[G] The Great Book of Protoss Bullshit - Page 15

On April 02 2014 22:14 DomeGetta wrote:
I just want to first open with this is an incredible thread lol! That picture is one of the best gifs I've seen lololol.
Anyways - I want to get on my soap box for just a few moments here about this type of play in general. Obviously it would be pretty rare for anyone from Blizz to read the comments on this post regardless of how glorious it is but I digress.

All of these brutal timings that exist in the game - (to which protoss has an incredible sum, zerg slightly less and terran probably the least) should be eliminated via nerf! Speaking strictly to the good of the game and not at all to balance: The existence of these timings add chaos to the game and minimize the impact of the skill of the players on the outcome.

The "standard" builds that develop now have to incorporate inefficient safe-guards against all of this (and yes people talk about scouting but scouting for every timing that can kill you is inefficient it is an investment and if your opponent chooses to ignore it you will be very behind).

Now - if pro A chooses to scout for the timings and play safe and pro B chooses to say fuck it and greeds out pro B definitely wins all things equal. If pro A chooses to execute the timings and pro B chooses to say fuck it and greeds out pro A definitely wins. The outcome is predetermined and not at all in the spirit of the game imo.

I understand the positive impact that early aggressive timings can have on the game and maybe not 100% of them should be nerfed out but there really shouldn't be so many. It really does take away the aspect that the better player wins more of the time (i.e. duckeduck / billowy type nonsense).

In the spirit of competition don't we want the best player (macro / micro / multitask) to be the winner more of the time? Not just the player who guessed right 2 out of 3 times on that particular day??

Pls help Blizz QQ (;D)

Anyways cool thread lol - having the knowledge of these builds will surely help my cheese defense but make my standard play safer / less efficient and winrate in macro games go down lol.

On April 03 2014 05:19 aZealot wrote:
Agreed. IMO, the game would be significantly worse off for the lack of bullshit.

On April 03 2014 07:25 SC2Toastie wrote:

It'd be more fair if all races had freewin cards to pull.
As it stands now, Protoss (the race with mostly the easiest to execute builds, can get away at most levels beneath the pro level turtling all game long into F2 a click (hyperbole)).

If the other races had the same kind of wonky shit that could work in a blue moon... But MSC and Sentry prevent pretty much every Terran/Zerg aggresive build from working verse Protoss.

Fact of the matter is, this guide is obviously a massive troll, but sadly, all these builds are viable and very strong.

In short, Protoss is easier compared to the other races below the pro level and the fact they also have these kind of freewin coinflip yolo builds is frustrating.

I get frustrated when rolling vs Protoss or as Protoss. vs Protoss because I know I'll be on my toes all game long for the moment he decides it's fun to get out of his natural, and as Protoss because it is just pretty damn boring.

Protoss needs to be able to move out on the map, because the army without collosi/templar/archon is way to weak to attempt a move out. Recall is a stupid bandaid. Mothershipcore, Collosi, Templar and Archon should be nerfed accordingly.
Tadam, Protoss can all of a sudden roam the map and is not so fucking infuriating to play as or against.
And maybe find some way to fix the way hidden buildings work.

To come back to the quote, no, the game wouldn't per se be worse off without a lot of these builds. The sad thing is, Protoss needs either these bullshit builds or turtleturtleturtle 15 sec fight gg because the entire race is poorly designed.