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EDIT: This guide is written for lower level players, if you are higher level I'd recommend just focusing on the BO's and the replays and avoid the pictures etc, they will not help you much.
Hello TeamLiquid,
This is a post for you protoss players out there who are looking to improve your game!
There are 15 guides in this PDF, 4 PvP Builds, 6 PvT Builds, and 5 PvZ Builds.
All of these builds are from my friend Believe who is consistently a top 50/16 grandmasters protoss.
Click Here To Download the PDF! (17.2MB)
Also, we've included replays that correspond to each guide in case you are confused on some things, some are vs some AI's but most are versus high master and grandmaster opponents.
Download the Replays Here (0.76MB)
All credit to the builds go to Believe, I just did the editing and the pictures and tried to make everything as clean and organized as possible, I hope you guys like it!
Shoot a tweet at John if you like his builds @LaGTTBelieve
Thanks, hope you guys enjoy it.
ToXSiK
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Nice but Believes been proven to hack and streamcheat, everyone hates him, so him trying to do this is nice but.... he's not going to get respect for it, he's too desperate aswell
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On August 26 2013 06:16 Batiste wrote:
Nice but Believes been proven to hack and streamcheat, everyone hates him, so him trying to do this is nice but.... he's not going to get respect for it, he's too desperate aswell
I know he has a bad rep but I don't think he hacks, do you have proof you could link me about it? Kinda a big accusation to make x.x
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Oh look, all-ins. That never happens.
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I'm a zerg player playing protoss from time to time for fun and this is awesome. I don't really care about the reputation of this Believe or why he did it, the truth is that it'll be really helpful so thanks a lot ToXSiK and Believe !
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I don't like the guides. Very little info that you could get from watching replays anyway. You should at least explain how to behave according to what your opponents are doing (well I know they are mostly all ins but still). Many sentences are repeated within the same guide. Also the pictures of the 1st pylon and gateway weren't really needed lol.
Well, thanks for the replays.
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Thanks for clarifying they are mostly All Ins, I was going to waste time downloading that -_-U
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I like the effort. But you shouldn't call it "The Ultimate Book for Protoss" when it's 90% all-ins.
+ Show Spoiler +Zippyshare seemed shady for the weirdest reason. The real download button looks like one of those fake download button ads. This is not the way the world should work, lol.
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Italy12247 Posts
The only player to ever beat me when i do the Oracle all-in is Apocalypse lol.
On a serious note, this is a good project but i'd like to see a little more effort from [G] threads. If i was to do this as a TL strat project (and i've considered doing something similar for a while), i'd do the following:
a) write this in the form of one (or several, perhaps one per matchup?) forum posts instead of a pdf
b) analyze the builds better, adding strenghts/weaknesses of each, good/bad maps, execution tips (say, how to deny scouting and secure pylon spots)
c) add pro vods
d) re format to be a little more readable.
A good example of a nice build collection is, of course, the pvz guide 
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On August 26 2013 23:03 Teoita wrote:a) write this in the form of one (or several, perhaps one per matchup?) forum posts instead of a pdf b) analyze the builds better, adding strenghts/weaknesses of each, good/bad maps, execution tips (say, how to deny scouting and secure pylon spots) c) add pro vods d) re format to be a little more readable. A good example of a nice build collection is, of course, the pvz guide
Don't you think your standards are a tad high, even for TL? Seriously, you've written how many guides? 
That said, yeah, it can definitely be better.
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Italy12247 Posts
Let's see...i wrote about a third of the PvZ guide (maybe a bit more), including the vast majority of the builds section, the wol and hots 2base templar guides, the mantrain guide, the 2/2/2 article, as well as most protoss build/game analysis articles. All in all i think that covers about 15/20 ish builds.
My standards are definitely high, but again, that's what i'd like to have in every thread in the recommended section. This guide as is is fine, but i don't feel like classifying it as a "must read", which is a pity because having a nice compilation of cheesier builds to look at for every matchup can be a great resource, and this compilation would be a nice place to start.
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On August 26 2013 23:06 Antylamon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2013 23:03 Teoita wrote:a) write this in the form of one (or several, perhaps one per matchup?) forum posts instead of a pdf b) analyze the builds better, adding strenghts/weaknesses of each, good/bad maps, execution tips (say, how to deny scouting and secure pylon spots) c) add pro vods d) re format to be a little more readable. A good example of a nice build collection is, of course, the pvz guide Don't you think your standards are a tad high, even for TL? Seriously, you've written how many guides? That said, yeah, it can definitely be better.
Meh So many half assed Guides out there... You should be thanking him for his high standards, it actually makes the strategy section an ok place again.
