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Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9590 Posts
November 17 2014 21:45 GMT
#81
I was sorely SORELY dissapointed that after that perfect protoss video when I scrolled down to zerg/terran, they didn't have similar videos in their sections.
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/user/LathamTK/builds/#view=CrqmP6
TwiggyWan
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
France342 Posts
November 17 2014 21:54 GMT
#82
Good article!

The fact that map diversity has to be (mostly) sacrificed in order to have balanced stats is somewhat sad to me tho.

But who cares i'll just 2rax all my games
No bad days
DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
November 17 2014 21:59 GMT
#83
TEOITA LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO:
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/471429-why-im-going-to-cheese-every-game#1

Looks like I will have to bring some fun builds back from the dead. I especially love the cannon rush locations you pointed out.
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
Tyrhanius
Profile Joined April 2011
France947 Posts
November 17 2014 21:59 GMT
#84
Will be most more interesting to make an article on how to counter these cheeses, the guys on the ladder don't really need some idea to decide to cheese.
PikA .
Profile Joined January 2014
Czech Republic5 Posts
November 17 2014 21:59 GMT
#85
I hate whoever's idea was to write this, this is even dumber than the tome of protoss bullshit.
Xinzoe
Profile Joined January 2014
Korea (South)2373 Posts
November 17 2014 22:13 GMT
#86
those cloud kingdom cannon rush spots. whoever designed this map..........
Jazzman88
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada2228 Posts
November 17 2014 22:16 GMT
#87
Fucking dammit Teoita. I hold you personally responsible for this Blink shit.

Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
November 17 2014 22:20 GMT
#88
On November 18 2014 07:13 Xinzoe wrote:
those cloud kingdom cannon rush spots. whoever designed this map..........


Fun fact: i discovered the one in the main by getting cannon rushed myself. It was awesome, rage inducing and horrifying at the same time.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10847 Posts
November 17 2014 22:21 GMT
#89
The sad thing is that maxing roach ,or roach hydra is pretty much a standard to stop all this bullshit, and it sucks because it is easy to stop , these maps are garbage and I am so mad that they brought all of them back.....the old map pool was so much nicer.....why does blizzard want people all inning more ....so stupid.......
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
rafaliusz
Profile Joined December 2009
Poland482 Posts
November 17 2014 22:29 GMT
#90
This isn't even funny.
miky_ardiente
Profile Joined May 2010
Mexico387 Posts
November 17 2014 22:35 GMT
#91
strategy game hehe
My anaconda dont want none... u know the rest
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5225 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-17 22:46:11
November 17 2014 22:44 GMT
#92
Why is there no 1-1-1 build?

The strength of the 1-1-1 was the map pool and short rush distances, the Nexus cannon doesn't change that if you include a Raven with PDD.

I'm certain it is impossible stop close spawns on Metalopolis. The first Banshee shows up at your base in essentially no time, and then tanks are sieging up your base only a few minutes later.
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8160 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-17 22:56:24
November 17 2014 22:56 GMT
#93
On November 18 2014 07:44 BronzeKnee wrote:
Why is there no 1-1-1 build?

The strength of the 1-1-1 was the map pool and short rush distances, the Nexus cannon doesn't change that if you include a Raven with PDD.

I'm certain it is impossible stop close spawns on Metalopolis. The first Banshee shows up at your base in essentially no time, and then tanks are sieging up your base only a few minutes later.


Metalopolis is forced cross spawn, or at least no close by air
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
November 17 2014 23:02 GMT
#94
i'm not sure what's better - the ladder tears of people who have just been bullshitted or the forum tears of people who think TL has a responsibility to push the macro meta down people's throats XD so nice

in all seriousness 3 vetoes is more than enough to make this pool fine for standard play
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Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8160 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-17 23:04:47
November 17 2014 23:04 GMT
#95
On November 18 2014 08:02 brickrd wrote:
i'm not sure what's better - the ladder tears of people who have just been bullshitted or the forum tears of people who think TL has a responsibility to push the macro meta down people's throats XD so nice

in all seriousness 3 vetoes is more than enough to make this pool fine for standard play


Because "Macro" play is actual skill, and not what gives you the win screen

this is sarcasm

IMO anything that gives you a win requires skill, be it macro or cheese
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
VArsovskiSC
Profile Joined July 2010
Macedonia563 Posts
November 17 2014 23:23 GMT
#96
@OP - you realize those are before the WMine buff and before Timewarp nerf, right ?
Another world, another place, another universe, won the race.. :) ;) :P
Survivor61316
Profile Joined July 2012
United States470 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-17 23:47:46
November 17 2014 23:47 GMT
#97
Ok a lot of these "old" build can still be used today, and some are harder to do on the older maps. Take the cannon rush illustration for example..yeah if you get that many pylons down to block paths to the cannons no shit its going to cancel/kill a hatch. The maps is the dream pool really aren't that bad or imbalanced on a whole. Just veto metal, shakuras, and xnc and the pool is pretty good imo.
Liquid Fighting
n1kon82
Profile Joined November 2013
Canada4 Posts
November 18 2014 00:20 GMT
#98
My God I hate this map pool.
Just cheese cheese cheese...
I won/lost all games by cheese. Haven't played a single normal game.
Who it the fucking right state of mind said "Hey this is good idea"??

And I love how ppl are talking about blink stalkers all-in as something imba.
Fucking SH have range from natural to natural...
All those moments will be lost in time like tears in the rain...
PROconstantine
Profile Joined April 2011
United States16 Posts
November 18 2014 00:25 GMT
#99
I really wish the community would attack itself from the inside less... LOL
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 18 2014 00:56 GMT
#100
I'll probably just use a lot of the cannon rushes
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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