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Discarder
Profile Joined July 2012
Philippines411 Posts
October 19 2012 06:19 GMT
#201
As of current metagame, This build is kaputt. Gas earlier than 3rd/early ling speed is obvious that something cheesy is coming. The only all-in viable is stephano's 12 max roach nowadays.
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TangSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada1866 Posts
October 19 2012 06:36 GMT
#202
On October 19 2012 15:19 Discarder wrote:
As of current metagame, This build is kaputt. Gas earlier than 3rd/early ling speed is obvious that something cheesy is coming. The only all-in viable is stephano's 12 max roach nowadays.

I'd argue the roach maxout is among the least viable all-ins nowadays, with so many players going blind immortal/sentry.
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Lucoda
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Ireland183 Posts
January 12 2013 19:00 GMT
#203
Is this still viable?
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Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
January 12 2013 19:14 GMT
#204
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Lucoda
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Ireland183 Posts
January 12 2013 19:46 GMT
#205
I'm being serious, i used it abit before and had good succsess with it, can anyone tell me if its viable or not?
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Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 12 2013 20:08 GMT
#206
On January 13 2013 04:46 LucoxP wrote:
I'm being serious, i used it abit before and had good succsess with it, can anyone tell me if its viable or not?
It's still a very strong build. A great way to punish protoss players who play too greedy but if the protoss respondes in a proper fashion, i.e. just chrono sentries/build extra cannons when they see 6 lings + fast gas + late hatch, you should have a hard time to kill him. The reason can be very effective since alot of protosses do in fact NOT respond to scouting information correctly, especially in lower legues.

I'm guessing it's a bit less viable because more and more protosses have begun to realize that sacrifising a bit economy isn't a big deal when zerg is opening fast gas because the zergs economy will be suffering as well. Still, I think you will rack up quite a few wins on ladder using this build, and this is also a good way to throw someone of in a BoX series.
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
January 12 2013 20:15 GMT
#207
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ProfessionalNoob
Profile Joined October 2012
United States75 Posts
January 13 2013 07:12 GMT
#208
Yes, it's viable. But like others have said, it depends on him not scouting the all-in before it hits. If he scouts, he can completely wall and drop like, 5 canons and still be way ahead.
TangSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada1866 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-22 15:11:30
January 22 2013 15:10 GMT
#209
On January 13 2013 04:00 LucoxP wrote:
Is this still viable?

It is still a viable meta-game tactic, especially if you. . .
a) Open with other gas-first builds that aren't as all-in.
b) Deny Probe scouting of the main, later, the cancelled expansion.
c) Hold Xel-Naga towers and clear any Zealots/Probes moving across the map before they see your Roaches.

I would say Protoss players are a bit more experienced and efficient at defending against this build now - it used to be much more devastating - but it is still viable at any level. I've even been using it in HotS with moderate success.
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