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On August 08 2012 03:28 Nightmarjoo wrote:
Replay of what?
I was explaining the evolution of my mech openings to what I'm doing currently and the reasoning for it; relevant to the cc first stuff because I don't think it's safe/viable.
From what you wrote it seemed like you still weren't happy with your current opening ><
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Well I would've liked to have been able to 1rax cc, but it's not viable. I'm satisfied with what I'm currently using because it's working.
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Hi mech people.
Currently I am looking to get as many inputs as I can because I asked amoderator and found out there is no actual thread for HOTS. So let me just ask one thing about your opinion.
Please dont get this wrong - I never want to start a balance thread, and there is no HOTS general discussion thread, and I only simply want to know one thing and one thing only.
Yes, HOTS hasnt come out yet, but apparently with all these fellow terrans tears, in HOTs mech will be more viable to use. Does this mean bio will simply die? All I am looking here is an opinion, please do not misunderstand. I just hope that HOTS will make mech viable but does not mean will kill bio right? I just absolutely love the playstyle of bio, micro macro intensive, drop here everywhere, split vs fungal and storm, etc.
That is all, Thank you everyone.
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Blizzard wants mech/bio to be played closer to 50/50 instead of what it is now. So eventually they should reach that point.
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On August 08 2012 11:26 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Blizzard wants mech/bio to be played closer to 50/50 instead of what it is now. So eventually they should reach that point.
Seems like that's what they want but with the addition of Blinding Cloud, Ultra charge, Swarm Hosts, Mship Core Purify and its other habilities and with Terran bio getting absolutely nothing to deal with any of these HARD counters I think we will see Mech becoming standart for TvP and TvZ even at the higher levels (unless we see some sort of Ghost and Reaper buffs).
That's it, I called it folks, mech will be the new T standart in HOTS, you saw it first here!
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woo im about to go on my 2nd account and mech my way through master league! I'll post replays that I feel were interesting or surprisingly successful.
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On August 08 2012 11:41 mannerless wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2012 11:26 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Blizzard wants mech/bio to be played closer to 50/50 instead of what it is now. So eventually they should reach that point. Seems like that's what they want but with the addition of Blinding Cloud, Ultra charge, Swarm Hosts, Mship Core Purify and its other habilities and with Terran bio getting absolutely nothing to deal with any of these HARD counters I think we will see Mech becoming standart for TvP and TvZ even at the higher levels (unless we see some sort of Ghost and Reaper buffs). That's it, I called it folks, mech will be the new T standart in HOTS, you saw it first here!
Now this is what I dont want to see, mech becoming standard lol
With Yoshis comment I dont mind,. I dont mind seeing mech become viable, what I dont want to see is mech KILLING bio.
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Full mech may become inviable vs zerg and protoss unless the thor replacement retains splash.
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On August 08 2012 12:32 dynwar7 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2012 11:41 mannerless wrote:On August 08 2012 11:26 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Blizzard wants mech/bio to be played closer to 50/50 instead of what it is now. So eventually they should reach that point. Seems like that's what they want but with the addition of Blinding Cloud, Ultra charge, Swarm Hosts, Mship Core Purify and its other habilities and with Terran bio getting absolutely nothing to deal with any of these HARD counters I think we will see Mech becoming standart for TvP and TvZ even at the higher levels (unless we see some sort of Ghost and Reaper buffs). That's it, I called it folks, mech will be the new T standart in HOTS, you saw it first here! Now this is what I dont want to see, mech becoming standard lol With Yoshis comment I dont mind,. I dont mind seeing mech become viable, what I dont want to see is mech KILLING bio.
Yeah seriously. Bio is so freaking fun if it wasnt viable in TvP / TvZ i'd switch races.
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On August 08 2012 12:32 dynwar7 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2012 11:41 mannerless wrote:On August 08 2012 11:26 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Blizzard wants mech/bio to be played closer to 50/50 instead of what it is now. So eventually they should reach that point. Seems like that's what they want but with the addition of Blinding Cloud, Ultra charge, Swarm Hosts, Mship Core Purify and its other habilities and with Terran bio getting absolutely nothing to deal with any of these HARD counters I think we will see Mech becoming standart for TvP and TvZ even at the higher levels (unless we see some sort of Ghost and Reaper buffs). That's it, I called it folks, mech will be the new T standart in HOTS, you saw it first here! Now this is what I dont want to see, mech becoming standard lol With Yoshis comment I dont mind,. I dont mind seeing mech become viable, what I dont want to see is mech KILLING bio.
they will bring back bio-ball in LOTV, for HOTS it's time to make mech-ball
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On August 08 2012 16:16 Garmer wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2012 12:32 dynwar7 wrote:On August 08 2012 11:41 mannerless wrote:On August 08 2012 11:26 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Blizzard wants mech/bio to be played closer to 50/50 instead of what it is now. So eventually they should reach that point. Seems like that's what they want but with the addition of Blinding Cloud, Ultra charge, Swarm Hosts, Mship Core Purify and its other habilities and with Terran bio getting absolutely nothing to deal with any of these HARD counters I think we will see Mech becoming standart for TvP and TvZ even at the higher levels (unless we see some sort of Ghost and Reaper buffs). That's it, I called it folks, mech will be the new T standart in HOTS, you saw it first here! Now this is what I dont want to see, mech becoming standard lol With Yoshis comment I dont mind,. I dont mind seeing mech become viable, what I dont want to see is mech KILLING bio. they will bring back bio-ball in LOTV, for HOTS it's time to make mech-ball
Well, Mech in HOTS is going to be terrible
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On August 08 2012 15:20 Nightmarjoo wrote:
Full mech may become inviable vs zerg and protoss unless the thor replacement retains splash.
