EPTOn June 03 2013 14:19 freizya wrote:
Could I also get a vod of that build/ bo?
Could I also get a vod of that build/ bo?
Parting vs Flash on Daybreak. You get the archives as soon as gas allows after you start charge and +2 armor.
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Teoita
Italy12248 Posts
Parting vs Flash on Daybreak. You get the archives as soon as gas allows after you start charge and +2 armor. | ||
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BCNMusic
United States36 Posts
Toss: Terran: Zerg: | ||
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On June 03 2013 19:49 BCNMusic wrote: When is a good time to get your third against? Toss: Terran: Zerg: There's no general answer to it. Depends on what playstyle and what strategy you prefer and also strongly how your opponent playes. There really is no answer to it that would be correct in even 50% of the cases I guess. | ||
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Salivanth
Australia1071 Posts
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hipo
France482 Posts
On June 03 2013 20:31 Salivanth wrote: What would be a good VOD or replay to check out the 1-Gate FE into 28-probe Immortal bust in PvT? It seems really powerful since Terran is safe 95% of the time after seeing a fast expand, so I can mix it into a Bo3 to surprise a likely unprepared opponent. Check Jangbi vs Flash on Akilon Wastes [PL R4 Khan vs KT]. Small recap of the build order used by Jangbi in this game: 9: Pylon 13: GATE 14: Gas 16: Pylon 18: Cybernetic Core 18: Gas 20: Zealot (to be canceled if no ebay block at your natural) @100% Cybernetic Core: Stalker, then WG, then MC Pylon Stalker (then 2 x Sentries) NEXUS Pylon ROBOT GATE x 2 @100% Robot: 2 x Immortal (CB) Gas at natural Jangbi pushed with 5 sentries, 2 Immortal, 2 Stalkers and 3 Zealots. Then he transitioned into double forge, TC, 3 additional gate then TA and Storm. | ||
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samuu
Germany13 Posts
I think this 2 Base Push wich looked like an allin for Ryung and the 3 base Templar-Koloss-Follow up was amazing. | ||
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SorrowShine
698 Posts
Does anyone have a State PvP build order from Day 9 Dayly 589 http://day9.tv/d/Day9/day9-daily-589-wcs-replay-analysis/ thanks User was warned for this post | ||
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HelpMeGetBetter
United States766 Posts
Also, when a player get promoted to a new league, does that mean another player get demoted? | ||
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freizya
United States223 Posts
On June 03 2013 17:32 Teoita wrote: Parting vs Flash on Daybreak. You get the archives as soon as gas allows after you start charge and +2 armor. ive tried searching for the replay, but just find game summaries. Would you happen to have a vod? | ||
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
On June 04 2013 05:32 freizya wrote: ive tried searching for the replay, but just find game summaries. Would you happen to have a vod? Gomtv.net , you need a GSL pass, was in Group B | ||
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freizya
United States223 Posts
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freizya
United States223 Posts
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SkyBlaze
Canada191 Posts
On June 04 2013 05:46 freizya wrote: is this first unit out of robo a warp prism, or observers? what match up? and in what situation? | ||
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Luminex
Germany4 Posts
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LardMaster
United Kingdom123 Posts
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RabidSeagull
United States220 Posts
On June 05 2013 00:02 LardMaster wrote: Hey guys I've been doing a 10 gate cheesy build against Terran (without a BO and with pretty bronze control as I've just come back and am casual atm) and haven't lost with it yet. However my opponents didn't react very well tbh. Anyway, I was here to ask if you think 2 zealots and then start stalkers or only 1 zealot is better, or if it depends on the terran opening? The gist of the build is 10 gate --> pressure with chrono'd out units --> get warpgate while doing this and then add 2 more gates. Stay on around 14 probes. Also general feedback on how viable this build might be in the future would be nice, as I've said I'm winning with it at the moment but wonder if it's just a meta thing, as is mostly destroys reaper openings. Here's rep if you're interested to see and I would be happy for any feedback Hey LardMaster, I decided to watch your replay hopefully I can help a little. First, I think your build order doesnt quite make sense, your gas is a bit early and your cyber isn't right after your gate so you end up floating gas. You can still chorno out 2 zealots and a stalker with a later gas., make sure to plop down a cyber right after the gate tho. Also, make sure to spend CB right away, in early pressure builds its really important to get your units out fast you end up floating like 70 energy which is bad. Additionally, it seems like the Terran player didn't really know what to do against your build as he was floating almost 