EPTThen ill push with my 160 supply BC/tank/Thor army not to 'go kill' the protoss, but simply to keep him on relatively few bases so that he can't afford all the high gas units he needs to engage my army.
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crocodile
United States615 Posts
Then ill push with my 160 supply BC/tank/Thor army not to 'go kill' the protoss, but simply to keep him on relatively few bases so that he can't afford all the high gas units he needs to engage my army. | ||
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The WingNut
United States35 Posts
On April 17 2012 00:48 crocodile wrote: Even when I'm maxed with 140 army supply, I start suiciding scvs and trading hellions while I replace at least 20-40 more supply with BC/raven/Thor (after 10-15 tanks you really don't need any more). At this point in the game, do you prioritize BCs, Thors, or Ravens (or do you try to be reactive to the enemy composition)? I've been neglecting Thors totally and even ravens in favor of BCs. I guess my reasoning for this is because of the strength of spell damage lategame, particularly yamato cannon (vs strike cannons which for some reason I can't make work).  | ||
Gyro_SC2
Canada540 Posts
Thors are important in midgame but less in lategame. Their job is to be a shield for the speedlot but in lategame the BC and the ghost are enought for the speedlot. In lategame I try to have at least: 10 tank, 10 BC, 10 raven and 10 ghost. | ||
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Gyro_SC2
Canada540 Posts
do you try to be reactive to the enemy composition)? Yes, but only with my midgame army and not my latgame army. My lategame death ball can deal with everything. In the midgame I try to survive and adapts to his composition. VR: I try to have raven faster. HT+archon: I try to have more ghosts. Mass speedlot: thors, hellion and ghost in priority. Blink stalker: standard mech army tank,thors,hellion. immortal: more hellion and ghost. Personnally I prefer ghost than banshee but its a style. collosus: some viking and transition to BC faster. | ||
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crocodile
United States615 Posts
@The WingNut I like to only get like 4-6 Thors, because after that they start to trip over each other. After that, I prioritize BCs, as they are useful against just about every Protoss unit, while Ravens are more of support for the BCs (PDD). I will get a few Vikings if they start to come at me with Carriers, but I usually don't let the Protoss get to that point. | ||
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DemigodcelpH
1138 Posts
On April 17 2012 05:19 crocodile wrote: Gyro... he wasn't asking you. @The WingNut I like to only get like 4-6 Thors, because after that they start to trip over each other. After that, I prioritize BCs, as they are useful against just about every Protoss unit, while Ravens are more of support for the BCs (PDD). I will get a few Vikings if they start to come at me with Carriers, but I usually don't let the Protoss get to that point. Any replays of your late game mech? I saw maybe one posted a while back in the thread. | ||
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crocodile
United States615 Posts
Multiple maxed situations, crazy Protoss compositions, etc. http://drop.sc/160703 This one is a really good one from Daybreak, I actually lose a maxed army but the Protoss can't roll in because he doesn't have any income after I sniped his expo. http://drop.sc/161197 Here's one where the Protoss took the 'abuse mobility' route. This was a really fun game. http://drop.sc/155317 This one demonstrates a lot of Barracks wall play and pushing while remaining in a strong defensive position. http://drop.sc/161199 In this one I'm really sloppy but my super strong army pulls me through! Also: a very good demonstration of why you should never Blink into tanks! | ||
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Angelus631
Scotland4 Posts
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crocodile
United States615 Posts
If you're asking if the army would die if I was retarded and flew all my air units into a Vortex with 8 Archons and +3, then yes, my army would die, and I would deserve to lose. | ||
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DemigodcelpH
1138 Posts
On April 17 2012 06:56 crocodile wrote: http://drop.sc/155312 Multiple maxed situations, crazy Protoss compositions, etc. http://drop.sc/160703 This one is a really good one from Daybreak, I actually lose a maxed army but the Protoss can't roll in because he doesn't have any income after I sniped his expo. http://drop.sc/161197 Here's one where the Protoss took the 'abuse mobility' route. This was a really fun game. http://drop.sc/155317 This one demonstrates a lot of Barracks wall play and pushing while remaining in a strong defensive position. http://drop.sc/161199 In this one I'm really sloppy but my super strong army pulls me through! Also: a very good demonstration of why you should never Blink into tanks! Awesome thanks! It's always good to have material to study. Hopefully I can find something about mass voidray + mass stalker. And maybe Lynna can pick some things up for updates to his guide. | ||
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crocodile
United States615 Posts
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Aristotle7
United States120 Posts
I got inspired by this thread to try Mech TvP again. My issue before was the late game, so in following this thread, I added BCs in late game, and it worked! It's 31min long TvP, 4 base vs 5 base toss. I rolled several of his waves, with Thors, Banshees, few Ravens, some ghosts, and BCs. http://drop.sc/161304 (master level) P.S. Note that I skipped tanks. I just don't like how they work in TvP. I went with more Thors instead. At some point in game, I popped 12 voids in 3 seconds due to splash .  | ||
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PaleRider09
United States70 Posts
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Gyro_SC2
Canada540 Posts
Any replays of your late game mech? I saw maybe one posted a while back in the thread. Video of my tvp Mech build http://www.twitch.tv/roadphantom/b/315379173 | ||
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Primeless
Spain5 Posts
I just want to thanx all you for this threat. So usefull & fun! "Dust, metal & blood". As i'm a broze terran player :facepalm: i'm traying to find a "general way to go" during my matches. Usually i went 2 rax>FE an then rush thors & ravens (this gives my oponent a wide window between the first factory and the first thor where im very burlnerable, but is prety safe in the firsts pushes). I'll start doing this kind of stuff you suggest in the threat. Specially since i show how do you spend the "extra cash" in planetary fortress, what I love. Cheers. | ||
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jakek95
United Kingdom351 Posts
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dezi
Germany1536 Posts
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Lyyna
France776 Posts
Poll: How should i do my vod's? English comments (so bad accent, lots of hesitation,etc) (15) French comments with english subtitles (more editing so longer time to do each VOD) (2) 17 total votes Your vote: How should i do my vod's? (Vote): English comments (so bad accent, lots of hesitation,etc) Ok guys , i recorded my first VOD this afternoon .. but i quickly realized that it's really hard for me to express all my thinkings and reflexion in english , and it's really hard to understand what im saying due to my shitty accent , so i wanna ask if you would still prefer to hear my (horrible) accent, or if you would prefer to get english subtitles (and then i would comment in french) | ||
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dynwar7
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Tppz!
Germany1449 Posts
the real question is: do you have the time to spend double the time? And does speaking while playing give you problems with your control? I would choose the option: no comments. Add the talk when you rewatch the VODs. Thanks though. And Im also curious if the VOD of MKP vs Huk will be available. | ||
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