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JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-07 19:50:50
March 18 2014 18:31 GMT
#1
This Thread is for the discussion of the execution and various implementations of the Rapid Fire hotkey trick, found in custom hotkey layouts such as TheCore and Fleet Keys, originally brought to TL by eneyeseekay.

We will define Rapid Fire as the utilization of the keyboard's repeat rate in conjunction with keyboard bindings to gain an advantage in a game.



Bind an alternate to "Choose Abilily or AI target" that matches another command (such as spawn larva).



The command can be bound using an alternate (creating a less efficient layout)
or by aligning the keys that make use of rapid fire (creating a more efficient layout)

TheCore makes use of the latter and can be seen in TheCore Archive This is an example of the protoss layout. 5 alternates have been set for "Choose Ability or AI target" and the gateway units have been matched to those keys along with other abilities that benefit from rapid fire such as Snipe, Infested Terran, and Graviton Beam.

The current commands that can benefit from Rapid Fire are as follows:


*Spawn Larva




Parasitic Bomb



Warp-In




Recall




Snipe




Auto Turret, Point Defense Drone, and Seeker Missile




Spawn Creep Tumor




Feedback



Infested Terran
Graviton Beam
Corruption
Consume
Yamato Cannon
Contaminate
Abduct
Mule



*Rapid Fire inject is special in that it requires a keyboard that repeats multiple keys when pressed at the same time. The test to see if a keyboard is compatible with these two implementation can be found in the Rapid Fire Inject Video.



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hellokitty[hk]
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1309 Posts
March 18 2014 18:46 GMT
#2
I'm a protoss and I highly recommend pressing 1 key to remax
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SuperYo1000
Profile Joined July 2008
United States880 Posts
March 18 2014 19:39 GMT
#3
On March 19 2014 03:46 hellokitty[hk] wrote:
I'm a protoss and I highly recommend pressing 1 key to remax



welcome to zerg
eneyeseekay
Profile Joined March 2013
239 Posts
March 19 2014 01:53 GMT
#4
Nice work on setting this up, JaK the thread was looonnng overdue!
grimzreaper
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia2 Posts
March 19 2014 01:59 GMT
#5
So many choices. I remember watching your video on the mothership recall ability, hilarious, entertaining and potentially useful. I will have to check out all these other uses for this method as they sound amazing. Thanks for the post.
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
March 19 2014 14:47 GMT
#6
I agree eneyeseekay! I am very curious to see if there's more to be discovered about Rapid Fire. Esp using Smart Commands.

Glad you liked the rapid fire recall video grimzreaper. I certainly had a fun time making it

Anyone have questions or ideas for Rapid Fire?
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30454 Posts
March 20 2014 11:26 GMT
#7
qwwwwwwwwwwwwww

nope not for me. Nice guide though
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JessicaSc2
Profile Joined February 2014
Poland123 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-20 14:21:24
March 20 2014 14:21 GMT
#8
This Thread is for the discussion of the execution and various implementations of the Rapid Fire hotkey trick, found in custom hotkey layouts such as TheCore and Fleet Keys,


You can use in any hotkey set up if you set it up accordingly. Some other ideas I use it with:

mule - the problem is that it resets your worker rally, but it's still worth imo.

medevacs moving drop - when you're doing a doom drop it is sometimes awkward to click every medivac separatley. Using this method all you need it to hoover cursor at your medevacs while holding your ascribed key.


Great idea with the idle split trick, I will need to try it looks really good.


Another idea that actually works in a marine split challenge is to patrol move forward using rapid fire. It will get you to 15 lvl without doing literally anything. Unfortunatley it fails in real 1v1 because there are lings and thus your whole army stops.

velvex
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany226 Posts
March 20 2014 18:18 GMT
#9
On March 20 2014 23:21 JessicaSc2 wrote:
medevacs moving drop - when you're doing a doom drop it is sometimes awkward to click every medivac separatley. Using this method all you need it to hoover cursor at your medevacs while holding your ascribed key.

I've set this up for overlords, where it should be even more beneficial since Zerg drops are usually larger than Terran drops and because overlords are slower than medivacs so that just unloading on a single spot on the ground takes relatively long. Unfortunately, i never go for drops, so I have no practical experience with it.

