[G] TheCore - Advanced Keyboard Layout - Page 55

If you have a question, check out our development document and our data document. Most questions can be answered by one of these documents.

On August 17 2012 18:16 FoxyMayhem wrote:
The development document has the current key assignments. Open the data document, chose your race at the bottom (there are tabs down there), and scroll right for recommended assignments. We need that in the OP!

Also, time to add some of your guy's feedback to the OP section for that. Good to hear stroies and I look foward to following your progress, Vernay.

On August 18 2012 02:45 pyrostat wrote:
sorry if i am noob but i don't get how to use the data and development documents... too many number 0.0

On August 17 2012 01:33 Vernay wrote:
Hey all, Vern here!

Im currently in the midst of testing this, a little background on me:

Played sc2 for 5 days so far using grid placed bronze and rapidly got promoted up to platinum.

I come from a intensive training background ( its kind of hinted at in my thread from a while back after the fall of MMO's as esports.

Will be aiming to test this keyboard layout ( im using Prm - Protoss, left hand on keyboard, no extra mouse buttons) extensively and post results.

Day 1:

Concerns

I'm concerned about macro under this set up iv always focused on tapping as a skill set, will have to investigate sub grouping a little more.

Plus points

Pre the core, my unit control with really rather bad, and i won by out macroing / out thinking my opponents - so far iv seen a rapid increase in my unit control.

Sad points

Dang this thing is hard to adjust to, im used to the concept of optimized key binds - doing a fair amount of work on similar concepts for MMOs, however, this is really hard to adjust to due to the apm you are playing at ( in my case only around 100-120 )

What i did today to learn the keybinds

Today i spent 4 hours numbly staring at the hotkey trainer thats mentioned in the OP - really good at teaching you what each hotkey does, i changed the names of "control group 1,2, etc, to the purpuse described in the Data File which was a massive help.

I then proceeded to face the very easy ai, executing the standard 4 gate, i chose this build because it has very stringent timings that can be easily measured to check my progress on the very basics of using the layout before changing to more late game builds.


Will edit this with more conclusions in the morning.


Day 1.5

Quick update really, switched from 4 gate to a build that i have comparable replays from Grid settings so i can compare the timings etc.

The build is Mc's 7 gate 1 gas all in ( click me )


Compared 2 average replay games of me using Grid and me using PRM ( prm having only been used for about a day and a half )


Grid:

Gates are ready to warp @ 7:50
( in most games this would result in the push starting, however in the replay ( the only 1.5 replay i had of me doing this build on grid )

35 Probes.

Average APM at warp in: 98
Average EAPM at warp in: 45....

PRM:

Gates ready to warp: 8:02

36/37 probes.


Average APM at warp in: 55
Average EAPM at warp in 45

Conclusion.


i am not going to lie, theese stats suprised me no end, as i make a TON of mistakes when im using PRM, i still feel as if im having to glance at the keyboard every 10-20 seconds, and yet im not that far behind grid ( platinum )


i will add day 2 in the morning.

Day 2

Hey guys, real quick update, iv been playing a fair few games, sadly i had to go out so i only got a chance to play around 10 games, but i decided to post every other games basic stats for you to compare.



The is using the same build mentioned earlier: ( The build is Mc's 7 gate 1 gas all in

stats:

Game 1.

Warpgates ready: 7:47
Probe count: 38
APM: 60
Epm: 41

Game 2:

Warpgates ready: 7:39
Probe count: 32
APM:60
Epm:48

Game 3.

Warpgates ready: 7:21
Probe count: 35
APM: 58
Epm:45

Game 4.

Warpgates ready: 7:10
Probe count: 31
APM:70
Epm: 42



Review

Not sure how it happened, or were the time came from, but i am having a far easier time in optimizing the very small aspects of my build mainly just making sure timing was crisp etc.

i am still kind of in shock were those 40 seconds came from.

Will post more information when iv actually managed to play some more games now that my net is back up again

Also, my unit control, which has historically been my biggest issue ( i got up to platinum just by macroing really hard )

having issues with supply blocking myself as the muscle memory just isn't there at the moment, but i get the feeling im almost there

On August 18 2012 06:47 pyrostat wrote:
wtf man. seriously can you just answer my question? You have what i am looking for directly in your videos....

stop at 51 seconds... i don't have that... can you give me an ss of TRM and ZRM? please is that too much to ask for?

On August 18 2012 06:47 pyrostat wrote:
wtf man. seriously can you just answer my question? You have what i am looking for directly in your videos....

stop at 51 seconds... i don't have that... can you give me an ss of TRM and ZRM? please is that too much to ask for?

On August 18 2012 07:36 Sapp wrote:


ironic...

So you want to switch into another, completly different layout than grid or standard, but you can't force yourself to understand a fcuken .doc file? 'This' my frined, is going to be a really short trip.

On August 18 2012 09:37 pyrostat wrote:
thanks man. ima tear up... seriously thank you foxymayhem