010 09:01 GMT
#780
cant wait - great matchups with great commentary in HD cool !
60% of the time, it works everytime
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