EPT[G] Lyyna’s TvP : How to mech every protoss cry - Page 19
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DawN883
Sweden558 Posts
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Gyro_SC2
Canada540 Posts
My question: I have a lot of problem when the protoss do a big army and stop me to take my third. Similaire to your last game ? Your answer : more tank and snipe the obs ? But im not sure because even if you keep your 3banshee alive, his 5 immortel would rape your tank.. My solution: (im not totaly sure) do a 2base timing push(10-12min) it will force the protoss to be defensif and you'll be able to take your third without pressure from him. | ||
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crocodile
United States615 Posts
It's okay if you trade relatively evenly, but you don't want to end up putting yourself in a bad position because you tried to kill him with a non-optimized timing attack. It's okay to pull back if you feel the Protoss' army is getting too big. I do find that I can do some significant damage this way though, and when my mechanics are good I can do some strong multi-pronged harass with Banshees and Hellions during the push that usually does damage. Granted, I usually go Tanks before Thors so my build is different from Lyyna's and thus the timing push works out differently than it would if you used Lyyna's build to the tee. | ||
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Mongolbonjwa
Finland376 Posts
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FreshVegetables
Finland513 Posts
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Norseman
United States223 Posts
On April 03 2012 07:01 FreshVegetables wrote: This guy is extremly BM. Who? | ||
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FreshVegetables
Finland513 Posts
The thread starter Lyyna, on top of that this strategy isn't viable on high levels. When protosses get used to playing vs this, it's going to be useless. User was warned for this post | ||
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crocodile
United States615 Posts
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10381 Posts
And how do you know this? Also yes, 11 minute timing is really strong. That's why gorapadong's build works so well. On April 03 2012 02:47 Mongolbonjwa wrote: What is proper unit composition against colossus, zealots, some stalkers, and many void rays? Mass viking and/or banshee with anything mech on the ground. Hellions probably would be best, so you can go kill probes. | ||
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Mongolbonjwa
Finland376 Posts
On April 03 2012 07:13 FreshVegetables wrote: The thread starter Lyyna, on top of that this strategy isn't viable on high levels. When protosses get used to playing vs this, it's going to be useless. Why it is not viable? | ||
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FreshVegetables
Finland513 Posts
Sorry if I sounded offensive. Thats all I ment. I might actually give this build a try as a trollbuild  seems like fun. | ||
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crocodile
United States615 Posts
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Mongolbonjwa
Finland376 Posts
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Hider
Denmark9447 Posts
On April 03 2012 01:34 Lyyna wrote: Superior, i'm not sure, mass banshee would be terribly vulnerable in a direct fight (and i aim to win direct fights). But in the hands of a fast player able to multi-harass they would be deadly i guess also, stream in 30 minutes Have you tried testing the units in the unit tester? Banshees are a lot better against stalkers than BC's. | ||
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Norseman
United States223 Posts
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Norseman
United States223 Posts
On April 03 2012 07:38 FreshVegetables wrote: Well, it CAN be on maps with easy 3 bases and good decission making, but i think this is too immobile. Your kind of letting protoss dictate the game, therefore your relying on that the protoss doesnt know how to play vs this. I think it may win games up to lowish gm. But in all honesty i dont see this working in high level tournament play. Sorry if I sounded offensive. Thats all I ment. I might actually give this build a try as a trollbuild seems like fun.Ah, I see now where you're going. I'm not Puma. Lynna is not MarineKing. If I hit 'lowish gm' I would be the happiest guy on this board. I don't think anyone who's reading, contributing, and trying this build has any aspirations to be a professional in top tournament play. Now I refuse to arrgue if it is or isn't, being as I'm not on that scene I can't speak to that, but for the purposes of the people talking here and myself: this thread is awesome. Don't be a troll. Bad troll....bad. | ||
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Norseman
United States223 Posts
On April 03 2012 07:45 Hider wrote: Have you tried testing the units in the unit tester? Banshees are a lot better against stalkers than BC's. I think it depends on amount of stalkers. I think the BC's armor would give them a lot more staying power. Banshee deal a TON of damage, true, but if there's an observer on the field they start to fall very quickly to large stalker numbers. | ||
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Hider
Denmark9447 Posts
On April 03 2012 07:55 Norseman wrote: Ah, I see now where you're going. I'm not Puma. Lynna is not MarineKing. If I hit 'lowish gm' I would be the happiest guy on this board. I don't think anyone who's reading, contributing, and trying this build has any aspirations to be a professional in top tournament play. Now I refuse to arrgue if it is or isn't, being as I'm not on that scene I can't speak to that, but for the purposes of the people talking here and myself: this thread is awesome. Don't be a troll. Bad troll....bad. His comment was terrible, but this isn't the point. I think most people dont want to use a build that only works if the opponent doesn't know how to play. I my self at least dont really care that much about winning or losing. I wanna play right. If you just want easy "wins" then this build most likely isn't for you. | ||
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Norseman
United States223 Posts
It takes 50 minutes to develop, so if the Toss doesn't know what you're doing when you start he'll certainly know by mid-game. Despite that Lynna and others still win.This build works, even against those who know it's coming. | ||
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Snoodles
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