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The LotV Zerg Help Me Thread - Page 12
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guitarizt
United States1492 Posts
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qhg3w6u0zjlxdk1/Dusk Towers (120) zvp diamond no way to beat mass carrier 1.5x eco higher unit score.SC2Replay?dl=0 | ||
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
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ThePastor
New Zealand380 Posts
On January 06 2016 12:18 chipmonklord17 wrote: How do you guys larva inject? I currently have one control group with each individual queen + hatch but am looking to change my hotkey setup completely. I have tried many, I ultimately decided to go with the standard camera hotkey + box queen method. Most simple and effective imo. | ||
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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
On January 06 2016 13:57 ThePastor wrote: I have tried many, I ultimately decided to go with the standard camera hotkey + box queen method. Most simple and effective imo. Yeah, I had to resort to this as well. Much slower than the methods available in hots, but those cause too much wandering in lotv. :/ | ||
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Qwyn
United States2779 Posts
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NikaLogy
Denmark58 Posts
On January 06 2016 15:55 Cascade wrote: Yeah, I had to resort to this as well. Much slower than the methods available in hots, but those cause too much wandering in lotv. :/ Plenty of pros used the camera hotkeys in hots and wol because it eliminates potential queen messups that could happen with backspace or other methods. It is, without a doubt, the most controlled and secure way of doing it, and with a little practice it can be done in less than a second for each queen | ||
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guitarizt
United States1492 Posts
On January 06 2016 16:46 NikaLogy wrote: Plenty of pros used the camera hotkeys in hots and wol because it eliminates potential queen messups that could happen with backspace or other methods. It is, without a doubt, the most controlled and secure way of doing it, and with a little practice it can be done in less than a second for each queen I tried it out today, but it feels so weird to me. I'm using the old idra method with each queen on its own hotkey. It feels way better to me than using cameras and having to box. | ||
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MapleLeafSirup
Germany950 Posts
On January 06 2016 13:57 ThePastor wrote: I have tried many, I ultimately decided to go with the standard camera hotkey + box queen method. Most simple and effective imo. Can you explain how this works? | ||
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MapleLeafSirup
Germany950 Posts
On January 06 2016 10:01 guitarizt wrote: I have a rec zvp on dusk towers vs a 2 base carrier at diamond level. It's pretty straightforward and under 12m long. I have 2x his supply and he has 34 workers and I lose to 8 carriers. Do I have to just kill him before he gets past like 3 or it's impossible to win? I wanted to go mass hydra at first since I figured I was far enough ahead in eco, but then I was too gas starved to make corrupters. I was thinking hydra would be a better all around unit just in case he added in anything else, and I thought I'd kill so many interceptors that he'd run out of minerals. https://www.dropbox.com/s/qhg3w6u0zjlxdk1/Dusk Towers (120) zvp diamond no way to beat mass carrier 1.5x eco higher unit score.SC2Replay?dl=0 Didn't watch your replay but hydras are definitely the wrong choice. Killing him first sounds good but is quite difficult on some maps and also depends on when you scout his build. Quick hive tech is key, especially adrenalin zerglings and vipers. You need zerglings to deny expansions and counterattack when he moves out. This way you can delay, until you have vipers, upgraded curroptors and maybe mass spores. | ||
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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
On January 06 2016 17:37 guitarizt wrote: I tried it out today, but it feels so weird to me. I'm using the old idra method with each queen on its own hotkey. It feels way better to me than using cameras and having to box. You want to have camera hotkeys over your bases anyway, and an inject method that uses camera hotkeys helps you learn them. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On January 06 2016 10:01 guitarizt wrote: I have a rec zvp on dusk towers vs a 2 base carrier at diamond level. It's pretty straightforward and under 12m long. I have 2x his supply and he has 34 workers and I lose to 8 carriers. Do I have to just kill him before he gets past like 3 or it's impossible to win? I wanted to go mass hydra at first since I figured I was far enough ahead in eco, but then I was too gas starved to make corrupters. I was thinking hydra would be a better all around unit just in case he added in anything else, and I thought I'd kill so many interceptors that he'd run out of minerals. https://www.dropbox.com/s/qhg3w6u0zjlxdk1/Dusk Towers (120) zvp diamond no way to beat mass carrier 1.5x eco higher unit score.SC2Replay?dl=0 If you ever face a Protoss that is going 2 base air (you should be overseer scouting him), you should be able to just kill him with a corruptor/hydra/ling timing if he's waiting that long to take a third. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15927 Posts
On January 06 2016 20:36 Cascade wrote: You want to have camera hotkeys over your bases anyway, and an inject method that uses camera hotkeys helps you learn them. Personally I'm the most comfortable with camera hotkeys + 1 hotkey for all queens. | ||
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NikaLogy
Denmark58 Posts
You use camera location hotkeys to swap between bases while quickly boxing and injecting with the queen on the hatchery | ||
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
On January 07 2016 02:06 NikaLogy wrote: You use camera location hotkeys to swap between bases while quickly boxing and injecting with the queen on the hatchery Thank you this definitely seems to be the winner. How do you handle inject in the late game with 4 or 5 hatches? Or do you just inject the first few | ||
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Maxie
Sweden2653 Posts
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Beelzebub1
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On January 07 2016 07:12 Beelzebub1 wrote: How is anyone dealing with Phoenix play right now? Extremely frustrated, the Phoenix can pretty much always do guarenteed damage even with 3 spores down and Hydralisks are of course...light and massacred by the double shot. Best way is to go corruptors imo. You can also go infestors, but corruptors you can piss on their nexus  . | ||
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Beelzebub1
1004 Posts
On January 07 2016 07:44 blade55555 wrote: Best way is to go corruptors imo. You can also go infestors, but corruptors you can piss on their nexus .My problem is when they really commit to the Phoenix play and they can just stand over spores and snipe overlords, do you just have to have kind of like a preemptive Hydralisk group as soon as you see Stargate? Should you even sacrifice economy for the spores since they don't really do much against them anyways? | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
When it's 4 phoenix and they tank a few shots while killing some drones, nothing you can do to prevent it that would make sense. Overlord wise, make sure you have them all by spores and you shouldn't lose that many while waiting. I don't recommend going Hydra's, they are just shit in that situation as phoenix can lift and kill them. You can do it, but it's not a good option imo. Corruptors are the best bet, but you can do infestors as well. Those are the best ways to combat phoenix (with 2 spores per mineral line if 4 phoenix, if more make 3). | ||
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ThePastor
New Zealand380 Posts
On January 07 2016 04:56 chipmonklord17 wrote: Thank you this definitely seems to be the winner. How do you handle inject in the late game with 4 or 5 hatches? Or do you just inject the first few I go up to 5 base no problems; I could go up to ten theoretically but it isn't worth it for time efficiency or usage. Going higher then five bases for inject locations doesn't make sense since (IMO) it is too far away from your main base and too easy to snipe. Instead you are better having macro hatches next to your other hatches with their own queens. In which case you do not need a new camera location I use f1- f5 for my camera locations and use them for injecting. | ||
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