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azngamer828
Profile Joined July 2008
United States137 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-28 00:52:54
September 28 2013 00:46 GMT
#3541
i see demuslim going more hellbats than mines against zerg
is there a reason why?
arent mines a better choice?

unrelated question...
again going back to demuslim's stream,
in the beginning when he spams workers to minerals...
how do you make the minerals "splash"

the second part im just really curious because i want that too haha
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Doc Brawler
Profile Joined November 2011
United States260 Posts
September 28 2013 05:12 GMT
#3542
Not sure about the mineral splash? but it might be the return cargo button for scvs? Im actually curious now!
I am become Death, the Destroyer of Worlds
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
September 28 2013 06:52 GMT
#3543
Is there any general guide on how to play mech in TvT? I was searching the strategy portal and the op of this thread, but couldn't find anything. Even the Terran Mech Resources thread lists nothing and Strelok streams too little... ;;
mygodsnameiskyle
Profile Joined June 2013
Canada33 Posts
September 28 2013 19:11 GMT
#3544
Same here... I have my tvt build of
12-rax
15-refinery
17-oc
20- cc
21-factory
-starport
drops of hellions and marines

but this doesn't really work late game. If I can finish them with one or 2 battles then I have it but if not, I struggle to switch to tanks and such. Is there a replay I can watch?
"Believe in yourself" - Day[9]
Marathi
Profile Joined July 2011
298 Posts
September 28 2013 23:52 GMT
#3545
On September 28 2013 09:46 azngamer828 wrote:
i see demuslim going more hellbats than mines against zerg
is there a reason why?
arent mines a better choice?


It seems as though a lot of Zerg players are getting the knack of playing vs bio/mine, plus with the proposed mine nerf he is probably just exploring other options.

People forget that hellbats are still pretty strong with bfh, especially against ling/bling. Though a lot weaker vs roaches and ofc muta...
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A Wild Sosd
Profile Joined September 2012
Australia421 Posts
September 29 2013 00:35 GMT
#3546
On September 29 2013 04:11 mygodsnameiskyle wrote:
Same here... I have my tvt build of
12-rax
15-refinery
17-oc
20- cc
21-factory
-starport
drops of hellions and marines

but this doesn't really work late game. If I can finish them with one or 2 battles then I have it but if not, I struggle to switch to tanks and such. Is there a replay I can watch?

To switch to tanks just lift the factory from the reactor make a techlab on the factory and the rax get stim and start tanks. Add on extra rax an ebay and a 3rd cc then you just start making marines and tanks.
As far as replays go there should be some WCS ones, will have a look and edit this post if I find one.
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iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
September 29 2013 01:38 GMT
#3547
On September 29 2013 08:52 Marathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 09:46 azngamer828 wrote:
i see demuslim going more hellbats than mines against zerg
is there a reason why?
arent mines a better choice?


It seems as though a lot of Zerg players are getting the knack of playing vs bio/mine, plus with the proposed mine nerf he is probably just exploring other options.

People forget that hellbats are still pretty strong with bfh, especially against ling/bling. Though a lot weaker vs roaches and ofc muta...

He used to bio hellbat. He never seemed to do well lately in TvZ with bio mine. Glad he's going back to bio hellbat, it's still sick.
Unbiased biased terran abuser Jeffrey. Sorry for the rage, friend!
Pirfiktshon
Profile Joined June 2013
United States1072 Posts
September 29 2013 03:40 GMT
#3548
Ben said that he was going hellbat because his FPS is extremely low when he streams so his micro is not good enough to compete with mines..... Which is something he said on stream ahhaha
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
September 29 2013 05:42 GMT
#3549
Considering he plays medium/high settings with very little lag from his end, I highly doubt it's his frame rate.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Nimix
Profile Joined October 2011
France1809 Posts
September 29 2013 06:07 GMT
#3550
About the mineral splashing thing (or at least what I understand you're asking about), he plays with effects on ultra, which is what makes the particle effect on minerals especially noticeable. This is also probably the cause of his lack of FPS as the effects setting is CPU bound, and definitely reduces FPS even without streaming.
I never really liked mines either, as they feel too random to me (it's really hard to predict which amount of stuff they're gonna kill, and where and how, and if they are not going to blow up half your own army). The style HeroMarines was using on his stream seemed pretty good (Hellbat/thors/bio), and might be a good option after the potential nerf. I'm not sure we'll still want to use mines if they reduce the radius that much.
-JoKeR-
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada387 Posts
September 29 2013 06:53 GMT
#3551
He used to go bio hellbat earlier before the nerf to and I think even beat JD with them.
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
September 29 2013 13:36 GMT
#3552
Quick question. TvP on Yeonsu. If i wall off i can lose 2 depots to 10 gate msc/stalker harass. If i don't wall off i can die to proxy 10 gate. Are there any solutions to this?
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gillon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1578 Posts
September 29 2013 13:52 GMT
#3553
On September 29 2013 22:36 ReachTheSky wrote:
Quick question. TvP on Yeonsu. If i wall off i can lose 2 depots to 10 gate msc/stalker harass. If i don't wall off i can die to proxy 10 gate. Are there any solutions to this?


