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Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
August 08 2012 00:57 GMT
#181
On August 08 2012 03:28 Nightmarjoo wrote:
Replay of what?

I was explaining the evolution of my mech openings to what I'm doing currently and the reasoning for it; relevant to the cc first stuff because I don't think it's safe/viable.


From what you wrote it seemed like you still weren't happy with your current opening ><
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
August 08 2012 01:39 GMT
#182
Well I would've liked to have been able to 1rax cc, but it's not viable. I'm satisfied with what I'm currently using because it's working.
aka Lyra; My favourites: July, Stork, Draco, MistrZZZ, TheStc, LastShadow - www.broodwarmaps.net - for all your mapping needs; check my stream: high masters mech terran: twitch.tv/lyrathegreat
dynwar7
Profile Joined May 2011
1983 Posts
August 08 2012 02:22 GMT
#183
Hi mech people.

Currently I am looking to get as many inputs as I can because I asked amoderator and found out there is no actual thread for HOTS. So let me just ask one thing about your opinion.

Please dont get this wrong - I never want to start a balance thread, and there is no HOTS general discussion thread, and I only simply want to know one thing and one thing only.

Yes, HOTS hasnt come out yet, but apparently with all these fellow terrans tears, in HOTs mech will be more viable to use. Does this mean bio will simply die? All I am looking here is an opinion, please do not misunderstand. I just hope that HOTS will make mech viable but does not mean will kill bio right? I just absolutely love the playstyle of bio, micro macro intensive, drop here everywhere, split vs fungal and storm, etc.

That is all, Thank you everyone.
Regarding the imbalance, hilarious to see Zergs defending themselves....
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10383 Posts
August 08 2012 02:26 GMT
#184
Blizzard wants mech/bio to be played closer to 50/50 instead of what it is now. So eventually they should reach that point.
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
mannerless
Profile Joined May 2010
Brazil86 Posts
August 08 2012 02:41 GMT
#185
On August 08 2012 11:26 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Blizzard wants mech/bio to be played closer to 50/50 instead of what it is now. So eventually they should reach that point.


Seems like that's what they want but with the addition of Blinding Cloud, Ultra charge, Swarm Hosts, Mship Core Purify and its other habilities and with Terran bio getting absolutely nothing to deal with any of these HARD counters I think we will see Mech becoming standart for TvP and TvZ even at the higher levels (unless we see some sort of Ghost and Reaper buffs).

That's it, I called it folks, mech will be the new T standart in HOTS, you saw it first here!
lurking the forums since 2003
13JackaL
Profile Joined March 2011
United States577 Posts
August 08 2012 03:21 GMT
#186
woo im about to go on my 2nd account and mech my way through master league! I'll post replays that I feel were interesting or surprisingly successful.
and my axe
dynwar7
Profile Joined May 2011
1983 Posts
August 08 2012 03:32 GMT
#187
On August 08 2012 11:41 mannerless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 11:26 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Blizzard wants mech/bio to be played closer to 50/50 instead of what it is now. So eventually they should reach that point.


Seems like that's what they want but with the addition of Blinding Cloud, Ultra charge, Swarm Hosts, Mship Core Purify and its other habilities and with Terran bio getting absolutely nothing to deal with any of these HARD counters I think we will see Mech becoming standart for TvP and TvZ even at the higher levels (unless we see some sort of Ghost and Reaper buffs).

That's it, I called it folks, mech will be the new T standart in HOTS, you saw it first here!



Now this is what I dont want to see, mech becoming standard lol

With Yoshis comment I dont mind,. I dont mind seeing mech become viable, what I dont want to see is mech KILLING bio.
Regarding the imbalance, hilarious to see Zergs defending themselves....
Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
August 08 2012 06:20 GMT
#188
Full mech may become inviable vs zerg and protoss unless the thor replacement retains splash.
aka Lyra; My favourites: July, Stork, Draco, MistrZZZ, TheStc, LastShadow - www.broodwarmaps.net - for all your mapping needs; check my stream: high masters mech terran: twitch.tv/lyrathegreat
Picklebread
Profile Joined June 2011
808 Posts
August 08 2012 06:26 GMT
#189
On August 08 2012 12:32 dynwar7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 11:41 mannerless wrote:
On August 08 2012 11:26 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Blizzard wants mech/bio to be played closer to 50/50 instead of what it is now. So eventually they should reach that point.


Seems like that's what they want but with the addition of Blinding Cloud, Ultra charge, Swarm Hosts, Mship Core Purify and its other habilities and with Terran bio getting absolutely nothing to deal with any of these HARD counters I think we will see Mech becoming standart for TvP and TvZ even at the higher levels (unless we see some sort of Ghost and Reaper buffs).

