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cydial
United States750 Posts
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Lyyna
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Norseman
United States223 Posts
On April 04 2012 00:40 cydial wrote: Goody doesn't even play mech anymore because of how bad it is at higher levels. Thank you... for reading the entire thread... and making a completely relevant and never before made (and addressed) comment. You, sir, are truly a champion in this forum. | ||
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crocodile
United States615 Posts
On April 04 2012 00:40 cydial wrote: Goody doesn't even play mech anymore because of how bad it is at higher levels. My god. You're a fucking genius. On March 25 2012 02:59 XquisiteWretch wrote: the king of mech "Goody" quit mech a long time ago, saying it is ineffective against protoss On March 29 2012 20:08 CoR wrote: i have the ULTIMATE REASON why this can NEVER work ... Goody switched to protoss vs protoss because he cant mecht vs protoss  and if the god of mech cant play mech vs protoss, no one in this world can !On April 03 2012 22:42 taitanik wrote: i still think theres a reason why goody played mech more than a year and switched to protoss/bio vs P, so i wont even try mech anyway Goody does not play mech anymore On March 24 2012 03:06 TangSC wrote: Even Goody, who's known specifically for using mech in every matchup, mentioned that he was struggling to beat protoss since those patches. Do you think it's a viable option at the top levels? And that's not to mention the various times we all addressed this point, as well as Lyyna answering that point in the fucking OP. | ||
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Lyyna
France776 Posts
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YARRtosis
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Lyyna
France776 Posts
(stream on http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xpoktr_fureurtv-sc2-live_videogames) | ||
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Mongolbonjwa
Finland376 Posts
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dotDash
Sweden142 Posts
On April 04 2012 02:56 Mongolbonjwa wrote: Banshees do more damage to colossus than vikings, why people make vikings against colossus when vikings are useless against everything else? Banshees shoot every ground unit so they are better option even though they cost more. Generally because vikings have so much longer range and auto-target colossi. With vikings you will have an easier time finding a good angle and also keep them out of harms way. With the banshee's low range its hard to really focus fire down colossi without puting them in a nasty spot. Cheers Dan | ||
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Mongolbonjwa
Finland376 Posts
On April 04 2012 03:18 dotDash wrote: Generally because vikings have so much longer range and auto-target colossi. With vikings you will have an easier time finding a good angle and also keep them out of harms way. With the banshee's low range its hard to really focus fire down colossi without puting them in a nasty spot. Cheers Dan Terrans should snipe always the observers | ||
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JOJOsc2news
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I was thoroughly confused by the play style over all. | ||
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Mongolbonjwa
Finland376 Posts
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Quotidian
Norway1937 Posts
here's the replay http://drop.sc/151095 @ about 23 minutes you can see what happens when a 2-0-2 protoss army fights a badly positioned 0-0 mech army. It's a very, very good trade for me. Basically my point is, people make a big deal out of the whole upgrade issue, but mech units are really good even at 0-0, especially against a composition that was made to deal with banshees, not tanks. (and another replay, just because Entombed Valley seems to be good for mech: http://drop.sc/151101 ) | ||
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Gyro_SC2
Canada540 Posts
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xpoktr_fureurtv-sc2-live_videogames) "connection perdu dailymotion ne peut se connecter à ce livre " ??? | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10348 Posts
On April 03 2012 21:34 FoolieCoolie wrote: People should take this build for what it is. Its not standard, therefore a lot of casual gamers dont know how to deal with it and lose terribly. It will probably give you wins on the ladder or make you feel rewarded for playing well ( like bio cant be played well lol ). Will it work on pro level, korean gm or high masters? No, it will get crushed. But thats ok, cause very few are at that level. Its like advising bronze level players to go roach zvz cause it will give them more wins at their level than ling bling. People should do what works for them... But please drop the almighty attitude like you somehow reinvented tvp and all bio players are dumb, getting killed by an a-move toss. Sorry but it works at Korean GM, and it works at pro level (mech in general)Out of 3 times it's been used in GSL/GSTL, it has won all 3 times. Each game is a bit different and it shows that one build working quite well. A different build, though still mech, was used in GSTL as well back when they had crevasse. The teching pattern was similar though the opener was different. He was in a good spot but didn't seem to watch his minimap carefully enough because he let MC's army go around his army without reacting fast enough (no time to siege up in place). MC got into his main and then he sieged up, and ofc that ended up messy. The first build I mentioned was used again in HSC4, where MKP beat MC with it. Out of all 5 times I've seen mech work at korean pro level, it's won 4 times and done very well all 5 times. | ||
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Eppy
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I tried this build and when I saw the Protoss pushing mid to late game with his army from my sensor towers, I launched a nuke in the pathway his army was headed for my tank line while the banshees killed every probe in his third. The nuke barely took out a few collisi but the defensive position force the gg. Long games though, i normally just 2 rax into a 2 base all in vs toss cuz of the late game scares...but the guide was easy to follow to try at least once and was a fun mix up. Cheers | ||
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Severus_
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perser84
Germany399 Posts
On April 04 2012 07:50 Severus_ wrote: Here is replay of lastshadow doing mech vs korean GM. saw the replay in the end you need a eco advantage to win it the ninja expansion played a big role in his succces but wow 5 fac with tech lab and 3 with reactor even he was so behind on uppgrades he won | ||
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McTeazy
Canada297 Posts
On April 04 2012 03:29 Mongolbonjwa wrote: Terrans should snipe always the observers you could try, but he'll have several if you have cloaked banshees and the collosi will make it difficult for you to pick out the obsrver and snipe it. but perhaps most importantly, if you don't make vikings toss will take air control and just kill your banshees with voids or phoenix | ||
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Faust852
Luxembourg4004 Posts
On April 04 2012 03:29 Mongolbonjwa wrote: Terrans should snipe always the observers It's not that EZ I think, that's why I always add 3 or 4 vikings to snipe them because I'm not always able to see it through the deathball protoss. | ||
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