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On January 25 2014 15:17 noSec wrote:
Sup guys...
Well i'm having TERRIBLE problems with TvZ right now and the core of the problems are the mutas. In theory i know what i must do but it just doesn't work by any means... Even when i'm ahead in the game, when i'm in three bases the game turns to a nightmare. I usually have a lot of Turrets in my bases and 1 to 2 thors and even with that, i can't leave my base at all... The Mutas just find a way to snipe turrets and do the magic box on thors.

Shoul i be making Vikings? I see some terrans adding vikings to their composition, but the meaning of them is to scare mutas away from their base?

On January 25 2014 15:59 Doc Brawler wrote:
Aquila, I find its insanely hard but I've been working on specifically that lately. Playing against cheater AI while setting them to "marine seige" tactic is a good practice...

step 1: Being super efficient with your build: no extra depots and if you want to squeeze in turrets for gas first banshee defense you have to choose something to skip (2 marines)
Step 2: is scouting it: one mine, scv, marine, or hellion needs to be waiting for the marine tank move out.
Step 3: the engage: if its early with only rines and tanks, just pull a few scvs, even 3-4 will be the difference between barely not holding it and totally crushing it. If its later on in the game i like to either have a hellion runby ready to pull them back or swarm them hellions and huge scv pull if needed.

The build: forgg 1-1-1... ebay at or before 5:45 -> one turret. build hellions constantly fit as many vikes as you can, second factory won't finish before ealry pushes so just make hellions and if they take a late expo and rush you pull the boys.
3rd CC -> 2nd gas, 2nd factory (on TL that rax builds) -> Blue flame immediatly and one tank when gas allows.
take gas 3 and 4 and add 3rd fac. For me the key is really fast 2 fac with blue flame, one tank and about 4 vikings. I get a raven after that then go into reactor vikes...

On January 26 2014 11:00 halpimcat wrote:
in tvp, How do you beat carriers? If the protoss sniffs mech from me, if they go straight to carriers, I have absolutely no response back.

On January 25 2014 15:17 noSec wrote:
Sup guys...
Well i'm having TERRIBLE problems with TvZ right now and the core of the problems are the mutas. In theory i know what i must do but it just doesn't work by any means... Even when i'm ahead in the game, when i'm in three bases the game turns to a nightmare. I usually have a lot of Turrets in my bases and 1 to 2 thors and even with that, i can't leave my base at all... The Mutas just find a way to snipe turrets and do the magic box on thors.

Shoul i be making Vikings? I see some terrans adding vikings to their composition, but the meaning of them is to scare mutas away from their base?

On January 26 2014 12:01 Telon Petrides wrote:


I use focus fired vikings fighting by missile turrets and widow mines coming out of my reactored factories. Carriers are tough. Supernova also got creamed by them twice in GSL 2 days ago by Stats.

I never have enough Ravens/Thors in my build at the time the carriers get to you. I've heard Yamato is good against them but I never get BCs in time. They build too slow.

You have to focus fire the vikings or they attack interceptors. By fighting by several turrets, the turrets shoot down the interceptors. The widow mines give you splash, can do pretty well against all protoss units if the sentries are gone (due to turrets or scan+vikings).

I think we are going to see alot of carriers vs Mech after Stats/SuNo GSL games.

On January 26 2014 13:01 halpimcat wrote:

That's the thing: unless I'm already ahead, I can't for the life of me deal with carriers without missile turrets. Which means I can't move out and be aggressive without being demolished. By the time I feel safe enough to try, Protoss has taken half the map and can afford to trade somewhat inefficiently and just bleed me to death.

On a similar note, are there good options to be aggressive vs a Protoss who failed the all-in? Double expanding after a failed blink or dt all-in is nice and all. But I find that if Protoss just withdraws from trying to outright kill me, delays my expansions with harass, and double expand on his own, the game turns more or less even, which doesn't feel right at all.

On January 26 2014 14:01 HTOMario wrote:


I like to go double reactor starport with 2 tech lab 1 reactor factory. Mass drop style and get a 4th factory with a 2nd reactor near my third timing. Allows me to make 4 vikings at a time if needed and mineral dump into hellbats countering any air tech. It's also hard to deal with drops without air tech so i can do 3 or so medivacs flying around sniping workers.

On January 26 2014 14:17 halpimcat wrote:

Thanks! Always good to hear from the guy that inspired me to go tvp mech in the first place.

I have another question (they never end...): I've been reading a lot about the strength of tank/hellbat, and how often times you don't even need to siege to beat a toss army that doesn't have colossi. Just a move and win. I'm a bit too skeptical to try it out myself in game though; is this really good? Is it actually better than sieging the tanks? About the same in terms of strength? Who's well does it work in different scale sizes (ie medium sized armies vs large size armies)?

On January 25 2014 05:37 Aquila- wrote:
High master, in TvT I do forgg build 15 gas into hellions, how to I defend the marine tank push that comes after cloak banshee or later even the marine marodeur stim tank viking push? do I NEED to get marine tank at start? should I add facotry number 2 and 3 before third cc? thanks.