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[G] Bronze to Masters, Improving Mechanics - Page 19

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Mongolbonjwa
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland376 Posts
May 11 2012 17:15 GMT
#361
You dont get to master by just improving your mechanics. You need to understand what the hell is going on in the game and what you need to do. You cannot just mass marines in every game and expect to get in master.
Randomaccount111
Profile Joined July 2011
29 Posts
May 11 2012 17:33 GMT
#362
On May 12 2012 02:15 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
You dont get to master by just improving your mechanics. You need to understand what the hell is going on in the game and what you need to do. You cannot just mass marines in every game and expect to get in master.


Just by reading this post, I have to ask if you even bothered checking out ANY of the videos or even the summaries he posts about the videos? You're statement is completely irrelevant because it it falsely generalizes what you think the videos are about and is in no way based in reality.

Anyway.. Great job filter, I've had a lot of fun with the videos and hitting these benchmarks have made my gameplay smoother in general. High Plat player here..
ExodusHydrA
Profile Joined September 2011
58 Posts
May 11 2012 17:33 GMT
#363
On May 12 2012 02:15 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
You dont get to master by just improving your mechanics. You need to understand what the hell is going on in the game and what you need to do. You cannot just mass marines in every game and expect to get in master.


You need the mechanics to apply any knowledge of the matchup well though.
This video series has helped many improve, myself included, and I do think this could certainly help one into masters, but maybe not solely with this video series.
InTehFace
Profile Joined September 2010
29 Posts
May 11 2012 18:06 GMT
#364
Hey you should take this information off of here. As a buisness consultant heres some advice: Never do something your really good at for free. I would gladly pay 5 dollars at least for this information. I recommend pming an admin to endorse your website with a kickback to TL for every referral. I know you did this for pure enjoyment, but find a job you love and never work a day in your life. You worked very hard on this and I would love to see it payoff for you. If you would like some serious advice I would thoroughly enjoy the opportunity to help you launch a professional coaching career.
TheExodus
Profile Joined November 2011
293 Posts
May 11 2012 18:12 GMT
#365
On May 12 2012 03:06 InTehFace wrote:
Hey you should take this information off of here. As a buisness consultant heres some advice: Never do something your really good at for free.


I'm sorry, but that's bullshit and sounds like something you read in the Rich Dad, Poor Dad books. And saying this is a real entrepreneur, you know, the one who actually takes the risk building something instead of trying to make risk-free money by telling other people how to run businesses
Captain Marksie
Profile Joined March 2012
40 Posts
May 11 2012 18:20 GMT
#366
On May 12 2012 03:06 InTehFace wrote:
I would gladly pay 5 dollars at least for this information..


The difference is though that you already know that this is good information because you have seen the videos. Im pretty sure not many people would pay for a SC2 guide before they know if the info is good and its pretty much impossible to know if its going to be good or not until you have seen it.
geoff877
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada19 Posts
May 11 2012 18:33 GMT
#367
Wow his is crazy ! I play plat zerg but I would love to see a guide for Z. I think I will use this to learn terran which is my weakest race right now.
Filter
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada620 Posts
May 11 2012 20:00 GMT
#368
On May 12 2012 03:06 InTehFace wrote:
Hey you should take this information off of here. As a buisness consultant heres some advice: Never do something your really good at for free. I would gladly pay 5 dollars at least for this information. I recommend pming an admin to endorse your website with a kickback to TL for every referral. I know you did this for pure enjoyment, but find a job you love and never work a day in your life. You worked very hard on this and I would love to see it payoff for you. If you would like some serious advice I would thoroughly enjoy the opportunity to help you launch a professional coaching career.


I got really lucky with youtube at the time I started making the videos. After I made the first 3 or 4 youtube announced they would let anybody essentially partner and monetize their content, I don't make a ton off it but it'll certainly add up over time! The more people that enjoy the game of starcraft the better!

On May 12 2012 02:15 Mongolbonjwa wrote:
You dont get to master by just improving your mechanics. You need to understand what the hell is going on in the game and what you need to do. You cannot just mass marines in every game and expect to get in master.


I don't normally want to address comments like this, but I'm of the opinion that there's a lot of really knowledgeable players out there that watch a lot of tournaments and understand the game on a very good level, probably better than a lot of masters players even understand it. I want to give them the tools to put that knowledge to good use and they'll probably learn a lot along the way up the ranks.

Masters takes hard work for the vast majority of people out there, having extremely good mechanics is a big part of it. On my Zerg account I'm playing Terrans that still make 35 scv's, and the similar things happen on my masters Terran accounts. Masters is probably 50% people with really great cheeses, or really solid starts, even excellent control, 25% excellent mechanically players and the top 25% are guys that have a mixture of solid strats, great control and excellent mechanics.
Live hard, live free.
TheExodus
Profile Joined November 2011
293 Posts
May 11 2012 21:17 GMT
#369
Is a 10 min push generally good with all races? As protoss it's very rare I get 100 food by 10 mins (it does happen, and I'm not quite sure why yet...), but on the other hand it feels like my 90 food is stronger than a terrans or zergs 100 food when simply a-moving...
InTehFace
Profile Joined September 2010
29 Posts
May 11 2012 21:56 GMT
#370
On May 12 2012 03:12 TheExodus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 03:06 InTehFace wrote:
Hey you should take this information off of here. As a buisness consultant heres some advice: Never do something your really good at for free.