Nope, and this goes for way more maps than yeonsu.
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ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
September 29 2013 14:06 GMT
#3554
On September 29 2013 22:52 gillon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 22:36 ReachTheSky wrote:
Quick question. TvP on Yeonsu. If i wall off i can lose 2 depots to 10 gate msc/stalker harass. If i don't wall off i can die to proxy 10 gate. Are there any solutions to this?


Nope, and this goes for way more maps than yeonsu.


hmmmmm Why do we only have maps with 2 spawn points again? Its fucking stupid. Every map should be a 4 player map. None of this bullshit proxy shit. It's really retarded
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Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
September 29 2013 14:41 GMT
#3555
what should i do if he proxy 2 gates me inbase ? someone told me to pull 6-7 scv to cancel the gate. is this right ?
Sissors
Profile Joined March 2012
1395 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-29 15:22:31
September 29 2013 15:20 GMT
#3556
On September 29 2013 23:06 ReachTheSky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 22:52 gillon wrote:
On September 29 2013 22:36 ReachTheSky wrote:
Quick question. TvP on Yeonsu. If i wall off i can lose 2 depots to 10 gate msc/stalker harass. If i don't wall off i can die to proxy 10 gate. Are there any solutions to this?


Nope, and this goes for way more maps than yeonsu.


hmmmmm Why do we only have maps with 2 spawn points again? Its fucking stupid. Every map should be a 4 player map. None of this bullshit proxy shit. It's really retarded

You mean they should remove all 4 spawn point maps since it is a freaking russian roulette game. It is completely random if you scout in the correct direction. If I am lucky I scout an extremely greedy opening and punish it, if I am not lucky I am behind due to spawn locations...

Scout with depot probe, if he does something like that, make bunker on low ground. At best then he can snipe one depot.

what should i do if he proxy 2 gates me inbase ? someone told me to pull 6-7 scv to cancel the gate. is this right ?

Once floated my CC to my natural and made my wall-off work the other way .

But in general I would just make bunker + building wall to protect your mineral line. Only if you managed to kill his probe and he has only one pylon powering the gates I would pull SCVs to kill the pylon.
Snusmumriken
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden1717 Posts
September 29 2013 17:41 GMT
#3557
I keep losing to blink stalker allins. Even when I scout it early and make 5 fucking bunkers. How do you defend those? Low masters terran.
Amove for Aiur
Marathi
Profile Joined July 2011
298 Posts
September 29 2013 19:23 GMT
#3558
On September 30 2013 02:41 Snusmumriken wrote:
I keep losing to blink stalker allins. Even when I scout it early and make 5 fucking bunkers. How do you defend those? Low masters terran.


Tanks help a lot as long as they're positioned well where they can't easily be sniped.
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Snusmumriken
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden1717 Posts
September 29 2013 19:32 GMT
#3559
On September 30 2013 04:23 Marathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2013 02:41 Snusmumriken wrote:
I keep losing to blink stalker allins. Even when I scout it early and make 5 fucking bunkers. How do you defend those? Low masters terran.


Tanks help a lot as long as they're positioned well where they can't easily be sniped.


Blink comes before I can possibly have tanks if I go 1 rax expand. :/
Amove for Aiur
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
September 29 2013 19:38 GMT
#3560
On September 30 2013 04:32 Snusmumriken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2013 04:23 Marathi wrote:
On September 30 2013 02:41 Snusmumriken wrote:
I keep losing to blink stalker allins. Even when I scout it early and make 5 fucking bunkers. How do you defend those? Low masters terran.


Tanks help a lot as long as they're positioned well where they can't easily be sniped.


Blink comes before I can possibly have tanks if I go 1 rax expand. :/

It's why nobody goes 1rax FE, it's either reaper FE or CC first.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
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