That's it, I called it folks, mech will be the new T standart in HOTS, you saw it first here!



Now this is what I dont want to see, mech becoming standard lol

With Yoshis comment I dont mind,. I dont mind seeing mech become viable, what I dont want to see is mech KILLING bio.

Yeah seriously. Bio is so freaking fun if it wasnt viable in TvP / TvZ i'd switch races.
Garmer
Profile Joined October 2010
1286 Posts
August 08 2012 07:16 GMT
#190
On August 08 2012 12:32 dynwar7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 11:41 mannerless wrote:
On August 08 2012 11:26 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Blizzard wants mech/bio to be played closer to 50/50 instead of what it is now. So eventually they should reach that point.


Seems like that's what they want but with the addition of Blinding Cloud, Ultra charge, Swarm Hosts, Mship Core Purify and its other habilities and with Terran bio getting absolutely nothing to deal with any of these HARD counters I think we will see Mech becoming standart for TvP and TvZ even at the higher levels (unless we see some sort of Ghost and Reaper buffs).

That's it, I called it folks, mech will be the new T standart in HOTS, you saw it first here!



Now this is what I dont want to see, mech becoming standard lol

With Yoshis comment I dont mind,. I dont mind seeing mech become viable, what I dont want to see is mech KILLING bio.

they will bring back bio-ball in LOTV, for HOTS it's time to make mech-ball
Lyyna
Profile Joined June 2011
France776 Posts
August 08 2012 07:50 GMT
#191
On August 08 2012 16:16 Garmer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 12:32 dynwar7 wrote:
On August 08 2012 11:41 mannerless wrote:
On August 08 2012 11:26 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Blizzard wants mech/bio to be played closer to 50/50 instead of what it is now. So eventually they should reach that point.


Seems like that's what they want but with the addition of Blinding Cloud, Ultra charge, Swarm Hosts, Mship Core Purify and its other habilities and with Terran bio getting absolutely nothing to deal with any of these HARD counters I think we will see Mech becoming standart for TvP and TvZ even at the higher levels (unless we see some sort of Ghost and Reaper buffs).

That's it, I called it folks, mech will be the new T standart in HOTS, you saw it first here!



Now this is what I dont want to see, mech becoming standard lol

With Yoshis comment I dont mind,. I dont mind seeing mech become viable, what I dont want to see is mech KILLING bio.

they will bring back bio-ball in LOTV, for HOTS it's time to make mech-ball

Well, Mech in HOTS is going to be terrible
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-strategy/459600-how-to-mech-them-cry-lyynas-mech-in-hots - The 2014 Mech guide ! http://www.twitch.tv/lyyna for stream and contact infos
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10383 Posts
August 08 2012 08:17 GMT
#192
On August 08 2012 15:20 Nightmarjoo wrote:
Full mech may become inviable vs zerg and protoss unless the thor replacement retains splash.


Are you talking about the warhound? That's not replacing the thor.

Also, what if LotV made Air more viable :D
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
August 08 2012 08:26 GMT
#193
On August 08 2012 17:17 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 15:20 Nightmarjoo wrote:
Full mech may become inviable vs zerg and protoss unless the thor replacement retains splash.


Are you talking about the warhound? That's not replacing the thor.

Also, what if LotV made Air more viable :D

I thought the Thor was becoming a one-in-play only unit like the mothership, and losing its anti-air attack. Was that idea scrapped?
aka Lyra; My favourites: July, Stork, Draco, MistrZZZ, TheStc, LastShadow - www.broodwarmaps.net - for all your mapping needs; check my stream: high masters mech terran: twitch.tv/lyrathegreat
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10383 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 08:30:22
August 08 2012 08:30 GMT
#194
On August 08 2012 17:26 Nightmarjoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 17:17 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
On August 08 2012 15:20 Nightmarjoo wrote:
Full mech may become inviable vs zerg and protoss unless the thor replacement retains splash.


Are you talking about the warhound? That's not replacing the thor.

Also, what if LotV made Air more viable :D

I thought the Thor was becoming a one-in-play only unit like the mothership, and losing its anti-air attack. Was that idea scrapped?