700 minerals at the 5 min mark and even tried to block your natural with an eng bay, which leads me to believe that he misread your early gate as you trying to expand (not sure how). If he simply scouted you and put up a bunker behind his wall I think you would have had a lot more difficulties. He also forgot to burrow his first widow mine which would have probably resulted in you losing your first two stalkers. If you're having fun chronoing out early units then by all means keep doing it I just have a feeling it's going to stop working once you face more experienced opponents. Maybe try out a pressure expand build so you have something to fall back on if the Terran defends better (ie makes more than 5 marines the whole game haha). Something like: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409210 or http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2_Gate_Pressure_Expand_(PvT) or for 1base http://www.gosubuilds.com/hots-protoss/hots-pvt/pvt-sages-blink-all-in/ | ||
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LardMaster
United Kingdom123 Posts
On June 05 2013 02:58 RabidSeagull wrote: Hey LardMaster, I decided to watch your replay hopefully I can help a little. First, I think your build order doesnt quite make sense, your gas is a bit early and your cyber isn't right after your gate so you end up floating gas. You can still chorno out 2 zealots and a stalker with a later gas., make sure to plop down a cyber right after the gate tho. Also, make sure to spend CB right away, in early pressure builds its really important to get your units out fast you end up floating like 70 energy which is bad. Additionally, it seems like the Terran player didn't really know what to do against your build as he was floating almost 700 minerals at the 5 min mark and even tried to block your natural with an eng bay, which leads me to believe that he misread your early gate as you trying to expand (not sure how). If he simply scouted you and put up a bunker behind his wall I think you would have had a lot more difficulties. He also forgot to burrow his first widow mine which would have probably resulted in you losing your first two stalkers. If you're having fun chronoing out early units then by all means keep doing it I just have a feeling it's going to stop working once you face more experienced opponents. Maybe try out a pressure expand build so you have something to fall back on if the Terran defends better (ie makes more than 5 marines the whole game haha). Something like: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409210 or http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2_Gate_Pressure_Expand_(PvT) or for 1base http://www.gosubuilds.com/hots-protoss/hots-pvt/pvt-sages-blink-all-in/ Thanks I know my build wasn't optimal I literally just built things as I went along, and I haven't played in a while so that's why it was all around bad play  Thanks again | ||
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Zuthos
United States4 Posts
Thanks I know my build wasn't optimal I literally just built things as I went along, and I haven't played in a while so that's why it was all around bad play Thanks againHey. I tend to open up 1 zealot 1 stalker + Mother Core, and I try to use these to walk straight to his base, if he reapers, I deal with it with my probes until second stalker gets out. With the Moco, Zealot, and stalker, I try to deal as much damage as I can. If he somehow doesn't have bunker up in time, I can do a LOT with just these 3 units. Behind this I drop a Nexus, 2 gates a forge and a twilight. If I deal damage, I double forge. If I don't, single forge. I then tech to HT's and use Chargelot Archons until I can get storm and some HT's with energy. I take my third whenever I can (It's hard to describe, depends on how you deal with drops / what your opponent is doing) and slowly make my way up to Collosus, as I drop a robo before third and get some obs out on the map. And then it's a standard Zealot, Archon, HT, Collosus PvT where you try to take good engagements and kill vikings with stalkers, dodge ghosts, feedback everything, and storm storm storm.... So you could try to do that instead of your 10gate. | ||
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shivver
United States232 Posts
I'm actually just tired of losing to the 6 medivacs, 2 dropping my main others hitting my third | ||
Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On June 05 2013 05:43 shivver wrote: teoita your thoughts on state's style of PvT where he goes blink before anything and uses zealots/sentries at the front to delay for collosus? I'm actually just tired of losing to the 6 medivacs, 2 dropping my main others hitting my third That's not exactly State's build. It is decent however if you have good control. Can be tricky though if terran figures out what you're doing and starts running in, burning forcefields and picking up without losing much. That's why you'll see players like HerO be extremely aggressive with their blink stalkers, trading shields for a unit here or there and delaying the terran pushout for as long as possible while getting double forge + either colossus or templar. | ||
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