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[G] The Great Book of Protoss Bullshit - Page 15

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SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
April 02 2014 18:32 GMT
#281
Rofl hahaha
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
April 02 2014 18:43 GMT
#282
If you actually made this a book i think you would sell a lot of it . If i ever want to learn protoss i would probably buy it .
Mahtasooma
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany475 Posts
April 02 2014 19:43 GMT
#283
The best part about this is is that it's too true to be funny
http://twitch.tv/mahtasooma
shivver
Profile Joined June 2011
United States232 Posts
April 02 2014 19:52 GMT
#284
On April 02 2014 22:14 DomeGetta wrote:
I just want to first open with this is an incredible thread lol! That picture is one of the best gifs I've seen lololol.
Anyways - I want to get on my soap box for just a few moments here about this type of play in general. Obviously it would be pretty rare for anyone from Blizz to read the comments on this post regardless of how glorious it is but I digress.

All of these brutal timings that exist in the game - (to which protoss has an incredible sum, zerg slightly less and terran probably the least) should be eliminated via nerf! Speaking strictly to the good of the game and not at all to balance: The existence of these timings add chaos to the game and minimize the impact of the skill of the players on the outcome.

The "standard" builds that develop now have to incorporate inefficient safe-guards against all of this (and yes people talk about scouting but scouting for every timing that can kill you is inefficient it is an investment and if your opponent chooses to ignore it you will be very behind).

Now - if pro A chooses to scout for the timings and play safe and pro B chooses to say fuck it and greeds out pro B definitely wins all things equal. If pro A chooses to execute the timings and pro B chooses to say fuck it and greeds out pro A definitely wins. The outcome is predetermined and not at all in the spirit of the game imo.

I understand the positive impact that early aggressive timings can have on the game and maybe not 100% of them should be nerfed out but there really shouldn't be so many. It really does take away the aspect that the better player wins more of the time (i.e. duckeduck / billowy type nonsense).

In the spirit of competition don't we want the best player (macro / micro / multitask) to be the winner more of the time? Not just the player who guessed right 2 out of 3 times on that particular day??

Pls help Blizz QQ (;D)

Anyways cool thread lol - having the knowledge of these builds will surely help my cheese defense but make my standard play safer / less efficient and winrate in macro games go down lol.


all of this can be stopped with proper scouting, even smashed dare I say.

10 g 3 g for example is going to die to a toss going DTs in the proper manner, which is a safe expand.

if you get killed trying a 1 gate fe against a 10 g 3 g.. well then yeah, stuff like that SHOULD kill you
aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
April 02 2014 20:19 GMT
#285
Agreed. IMO, the game would be significantly worse off for the lack of bullshit.
KT best KT ~ 2014
dirtydurb82
Profile Joined December 2012
United States178 Posts
April 02 2014 21:56 GMT
#286
Protoss is only slightly unbalanced. But the unimaginable ease of doing these builds and beating players of a much higher skill level is ridiculous.
"The only way to grow E-Sports is to tell the truth." -Richard Lewis
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
April 02 2014 22:06 GMT
#287
I hate TL strategy now
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27464 Posts
April 02 2014 22:17 GMT
#288
I don't hate TL strategy, I hate laddering vs people who obviously have the time to learn these builds when I have at most a game or two a week
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
April 02 2014 22:25 GMT
#289
On April 03 2014 05:19 aZealot wrote:
Agreed. IMO, the game would be significantly worse off for the lack of bullshit.

It'd be more fair if all races had freewin cards to pull.
As it stands now, Protoss (the race with mostly the easiest to execute builds, can get away at most levels beneath the pro level turtling all game long into F2 a click (hyperbole)).

If the other races had the same kind of wonky shit that could work in a blue moon... But MSC and Sentry prevent pretty much every Terran/Zerg aggresive build from working verse Protoss.

Fact of the matter is, this guide is obviously a massive troll, but sadly, all these builds are viable and very strong.

In short, Protoss is easier compared to the other races below the pro level and the fact they also have these kind of freewin coinflip yolo builds is frustrating.

I get frustrated when rolling vs Protoss or as Protoss. vs Protoss because I know I'll be on my toes all game long for the moment he decides it's fun to get out of his natural, and as Protoss because it is just pretty damn boring.

Protoss needs to be able to move out on the map, because the army without collosi/templar/archon is way to weak to attempt a move out. Recall is a stupid bandaid. Mothershipcore, Collosi, Templar and Archon should be nerfed accordingly.
Tadam, Protoss can all of a sudden roam the map and is not so fucking infuriating to play as or against.
And maybe find some way to fix the way hidden buildings work.