What I do, however, is using rapid fire with the gather command. Nothing big, but it saves your mouse the frantic clicking when you pair workers. Also, it can make drone stacking it little easier, that is, the kind where you make several workers look like one.

Another thing I currently try to incorporate is the move command. With rapid fire you can, for example, get your banelings to wander around an opponent's spine while your zerglings are killing it, saving the banelings for more worthwhile targets.
ObiWanPwnobi
Profile Joined November 2010
United States30 Posts
March 21 2014 20:14 GMT
#10
My 6gv2 with black switches is having a hard time alternating keys. With USB connection I can do it very rarely, but with ps2 I haven't had any luck. Anybody know a fix?
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velvex
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany226 Posts
March 21 2014 23:44 GMT
#11
On March 22 2014 05:14 ObiWanPwnobi wrote:
My 6gv2 with black switches is having a hard time alternating keys. With USB connection I can do it very rarely, but with ps2 I haven't had any luck. Anybody know a fix?

I can say that I have the 6Gv2, too, and the only keys which I have found to be able to do this are F and G, using USB exclusively. Probably it just doesn't work with this keyboard. Not a big deal, in my opinion, I think I can do well without.
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
March 24 2014 00:42 GMT
#12
On March 20 2014 20:26 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
qwwwwwwwwwwwwww

nope not for me. Nice guide though


Just to make sure you know. You can use all of the rapid fire tricks except 2. (inject and worker split).

@JessicaSc2
Added Mule to the list. However Rapid Fire Unload is really dangerous. Its only useful if you're going for a moving drop, however if you move your mouse across a space in-between overlords or medivacs, it will unload on that spot with the entire CG and cancel the other potential moving drops that were working before.

Really interested in how you use rapid fire patrol to do marine split challenge. Video? or maybe just describe it in more detail?




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velvex
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany226 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-24 14:09:21
March 24 2014 14:08 GMT
#13
On March 24 2014 09:42 JaKaTaK wrote:
@JessicaSc2
Added Mule to the list. However Rapid Fire Unload is really dangerous. Its only useful if you're going for a moving drop, however if you move your mouse across a space in-between overlords or medivacs, it will unload on that spot with the entire CG and cancel the other potential moving drops that were working before.

Nope, not true. Dropships continue to move-drop even if you issue a drop order somewhere on the ground (just tested this). You actually have to do a stop command to cancel the move-drop.
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
March 29 2014 20:55 GMT
#14
woah, going to have to check that out and consider adding it into TheCore.
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13thNemesis
Profile Joined March 2013
Slovenia3 Posts
April 01 2014 16:36 GMT
#15
Sadly doesn't really work with Grid.. If someone has figured out a way to make it work with the GRID key-layout, please let me know =)
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JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
April 02 2014 21:33 GMT
#16
To do it with grid, you'd have to take a standard layout and customize it to the grid keys. Then make adjustments where necessary. For example you could use the spot for move command as a rapid fire key (since you probably never press it).
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Expir3d
Profile Joined November 2011
Spain17 Posts
June 10 2014 11:05 GMT
#17
Anyone with Filco Majestouch 2 or Ducky Shine 3 can confirm is larva inject works? If it does, which port you using to conect USB directly or through USB to PS2.

Thanks !
MSN
Profile Joined June 2013
Czech Republic53 Posts
June 11 2014 07:04 GMT
#18
Is any professional SC2 player using these ?
What, you run out of Marines ? ^^
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
June 11 2014 14:41 GMT
#19
absolutely. You can tell just by watching streams. esp rapid-fire warp-in
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wiltingroses
Profile Joined August 2011
1 Post
July 03 2014 00:40 GMT
#20
On June 10 2014 20:05 Expir3d wrote:
Anyone with Filco Majestouch 2 or Ducky Shine 3 can confirm is larva inject works? If it does, which port you using to conect USB directly or through USB to PS2.

Thanks !


Yes to all of the above. it will work with either USB or PS2. Most if not all mech keyboards can do two keys at once and that's all you need for the fast injects. If you want to learn more google N Key Rollover.
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