[G] Lyyna’s TvP : How to mech every protoss cry - Page 10

-BC. As much as possible
-Ravens. These dudes are what make protoss air bad, and what makes BC powerful. No More Stalkers, No More Void Rays, No More Carriers. At least 4 of them.
-Ghosts . Not too much (15 is too much). Getting like 6-8 is OK , as EMP is an AOE skill . . so you don’t need to mass ghosts to EMP everything
-Tanks. Your core units. Basically, you mass them during mid games, so you should have more than 10 tanks. Keeping them alive is the key
-Thors. Just a few for tanking and obs sniping, and because they’re still really good
-Hellions. These poors guys are here to die and be replaced, but it’s always good to have some.

-Banshees and vikings : Ok, so basically BC are better in most situations ,especially with ravens , but sometimes you can get them (not enough gas, cant afford to sac supply or wait for BC to come out , forgetting fusion core like a retard,etc), so you’ll have to get these. Vikings aren’t that bad versus protoss air, and banshees are really good in every situation.

-Banshees. They’re the key,why? because as long as you snipe obs with thors, you can’t LOOSE a battle.

On March 26 2012 19:38 Danglars wrote:
Interesting note on the Battlecruisers/Banshees and a focus on sniping obs to make cloaked banshees effective. I mean, this guide is more properly titled Turtle Terran or Mech/Air Terran (Airmech?)

1. As much as possible, not mech
2. At least 4 of non-mechanical units.
3. 6-8 of nonmechanical units
4. First mech unit, core units
5. Just a few mech units, used for obs sniping and a little main army incorporation
6. Your throwaway trade mass zealot mech unit.

Non-mech, Nonmech, Nonmech, Mech, Mech, Mech. Kinda even, I'd say?

You literally can't "loose" a battle. You can lose a battle, you can be ground into nothing by superior forces, and you can suffer defeats in battle. You can loosen shoelaces, loose the dogs, and play loose. Making this word all caps makes the spelling mistake an eyesore, but with an easy correction, your guide will look all that much more polished.

Well, concluding with that help wouldn't be all so good. So I will say, I'm a masters Protoss that dies to this once in a while (Usually with more PFs). The strength is of the strategy is the rarity of the strategy. Gotta refocus my mind from defending drops and building to max and focus on taking bases and picking my counter (Usually mass air and mass gateways just in case I can punch a big enough hole in his defenses). Good luck, Terrans. I don't find this style fun at all, but you may.

Usually i do have 3 barracks, 2 reactored fact, 5 techlabbed fact, and 2 techlabbed starports. So just add 3 techlabbed starport, fusion core, and . . . let’s the game begin !

On March 26 2012 21:54 Fossa wrote:
high templar, zealot, stalker

On March 26 2012 21:54 Fossa wrote:
high templar, zealot, stalker

On March 26 2012 16:36 Lyyna wrote:
@Zarent : with sensors towers, i see you coming with your stalkers, so by the time they blink up, there is banshees,hellions,and a raven on the cliff starting to fire,with a few tanks on the way. Basically hellions with proper micro handle stalkers really well, so with banshees in pdd,this is ridiculously easy. And if the stalker's number is too high,i'll just wait my tanks to engage. And the longer it lasts, the more BC and raven i'll get . . .

If i choose to attack your army, i can just choose to set a trap for your stalkers as soon as i see them retreat , remember i can track with sensor towers and my mass orbitals

Considering your others statements amd McTeazy's one, i think than like some others people, you didn't watch any replays and just react to "Mech TvP", assuming my style is some 2 bases blind turtle

On March 27 2012 02:10 McTeazy wrote:


And you completely fail to address any questions about your strategy. The issue i'm trying to get at is the problem mech has with every matchup. the direct engagements are typically very good, but your immobility is easy to abuse. specifically in tvp, blink stalkers and immortal drops i believe would be hard to deal with. The other disadvantage is that a direct engagement i don't think would necessarily go in your favour in tvp. but i may be wrong about the second point.

also, i may be wrong, but i sensor towers don't show units on the mini map do they? this kind of limits your response time (i;m imagining thors and tanks trying to crunch up a ramp into a main)

On March 27 2012 02:10 McTeazy wrote:


And you completely fail to address any questions about your strategy. The issue i'm trying to get at is the problem mech has with every matchup. the direct engagements are typically very good, but your immobility is easy to abuse. specifically in tvp, blink stalkers and immortal drops i believe would be hard to deal with. The other disadvantage is that a direct engagement i don't think would necessarily go in your favour in tvp. but i may be wrong about the second point.

also, i may be wrong, but i sensor towers don't show units on the mini map do they? this kind of limits your response time (i;m imagining thors and tanks trying to crunch up a ramp into a main)

On March 27 2012 02:50 MockHamill wrote:
If you go for a fast banshee while building CC in base (like you do in most of the replays), is it best to change the build if you spot a 4-gate incoming or just carry on? I suspect that the 4-gate will hit long before the banshee has cloak but I am not sure.