To come back to the quote, no, the game wouldn't per se be worse off without a lot of these builds. The sad thing is, Protoss needs either these bullshit builds or turtleturtleturtle 15 sec fight gg because the entire race is poorly designed.
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
April 02 2014 22:53 GMT
#290
This is too legit to be april 1st, but anyway gl on liquibets.

As for terran, just 888 every game.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-03 01:29:44
April 02 2014 23:21 GMT
#291
On April 03 2014 07:25 SC2Toastie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 05:19 aZealot wrote:
Agreed. IMO, the game would be significantly worse off for the lack of bullshit.

It'd be more fair if all races had freewin cards to pull.
As it stands now, Protoss (the race with mostly the easiest to execute builds, can get away at most levels beneath the pro level turtling all game long into F2 a click (hyperbole)).

If the other races had the same kind of wonky shit that could work in a blue moon... But MSC and Sentry prevent pretty much every Terran/Zerg aggresive build from working verse Protoss.

Fact of the matter is, this guide is obviously a massive troll, but sadly, all these builds are viable and very strong.

In short, Protoss is easier compared to the other races below the pro level and the fact they also have these kind of freewin coinflip yolo builds is frustrating.

I get frustrated when rolling vs Protoss or as Protoss. vs Protoss because I know I'll be on my toes all game long for the moment he decides it's fun to get out of his natural, and as Protoss because it is just pretty damn boring.

Protoss needs to be able to move out on the map, because the army without collosi/templar/archon is way to weak to attempt a move out. Recall is a stupid bandaid. Mothershipcore, Collosi, Templar and Archon should be nerfed accordingly.
Tadam, Protoss can all of a sudden roam the map and is not so fucking infuriating to play as or against.
And maybe find some way to fix the way hidden buildings work.

To come back to the quote, no, the game wouldn't per se be worse off without a lot of these builds. The sad thing is, Protoss needs either these bullshit builds or turtleturtleturtle 15 sec fight gg because the entire race is poorly designed.


Heh, I disagree with most of what you have said. I think it would be difficult for you to be more wrong.

But, I doubt a discussion will get us anywhere. Nor is this the place for it.

Edit/ Just to be clear, by bullshit, I don't mean just Protoss bullshit. I mean all the bullshit in the game.
KT best KT ~ 2014
Xinzoe
Profile Joined January 2014
Korea (South)2373 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-03 00:01:05
April 02 2014 23:59 GMT
#292
87% PvT winrate so far with kill-a-terran-tasteless build
from 56% ---> 67% in less than 24 hours and about to get promoted to GM ( I THINK)
Isarios
Profile Joined March 2014
United States153 Posts
April 03 2014 01:33 GMT
#293
Can you add the parting immortal sentry all-in pvz for those of us who aren't good at it? =) And perhaps its smaller variant, the 2immortal all-in?
Blahhh
mykillandjello
Profile Joined November 2013
United States29 Posts
April 03 2014 02:16 GMT
#294
Day made!
What? You run out of Marines? --|Innovation the Great|
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
April 03 2014 02:27 GMT
#295
On April 03 2014 08:59 Xinzoe wrote:
87% PvT winrate so far with kill-a-terran-tasteless build
from 56% ---> 67% in less than 24 hours and about to get promoted to GM ( I THINK)


Teo will be ecstatic to hear that.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13430 Posts
April 03 2014 02:28 GMT
#296
On April 03 2014 11:27 Whitewing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 08:59 Xinzoe wrote:
87% PvT winrate so far with kill-a-terran-tasteless build
from 56% ---> 67% in less than 24 hours and about to get promoted to GM ( I THINK)


Teo will be ecstatic to hear that.


Even I'm happy :')
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
shivver
Profile Joined June 2011
United States232 Posts
April 03 2014 07:14 GMT
#297
the best part about this is from the toss perspective it reflects the current attitude we have to deal with on ladder.

if we win, it's because we're imba and noobs and w/e derogatory comments they have. If we lose then it's more flaming with less of the imba comments.

funny I hop on korea having not played terran for over a year and at diamond level there take out 17 out 20 protoss I come encounter with
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-03 07:21:57
April 03 2014 07:19 GMT
#298
The day will come when zerg rise again, and then it is no holds barred payback time.

But to be honest, in gold league where I currently play, I see no imbalance of any sort. Both my execution as well as of the opponent is too sloppy for any imbalance to factor in.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-03 08:00:47
April 03 2014 07:57 GMT
#299
i've never read anything more beautiful.
rip prime
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
April 03 2014 09:18 GMT
#300
On April 03 2014 07:53 Skynx wrote:
This is too legit to be april 1st.


Protoss is Blizzard's April Fool's Joke they prepped just for you guys <3
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
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