On topic: Always nice to have new builds up ones sleeve. But yeah, this is more advertising than a guide -_-
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On August 27 2013 00:12 Douillos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2013 23:06 Antylamon wrote:On August 26 2013 23:03 Teoita wrote:a) write this in the form of one (or several, perhaps one per matchup?) forum posts instead of a pdf b) analyze the builds better, adding strenghts/weaknesses of each, good/bad maps, execution tips (say, how to deny scouting and secure pylon spots) c) add pro vods d) re format to be a little more readable. A good example of a nice build collection is, of course, the pvz guide Don't you think your standards are a tad high, even for TL? Seriously, you've written how many guides? That said, yeah, it can definitely be better. Meh So many half assed Guides out there... You should be thanking him for his high standards, it actually makes the strategy section an ok place again.
Oh come on, I was making a joke.
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I dont see why the community is so against all ins. They are fun to do and when done right extremely powerful. Not every game has to be 20 min macro you know.
Good job ToXSiK and Believe ! Kudos
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Really cool stuff! I was planning on releasing something very similar to this myself. Send me a message so we can put them together as a complete project. I think that's best.
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On August 27 2013 01:50 Makuly wrote:
I dont see why the community is so against all ins. They are fun to do and when done right extremely powerful. Not every game has to be 20 min macro you know.
Good job ToXSiK and Believe ! Kudos
Because most players look for improve his gameplay based on a standard game, not just All In, and even if you are looking for All In you can learn few of them. Making a guide with almost 15 All In is kinda ridiculous IMO, or at least should change the title explaining it's an All In Compilation, so people don't get disappointed after thinking there are useful macro builds.
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Terran has one build which works in three matchups: 2rax
On topic: thanks for sharing i'm studying Protoss
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Italy12247 Posts
Eh yeah why not, i renamed the thread. Might as well.
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meh this is just quite mediocre (after looking at it more I realize it's just trash).
Collection of all-ins is nice but the writeup is really quite poor, basically it's just a collection of build orders by food with some useless pictures showing 13 gate, 15 double gas etc.
Also some of the all-ins are just quite lousy or practically counted double.
Blink stalker vs P or vs T is pretty much exactly the same, dt and charge all-in are pretty much the same etc.
Oracle all-in is quite odd, 1 oracle into voids is stronger and more common perhaps go into small deviations (why would you go with oracles instead of voids after the first if you want to all-in though)
chargelot archon all-in with 2-2 makes little sense,if you all-in forgo upgrades in favor of units mostly.. Upgrades are only really effective if aiming for the longer game or they are crucial for some timing.
PvT Templar opener doesn't fit in this game.
PvZ MC 7 gate is missing most stuff
PvZ immortal all-in guide and pictures don't mash at all. Guide speaks of some low gas zealot heavy variation with just 2-3 sentries (this is crap) while the pictures pretty much refer to immortal all-in like the soultrain.
6 gate all-in is referring to bunkers and seems like a PvT build but then shows pictures of PvZ..
tl;dr. Lousy formatting (can;t even click to get to a chapter), redundant pictures, no extra information besides summier build orders, lots of crappy stuff or stuff out of place and stuff just missing... There are few good builds in there but it's 10x better to follow Teoita's advice and make a one or a few guides in the form of post and focus on some builds, getting rid off the chaff.
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Look to improve your game? I dont think all-ining is the best way to improve your game.
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On August 27 2013 03:01 Teoita wrote:
Eh Yeah why not, i renamed the thread. Might as well.
Much better now, actually
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am i the only one who appreciates this?
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On August 27 2013 04:12 Rickyvalle21 wrote:
Look to improve your game? I dont think all-ining is the best way to improve your game.
The best pros know how to all-in the best too.
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On August 27 2013 04:12 Rickyvalle21 wrote:
Look to improve your game? I dont think all-ining is the best way to improve your game.
All the top Protoss players, in terms of achievements, began doing almost solely all-ins and continue to mix them heavily into their game... MC, Huk, Naniwa, Parting... they are the top #4 in terms of achievements.
But as with any build, you need to drill these and practice them heavily to fully understand them. I've never seen anything in terms of complete guide to any build order that tells you what to do in every given situation.
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People need to chill about this all in build... That is how players develop by practicing builds. Writing it in word and adding pictures though make it look sloppy but overall its BUILD ORDERS. I like it, thank you for putting the time into this!
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On August 26 2013 06:16 Batiste wrote:
Nice but Believes been proven to hack and streamcheat, everyone hates him, so him trying to do this is nice but.... he's not going to get respect for it, he's too desperate aswell
Believe has never hacked or stream cheated lol. Please back up any acquisition with proof please before posting
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On August 26 2013 06:38 ToXSiK wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2013 06:16 Batiste wrote:
Nice but Believes been proven to hack and streamcheat, everyone hates him, so him trying to do this is nice but.... he's not going to get respect for it, he's too desperate aswell I know he has a bad rep but I don't think he hacks, do you have proof you could link me about it? Kinda a big accusation to make x.x
TubbyTheFat was streaming and showed 7 games in a row vs him and in replay, Believe counters Tubbys build in all 7 games with out scouting
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can someone mirror the pdf on googledocs or repost text here?
