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On June 15 2013 04:49 JayPower wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2013 02:57 Warboss wrote: Anyone got some replays?
Much rather observe these in-game then vods. I made a small replay pack for the stargate version: http://drop.sc/packs/1460 Thanks!
Will study, would +rep but this is teamliquid what am i talking about. xD
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On June 14 2013 06:36 dUTtrOACh wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2013 04:10 lorestarcraft wrote: I think this build is designed for a meta that no longer exists, at least on ladder. I want a guide to stop fast (15-20 min) Ultra maxes. This should hit before any 15-20min hive-tech window even begins to open. My comments were not related.
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Italy12246 Posts
The thing with TL strat releases is, it's basically impossible to release replays of the strategies we write about because our policy is to only reference professional games, and these days very very few tournaments release replay packs.
For this article in particular, i personally took a look at the Dreamhack replay pack (afaik the only one released in hots so far by a major tournament), but there were zero games with this build.
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On June 15 2013 07:40 Teoita wrote: The thing with TL strat releases is, it's basically impossible to release replays of the strategies we write about because our policy is to only reference professional games, and these days very very few tournaments release replay packs.
For this article in particular, i personally took a look at the Dreamhack replay pack (afaik the only one released in hots so far by a major tournament), but there were zero games with this build. That make's a lot of sense.
We need hero to use this build a couple times for his next pack. ^.^
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On June 14 2013 06:12 ggOeHondaHHS wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 04:11 graNite wrote: great, another protoss allin.... so lame, try to bring some fun to the ladder, not this useless crap! all ins are fun! : D
That's only when you are the one doing it I think ? I would like to see you after a succesful 10 pool.... Probably raging on the Zerg for being a "Nub".
Anyway, I have some Protoss friends, and they all whine that they have to all-in so much, I say F-you. You don't need to all-in as Toss, you just choose too...... I get that with the way you are fed all-in strategies, you would think you didn't have another choice ( Not all toss play all-in, I know ).
I would just like to express my gratitude to all the TL. strategy writing staff; You guys are doing a great job.... ( insert Kappa )
Edit: Also I don't think we will see anything other than Protoss soon
On May 13 2013 17:20 Teoita wrote:
Also lies, we are so not gonna write about races that aren't manly.
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On June 15 2013 11:26 5p4z3n3k0 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2013 06:12 ggOeHondaHHS wrote:On June 12 2013 04:11 graNite wrote: great, another protoss allin.... so lame, try to bring some fun to the ladder, not this useless crap! all ins are fun! : D That's only when you are the one doing it I think ? I would like to see you after a succesful 10 pool.... Probably raging on the Zerg for being a "Nub". Anyway, I have some Protoss friends, and they all whine that they have to all-in so much, I say F-you. You don't need to all-in as Toss, you just choose too...... I get that with the way you are fed all-in strategies, you would think you didn't have another choice ( Not all toss play all-in, I know ). I would just like to express my gratitude to all the TL. strategy writing staff; You guys are doing a great job.... ( insert Kappa ) Edit: Also I don't think we will see anything other than Protoss soon Show nested quote +On May 13 2013 17:20 Teoita wrote:
Also lies, we are so not gonna write about races that aren't manly.
You see, my friends?
“Sing, goddess, of [his] ruinous anger Which brought ten thousand pains to the Achaeans, And cast the souls of many stalwart heroes To Hades, and their bodies to the dogs And birds of prey.“ *
"If you have read the classics, you might think that the above passage refers to Homeric Achilles. Nay; this is an account of your Zerg ladder opponent's blistering rage as he fell fodder to the fabled Magic Johnson."
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On June 15 2013 11:37 JSK wrote: You see, my friends?
“Sing, goddess, of [his] ruinous anger Which brought ten thousand pains to the Achaeans, And cast the souls of many stalwart heroes To Hades, and their bodies to the dogs And birds of prey.“ *
"If you have read the classics, you might think that the above passage refers to Homeric Achilles. Nay; this is an account of your Zerg ladder opponent's blistering rage as he fell fodder to the fabled Magic Johnson."
If you are refering to me.... I'm Terran.... <<<--- srry its late for me im going to sleep nvm !
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i love TL, but their protoss only strats suxx
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this build is so imba I'm in love with it. probably the only thing balancing pvz winrates imo on ladder. 2 zergs today have been like "EVERY FUCKING GAME TODAY" and then leaving ![](/mirror/smilies/wink.gif)
thank you tl strategy :D
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Trap did a variant of this build @ OSL yesterday, good shit
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With the game Soulkey vs Parting game 5, the only way i have lost with this build is muta ling play, either they base trade or snipe reinforcing pylons and overwhelm. It seems like the muta play/response isn't touched on much, anyone have an appropriate response in handling/identifying mutas, 8 sentrys really digs into the gas count for stalkers.
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Would be good if OP had more detail in the build for gold newbs like me to execute. Like the stargate one says make SG but skips saying 4 pheonix's to be built then make robo. T_T
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Italy12246 Posts
You shouldn't have to cut phoenix production to get your robo up. If you have to, you aren't hitting the timings mentioned in the OP and the problem is your macro and opening, not the build order.
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Do the phoenix have to do damage/ how much damage do they have to do in order to give oneself an advantage?
The this thing says that for a macro game, approximately 1k of resources is required damage to be dealt to stay in the game economically; I was wondering if that was the same for this?
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