I'm sorry, but that's bullshit and sounds like something you read in the Rich Dad, Poor Dad books. And saying this is a real entrepreneur, you know, the one who actually takes the risk building something instead of trying to make risk-free money by telling other people how to run businesses


Sigh... That quote has been around for decades. This is a direct insult to myself, my career, and filters ability to produce high quality training videos. This is not the place for this flame war and if filter wanted some information on the subject he would have pmed me and not derail the thread. I have a legitmate desire to explore some cool options from one stacraft player to another. Discussing ideas over skype is hardly telling someome how to run their organization. You dont have to explain what an Entreprenuer is, that was tacky and made you look like an Internet Tough guy. Oh your concept of a business consultant is way off btw...

And for the guy saying I would pay for it only because I already know its good. Thats what marketing is for, hence shooting for the TL endorsement/referrals
enanoretozon
Profile Joined March 2012
Panama57 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 22:32:55
May 11 2012 22:31 GMT
#371
On May 12 2012 03:06 InTehFace wrote:
Hey you should take this information off of here. As a buisness consultant heres some advice: Never do something your really good at for free. I would gladly pay 5 dollars at least for this information. I recommend pming an admin to endorse your website with a kickback to TL for every referral. I know you did this for pure enjoyment, but find a job you love and never work a day in your life. You worked very hard on this and I would love to see it payoff for you. If you would like some serious advice I would thoroughly enjoy the opportunity to help you launch a professional coaching career.


The Internet and many other the things you enjoy today (perhaps unknowingly) was built upon and relies to this very second on the efforts of people who make things for others for free. They make it for the betterment of the human race if you will, and curiously those kinds people often find themselves rewarded for their efforts even if they didn't try to monetize their work. For concrete examples look at Free Software, Open Source software and the like. Hell, we need to go no further than this very site's url with .php.

I realize you probably wrote your advice with the best intentions, but to add to the pile of cliches: "the road to hell is paved with good intentions". Hope you're not offended by this post, it's just that I feel strongly that humanity would be FAR better off with less business advice and more sharing. After all, we literally stand on the shoulders of those who shared freely before us, almost every minute of every day.

In fact I've been a member of the SC community for only a couple of months and the very thing that has made me fall in love with a game of a genre (rts) I've avoided my whole life is just how open and sharing the community is. From Day9 to FilterSC to Poster#48380788682 in TeamLiquid, all contribute to create something that is just beautiful. I've never felt more at home in a community after ~15 years of online gaming.

I just felt compelled to post here because I think advice to *remove content* just taints all this good stuff.



InTehFace
Profile Joined September 2010
29 Posts
May 11 2012 22:52 GMT
#372
Enanor, well said, I agree with most of what your saying, some of the information is a little incorrect but you are exactly right in the idea that some of the best things in this life were started the same way and not intending to make money off it. However, Good content has value, and I just wanted to express like so many others that this is indeed good content. What if Filter were to have the resources to produce even better more awesome material? With a means to an end you nevet know what can be achieved!
Natespank
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada449 Posts
May 11 2012 23:33 GMT
#373
Hey, anybody want to see a sample video of a high level terran using this build?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=336774
SeventhSword
Profile Joined April 2012
United States31 Posts
May 11 2012 23:40 GMT
#374
On May 12 2012 08:33 Natespank wrote:
Hey, anybody want to see a sample video of a high level terran using this build?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=336774


^^ This

Srsly tho guys, this ^^^^^^^^
If anything is worth doing, its worth overdoing. - Mr. G. @ CCHS Delano, CA
enanoretozon
Profile Joined March 2012
Panama57 Posts
May 12 2012 01:51 GMT
#375
On May 12 2012 08:33 Natespank wrote:
Hey, anybody want to see a sample video of a high level terran using this build?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=336774


I like his variation where he gets the factory before the rax addons which results in like 30 seconds faster medivacs at the cost of some stim time and a few units.
Sp4cem4nSpiff
Profile Joined September 2011
United States46 Posts
May 12 2012 02:13 GMT
#376
Awesome guide!! Thanx Filter for taking the time to put together such a helpful and well thought out guide. Your videos break down what took me months of trial and error to figure out...Looking forward to watching the Diamond and Master's part! >_< Great work
Professionals are predictable, but the world is full of Amateurs.
Filter
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada620 Posts
May 12 2012 02:14 GMT
#377
On May 12 2012 10:51 enanoretozon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 08:33 Natespank wrote:
Hey, anybody want to see a sample video of a high level terran using this build?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=336774


I like his variation where he gets the factory before the rax addons which results in like 30 seconds faster medivacs at the cost of some stim time and a few units.


Sadly, Flash managed 63 scv's by 10 minutes, a feat not thought possible within the current constraints of the game.
Live hard, live free.
andrewf87
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia22 Posts
May 12 2012 04:43 GMT
#378
Maybe Flash used this guide. How would that make you feel Filter
Filter
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada620 Posts
May 12 2012 06:34 GMT
#379
On May 12 2012 13:43 andrewf87 wrote:
Maybe Flash used this guide. How would that make you feel Filter


I'd be stoked, but... it's a very generic playstyle that's been around for a long time. I just broke it down into something more tangible for people to learn :D
Live hard, live free.
Natespank
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada449 Posts
May 12 2012 13:12 GMT
#380
Sadly, Flash managed 63 scv's by 10 minutes, a feat not thought possible within the current constraints of the game.


CC first rather than rax first, only difference I could find. Dang...
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