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On August 28 2013 09:53 Batiste wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2013 06:38 ToXSiK wrote:On August 26 2013 06:16 Batiste wrote:
Nice but Believes been proven to hack and streamcheat, everyone hates him, so him trying to do this is nice but.... he's not going to get respect for it, he's too desperate aswell I know he has a bad rep but I don't think he hacks, do you have proof you could link me about it? Kinda a big accusation to make x.x TubbyTheFat was streaming and showed 7 games in a row vs him and in replay, Believe counters Tubbys build in all 7 games with out scouting
Still no factual evidence against the accusation.
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Well, this is on topic. And productive.
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On August 28 2013 06:22 Xonix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2013 06:16 Batiste wrote:
Nice but Believes been proven to hack and streamcheat, everyone hates him, so him trying to do this is nice but.... he's not going to get respect for it, he's too desperate aswell Believe has never hacked or stream cheated lol. Please back up any acquisition with proof please before posting
I doubt they got receipts
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On August 27 2013 04:12 Rickyvalle21 wrote:
Look to improve your game? I dont think all-ining is the best way to improve your game.
Alright IdrA, but you should take a look at any pro level protoss and understand that at least half of their games, if not more, are considered 'all in' builds. It's how the race was designed because of the warp game mechanic and is honestly the best way to play it too (imo)
OH AND sorry guys, I forgot to note in the OP that this guide is directed for lower level players, maybe diamond and under!
The wording is simple and the guide was actually designed for a Gold league student of mine that promised me money for it and then didn't pay because I stupidly sent him the guide first! :D:D:D
Anyways hope that clears it up a bit, I'll edit the OP.
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On August 29 2013 16:25 ToXSiK wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2013 04:12 Rickyvalle21 wrote:
Look to improve your game? I dont think all-ining is the best way to improve your game. Alright IdrA, but you should take a look at any pro level protoss and understand that at least half of their games, if not more, are considered 'all in' builds. It's how the race was designed because of the warp game mechanic and is honestly the best way to play it too (imo) OH AND sorry guys, I forgot to note in the OP that this guide is directed for lower level players, maybe diamond and under! The wording is simple and the guide was actually designed for a Gold league student of mine that promised me money for it and then didn't pay because I stupidly sent him the guide first! :D:D:D Anyways hope that clears it up a bit, I'll edit the OP.
This is such total nonsense lol, check recent pro play first... You don't see much all-in play anymore really, certainly less than 30% of the games. PvT P pretty much always takes it to late game, PvP is getting more and more expo play and PvZ is seeing a lot of 3 base play.. Playstyles like first and rain just solid defense with some harassment and going for the lategame are more popular now. Still all-in play is of course a crucial part to know well though saying the race was designed for it because of warpgate is total nonsense..
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some of the guides are odd to read as in you say get +2 but there is no mention of +1, its a good start though, also if u do it again dont do the reps against the ai, its stupid and doesnt really get detection.
another build u dont mention the pylons and cyber core, pvt i think it was (on phone cant check)
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Got bit frustrated with Zerg recently and decided to check one of the builds in this one. I kinda like this general overview of rather viable builds to inspire strategic adjustments. Nevertheles, just wanted to point out that the one build I cheked was "6 gate all-in" against Z was actually a 5 gate. Moreover, you do not have to really fear the zerg throwing bunkers (I guess?) to defend. Anyway, I think the guide is actually helpful but just somewhat inconsistent.
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If ony there was something like this for Terran and Zerg.. It doesn't necessarily has to be only all-ins, but general openers and like 1-2base basic strategies. Nice work, gonna get some cheap wins now on ladder. :-)
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Does the 7 gate all in actually still work? Or is it heavily reliant on the zerg getting their Roach Warren late?
Also - the hellokitty +2 7 gate blink all in with zealot pressure I think is still a strong build.. Espeically with the Mothership core now.
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I'm not pointing any fingers here, but I need to ask if anybody else received a virus after downloading this guide?
The night I downloaded this, a file "taskhost.exe" was placed on my computer and now eats up 50% of my cpu. If anyone else noticed this after downloading this file, please let me know.
The only two things I downloaded that day are this file and the MMR calculator, but it could just be a coincidence and be neither of those.
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All-ins are a legit way to play. And you can improve your play greatly by learning all-ins and learning to do them well. Protoss it's probably the race with the most varied and strongest all-ins, so i think it's great to learn Protoss all-ins. Pros are really good at all-ins too.
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