Are you talking about the warhound? That's not replacing the thor.
Also, what if LotV made Air more viable :D
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On August 08 2012 17:17 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2012 15:20 Nightmarjoo wrote:
Full mech may become inviable vs zerg and protoss unless the thor replacement retains splash. Are you talking about the warhound? That's not replacing the thor. Also, what if LotV made Air more viable :D
I thought the Thor was becoming a one-in-play only unit like the mothership, and losing its anti-air attack. Was that idea scrapped?
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On August 08 2012 17:26 Nightmarjoo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2012 17:17 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:On August 08 2012 15:20 Nightmarjoo wrote:
Full mech may become inviable vs zerg and protoss unless the thor replacement retains splash. Are you talking about the warhound? That's not replacing the thor. Also, what if LotV made Air more viable :D I thought the Thor was becoming a one-in-play only unit like the mothership, and losing its anti-air attack. Was that idea scrapped?
Yeah, they're adding in a warhound which is anti-ground mechanical unit (no air attack) and thor is staying in as is. Yay! People say the warhound is a mech marauder which may be true but... this is mech here, we don't need units that have high micro potential like bio. The warhound's stats are really interesting, and I can see many uses for it in TvZ even though zerg has no mechanical units.
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Huh, so how does it fit into the mech army? Why would I make it instead of what I make already?
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On August 08 2012 16:50 Lyyna wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2012 16:16 Garmer wrote:On August 08 2012 12:32 dynwar7 wrote:On August 08 2012 11:41 mannerless wrote:On August 08 2012 11:26 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Blizzard wants mech/bio to be played closer to 50/50 instead of what it is now. So eventually they should reach that point. Seems like that's what they want but with the addition of Blinding Cloud, Ultra charge, Swarm Hosts, Mship Core Purify and its other habilities and with Terran bio getting absolutely nothing to deal with any of these HARD counters I think we will see Mech becoming standart for TvP and TvZ even at the higher levels (unless we see some sort of Ghost and Reaper buffs). That's it, I called it folks, mech will be the new T standart in HOTS, you saw it first here! Now this is what I dont want to see, mech becoming standard lol With Yoshis comment I dont mind,. I dont mind seeing mech become viable, what I dont want to see is mech KILLING bio. they will bring back bio-ball in LOTV, for HOTS it's time to make mech-ball Well, Mech in HOTS is going to be terrible
Lynna, may I Ask why you think mech in
HOTS is gonna be terrible?
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On August 08 2012 17:44 dynwar7 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2012 16:50 Lyyna wrote:On August 08 2012 16:16 Garmer wrote:On August 08 2012 12:32 dynwar7 wrote:On August 08 2012 11:41 mannerless wrote:On August 08 2012 11:26 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Blizzard wants mech/bio to be played closer to 50/50 instead of what it is now. So eventually they should reach that point. Seems like that's what they want but with the addition of Blinding Cloud, Ultra charge, Swarm Hosts, Mship Core Purify and its other habilities and with Terran bio getting absolutely nothing to deal with any of these HARD counters I think we will see Mech becoming standart for TvP and TvZ even at the higher levels (unless we see some sort of Ghost and Reaper buffs). That's it, I called it folks, mech will be the new T standart in HOTS, you saw it first here! Now this is what I dont want to see, mech becoming standard lol With Yoshis comment I dont mind,. I dont mind seeing mech become viable, what I dont want to see is mech KILLING bio. they will bring back bio-ball in LOTV, for HOTS it's time to make mech-ball Well, Mech in HOTS is going to be terrible Lynna, may I Ask why you think mech in HOTS is gonna be terrible?
Battle hellion : we already have hellions,but its ok.
Warhound : useless versus bio heavy armies in TvT, zerg armies, any zealot/colossus armies vP.
Widow mine : cost supply, resources,factory times, ez to outmicro or just to spot with one detector
Protoss get
Tempest, best anti mech unit ever
Mothership, for even stupider agressive play
Zerg get
Hydra speed
Ultra Charge
Ultra/hydra is already very good versus mech, now it's going to be unstoppable
Oh and,Viper. Able to grab your tanks because we still dont have any fucking good anti air unit.
Seriously blizz, plz, give us a goliath.. and a spider mine.
The fact is that they realised we need sc:bw things to "fix" mech play, but they dont want to do so, so they give us a "look alike" mine,which is absolutely impossible to use, and an anti ground goliath . which is useless except versus pure mech terran armies, or stalker based protoss armies
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Updated the OP with Lyyna's replays pack!
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