Yeah, they're adding in a warhound which is anti-ground mechanical unit (no air attack) and thor is staying in as is. Yay! People say the warhound is a mech marauder which may be true but... this is mech here, we don't need units that have high micro potential like bio. The warhound's stats are really interesting, and I can see many uses for it in TvZ even though zerg has no mechanical units.
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
August 08 2012 08:42 GMT
#195
Huh, so how does it fit into the mech army? Why would I make it instead of what I make already?
aka Lyra; My favourites: July, Stork, Draco, MistrZZZ, TheStc, LastShadow - www.broodwarmaps.net - for all your mapping needs; check my stream: high masters mech terran: twitch.tv/lyrathegreat
dynwar7
Profile Joined May 2011
1983 Posts
August 08 2012 08:44 GMT
#196
On August 08 2012 16:50 Lyyna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 16:16 Garmer wrote:
On August 08 2012 12:32 dynwar7 wrote:
On August 08 2012 11:41 mannerless wrote:
On August 08 2012 11:26 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Blizzard wants mech/bio to be played closer to 50/50 instead of what it is now. So eventually they should reach that point.


Seems like that's what they want but with the addition of Blinding Cloud, Ultra charge, Swarm Hosts, Mship Core Purify and its other habilities and with Terran bio getting absolutely nothing to deal with any of these HARD counters I think we will see Mech becoming standart for TvP and TvZ even at the higher levels (unless we see some sort of Ghost and Reaper buffs).

That's it, I called it folks, mech will be the new T standart in HOTS, you saw it first here!



Now this is what I dont want to see, mech becoming standard lol

With Yoshis comment I dont mind,. I dont mind seeing mech become viable, what I dont want to see is mech KILLING bio.

they will bring back bio-ball in LOTV, for HOTS it's time to make mech-ball

Well, Mech in HOTS is going to be terrible



Lynna, may I Ask why you think mech in
HOTS is gonna be terrible?
Regarding the imbalance, hilarious to see Zergs defending themselves....
Lyyna
Profile Joined June 2011
France776 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 09:01:32
August 08 2012 08:56 GMT
#197
On August 08 2012 17:44 dynwar7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 16:50 Lyyna wrote:
On August 08 2012 16:16 Garmer wrote:
On August 08 2012 12:32 dynwar7 wrote:
On August 08 2012 11:41 mannerless wrote:
On August 08 2012 11:26 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Blizzard wants mech/bio to be played closer to 50/50 instead of what it is now. So eventually they should reach that point.


Seems like that's what they want but with the addition of Blinding Cloud, Ultra charge, Swarm Hosts, Mship Core Purify and its other habilities and with Terran bio getting absolutely nothing to deal with any of these HARD counters I think we will see Mech becoming standart for TvP and TvZ even at the higher levels (unless we see some sort of Ghost and Reaper buffs).

That's it, I called it folks, mech will be the new T standart in HOTS, you saw it first here!



Now this is what I dont want to see, mech becoming standard lol

With Yoshis comment I dont mind,. I dont mind seeing mech become viable, what I dont want to see is mech KILLING bio.

they will bring back bio-ball in LOTV, for HOTS it's time to make mech-ball

Well, Mech in HOTS is going to be terrible



Lynna, may I Ask why you think mech in
HOTS is gonna be terrible?

Battle hellion : we already have hellions,but its ok.
Warhound : useless versus bio heavy armies in TvT, zerg armies, any zealot/colossus armies vP.
Widow mine : cost supply, resources,factory times, ez to outmicro or just to spot with one detector

Protoss get
Tempest, best anti mech unit ever
Mothership, for even stupider agressive play

Zerg get
Hydra speed
Ultra Charge

Ultra/hydra is already very good versus mech, now it's going to be unstoppable
Oh and,Viper. Able to grab your tanks because we still dont have any fucking good anti air unit.

Seriously blizz, plz, give us a goliath.. and a spider mine.
The fact is that they realised we need sc:bw things to "fix" mech play, but they dont want to do so, so they give us a "look alike" mine,which is absolutely impossible to use, and an anti ground goliath . which is useless except versus pure mech terran armies, or stalker based protoss armies
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-strategy/459600-how-to-mech-them-cry-lyynas-mech-in-hots - The 2014 Mech guide ! http://www.twitch.tv/lyyna for stream and contact infos
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 09:27:31
August 08 2012 09:26 GMT
#198
Updated the OP with Lyyna's replays pack!
Lyyna
Profile Joined June 2011
France776 Posts
August 08 2012 09:39 GMT
#199
On August 08 2012 18:26 kollin wrote:
Updated the OP with Lyyna's replays pack!

Use this one instead, so people can see even my old packs
http://www.mediafire.com/?ka8g8kx5ksjzk
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-strategy/459600-how-to-mech-them-cry-lyynas-mech-in-hots - The 2014 Mech guide ! http://www.twitch.tv/lyyna for stream and contact infos
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
August 08 2012 09:44 GMT
#200
Have done!
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