EPT[H] Mech vs Swarm Host - who is causing this? - Page 2
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
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llIH
Norway2147 Posts
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Everlong
Czech Republic1973 Posts
On October 22 2013 23:18 SC2Toastie wrote: I don't find asking opponente not to use a certain tool is good for the game, but well, if it works for you.......:-)! I'm testing new builds playing unranked currently facing master opponents, they are nice to me.. :-) | ||
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Everlong
Czech Republic1973 Posts
On October 22 2013 23:19 llIH wrote: Do strelok play mech TvP too? Yes, quite amazingly actually. | ||
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Siggeh
Norway71 Posts
It's more like Swarm hosts is the route u tech when u play vs a turtling mech terran. U know how hard it is to beat a late game mech / skytoss army without SH / brood lords?? Also attacking into mech is very hard, mech is very good for defencive play. Yes u can do some roach / hydra / viper timings but that's kinda risky and most pro's don't want to take this risk when there is a better option which is to sit and camp himself with SH. | ||
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Siggeh
Norway71 Posts
Mech and SH / Brood Lord play is both slow high power army which is good in straight up fights but both lacks the mobility of the other stylistic option. | ||
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On October 22 2013 23:19 llIH wrote: Do strelok play mech TvP too? Very well, actually! Mech vs Protoss works, but it's really hard to get a grasp on, because so much stuff can just kill you flat out. Among 'mechers' except Strelok I've recently seen Raven before Ghost. 3 Factory (2R1T) 2 Starport (2T) as the third gets established. | ||
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llIH
Norway2147 Posts
On October 23 2013 00:05 SC2Toastie wrote: Very well, actually! Mech vs Protoss works, but it's really hard to get a grasp on, because so much stuff can just kill you flat out. Among 'mechers' except Strelok I've recently seen Raven before Ghost. 3 Factory (2R1T) 2 Starport (2T) as the third gets established. Awesome. Will look for his stream! | ||
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Everlong
Czech Republic1973 Posts
Check his Vods, I believe there are really good mech games right now. He is currently like rank 3 GM. | ||
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Everlong
Czech Republic1973 Posts
On October 22 2013 23:57 Siggeh wrote: The swarm hosts causes u to play defencive u say? It's more like Swarm hosts is the route u tech when u play vs a turtling mech terran. U know how hard it is to beat a late game mech / skytoss army without SH / brood lords?? Also attacking into mech is very hard, mech is very good for defencive play. Yes u can do some roach / hydra / viper timings but that's kinda risky and most pro's don't want to take this risk when there is a better option which is to sit and camp himself with SH. Well in WoL there were some mech timings you could do. No there is nothing, because every aggresive move is shut down hardcore with Vipers and defensive play is shut down with Swarm Hosts. So you either need to turtle and slowly take base after base while accumulating Ravens, or allin with 2/3 base mech push (ala Flash). Since I don't like gimmicky "allin" strategies, I have no choice but turtle. I refuse to play bio, because I find it very stressful and harsh to my hands (I actually work as developer and I play drums in a band as my hobby so my hands take quite a beating every day). | ||
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On October 22 2013 23:57 Siggeh wrote: The entire idea of Siege Tanks is to be a powerful positional, defensive tool. They aren't that strong, but en masse, at least this they do. You shouldn't attack into mech, wait it out, pull it out of position, but being flabbergasted because you can't attack in there is weird.The swarm hosts causes u to play defencive u say? It's more like Swarm hosts is the route u tech when u play vs a turtling mech terran. U know how hard it is to beat a late game mech / skytoss army without SH / brood lords?? Also attacking into mech is very hard, mech is very good for defencive play. Yes u can do some roach / hydra / viper timings but that's kinda risky and most pro's don't want to take this risk when there is a better option which is to sit and camp himself with SH. On October 23 2013 00:00 Siggeh wrote: I think u can find some similarities with terran mech and turtle zerg. actually I would go as far as comparing brood lord / swarm host play with mech play. Bio / mine / medivac with muta / ling bane. Mech and SH / Brood Lord play is both slow high power army which is good in straight up fights but both lacks the mobility of the other stylistic option. They're not similar, courtesy of the production mechanics and Speed of the zerg supportive army. | ||
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Evaner
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