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The Formula to Good Ling-bane Micro

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PiGStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia987 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-05 05:22:58
March 05 2015 04:45 GMT
#1
Hopefully this video helps make clear that Ling-bane Micro isn't all about spamming your mouse really fast and practicing 8 hours-a-day. It's a lot about mechanical techniques that simplify the process and organising your troops properly.

A big thanks to Coberrac who edited this together beautifully! Check him out at: https://twitter.com/Coberra http://www.twitch.tv/coberrac/profile



Notes

Here's the notes that go along with my coaching of these points, I normally reserve them for paid coaching but I figure these are a great resource along with the video:

+ Show Spoiler +


Ctrl + shift re-organisation

  • 1) morph banes
  • 2) ctrl + shift to de-select the morphing banes
  • 3) ctrl + 1 to rehotkey your selection of zergling
  • 4) ctrl + click on the banelings
  • 5) ctrl + 2 to hotkey banelings


Standard battle column formation

  • 3 banes to kill a morphing bane, or 2 to kill a bane.
  • Spread out banes are always cost efficient
  • Only the queens and spines make them cost inefficient and the defensive banes
  • force them to split


Morphing in formation

  • Just clicking in the mineral line and micro-ing as you go
  • Just clicking the banelings into the mineral line
  • Focusing on microing lings
  • Only look at banelings as they reach the mineral line
  • just shift-click your banes onto drones so you can do other things


  • De-selecting lings onto banelings
  • Always morph your banelings outside of pressure or away from your opponent and immediately re-organise.



How to practice:
  • 14/14 1-base lingbane allin
  • Normal gas macro build - skip spine, stop drones at 28 and go nonstop endless waves of lings. Often takes several waves to break them.




P.S. Forgot to post this here! Can't neglect the amazing TL Strat for reddit! Sorry if you've already seen it posted up over there.
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A_Scarecrow
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia721 Posts
March 05 2015 10:22 GMT
#2
great info for zergs some of these things i dont do often like the congo line of banes
CrushingShadows
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada39 Posts
March 05 2015 11:37 GMT
#3
Great stuff, helped me completely re-think how banelings work in ZvZ. Thank you for this PiG!
zerg fanboy to the core Dark | soO | Hydra
Fkc)Bishop
Profile Joined April 2007
Peru82 Posts
March 11 2015 08:13 GMT
#4
Excellent tutorial!
"Lo que llaman talento no es otra cosa más que un arduo y continuo trabajo realizado correctamente"
BigRedDog
Profile Joined May 2012
461 Posts
March 11 2015 11:24 GMT
#5
thanks. This is very helpful!
Big Red Dog!
bri9and
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States246 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-11 22:55:52
March 11 2015 22:52 GMT
#6
This tutorial is so good I don't want to bump it and let others in on these incredible simple and effective tricks.

That being said it was so good I needed to bump it.. great video, thank you.

edit: please don't post this anywhere else.
I don't have time to play with myself
EndOfLineTv
Profile Joined February 2011
United States741 Posts
March 12 2015 12:17 GMT
#7
great guide!
Lucrania
Profile Joined December 2012
United States44 Posts
March 12 2015 19:16 GMT
#8
The hardest part of ZvZ is deciding if you are going to cheese and scouting that your oppopnent is cheesing.
Garemie
Profile Joined April 2011
United States248 Posts
March 12 2015 19:36 GMT
#9
I have to say, as a Terran it always feels like the zergs I play have such better micro potential for banes.

Bomber | CJ herO | Snute
spritzz
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada331 Posts
March 13 2015 01:42 GMT
#10
Thanks for the guide! I hope ladder isn't filled with 14-14 1-base lingbling all-in right now haha.
zugzug
Lobotomist
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1541 Posts
March 13 2015 19:19 GMT
#11
Really really like the point about spreading banes perpendicular vs parallel (to their direction of attack).

Also, when sending banes into their mineral line, watch out for well positioned queens and spines. If your banes all get caught on a mini wall before they get to the mineral lline and detonate on a queen, you're gonna have a bad time.
Teching to hive too quickly isn't just a risk: it's an ultrarisk
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
March 13 2015 20:13 GMT
#12
if you use ctrl to select banes and assign them to group 2, and THEN use ctrl+shift to ungroup them from group 1, you can do all the grouping from the UI directly, which is easier to not misclick.

as zerg, i don't think there's a reason not to group eggs directly to ctrl groups? i could be wrong
maru lover forever
Lobotomist
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1541 Posts
March 20 2015 20:59 GMT
#13
On March 14 2015 05:13 Incognoto wrote:
if you use ctrl to select banes and assign them to group 2, and THEN use ctrl+shift to ungroup them from group 1, you can do all the grouping from the UI directly, which is easier to not misclick.

as zerg, i don't think there's a reason not to group eggs directly to ctrl groups? i could be wrong

I group all larva into their respective control groups (except overlords). One thing I've noticed is that it's difficult to split off small groups to defend drops when you're used to having all your lings on certain hotkeys. I guess that's somewhat true of hotkeys in general, but without larva hotkeyed you can sometimes grab lings that are at the spawn rally to use for such a task.
Teching to hive too quickly isn't just a risk: it's an ultrarisk
PiGStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia987 Posts
March 21 2015 00:43 GMT
#14
On March 14 2015 05:13 Incognoto wrote:
if you use ctrl to select banes and assign them to group 2, and THEN use ctrl+shift to ungroup them from group 1, you can do all the grouping from the UI directly, which is easier to not misclick.

as zerg, i don't think there's a reason not to group eggs directly to ctrl groups? i could be wrong


Good point, whenever you can use the UI rather than on-screen it's much better, I've mainly just been doing (and teaching) it this way out of habit. I'll make sure to tell people to do it that way in future

As for eggs not directly in groups, only situationally when dealing with a lot of multi-prong/counterattacks or a basetrade at which point you want to be manually adjusting rally points and telling different units from different spawns to go in seperate directions.
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phantomfive
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)404 Posts
March 29 2015 22:01 GMT
#15
This helped me improve my ghost micro as terran
To ease another's heartache is to forget one's own - Lincoln
CanadianSC
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada53 Posts
March 29 2015 23:16 GMT
#16
pig is the man - someone give him more money
Zerg is a hard race. -DRG
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