EPTI've been using this build and its been working out pretty well, but I've got some questions about going against mech. When do you really scout out what direction they are going, ie. mech or bio? I think it is after you start your upgrades, but do you feel the +1 melee upgrade is kind of wasted early on when they are going mech?
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SirPsychoMantis
United States180 Posts
I've been using this build and its been working out pretty well, but I've got some questions about going against mech. When do you really scout out what direction they are going, ie. mech or bio? I think it is after you start your upgrades, but do you feel the +1 melee upgrade is kind of wasted early on when they are going mech? | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
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Indrium
United States2236 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On April 19 2012 06:56 Indrium wrote: Do you still not like roach speech? I see Stephano use it fairly well in the midgame with roach/ling/infestor, even against Marine/tank. I am still personally against committing heavily to roaches only vs marine/tank. A lot of terrans now of days add marauders or go more tank heavy which decimates roaches if they are going typical marine/tank. Idk I still dislike it heavily but that's just personal opinion of course. | ||
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Indrium
United States2236 Posts
On April 19 2012 07:04 blade55555 wrote: I am still personally against committing heavily to roaches only vs marine/tank. A lot of terrans now of days add marauders or go more tank heavy which decimates roaches if they are going typical marine/tank. Idk I still dislike it heavily but that's just personal opinion of course. Gotcha, nice to have a mix of views to roll around in my head. Thanks! | ||
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chlindell
Sweden68 Posts
In both games I saw the terran went 1-rax FE but I'm not sure how much that mattered? | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On May 30 2012 22:13 chlindell wrote: In your video tutorials I noticed you getting 4 queens instead of 3 and a later warren, you also seemed to skip the spine crawler. Is that something you are just experimenting with or is it your new standard opening and if so, do you plan to update the guide? In both games I saw the terran went 1-rax FE but I'm not sure how much that mattered? I changed it due to the patch, now you don't really need the spine crawler due to the queen range. I will update this guide a little bit so that it is up to date  | ||
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Lobotomist
United States1541 Posts
On May 31 2012 03:29 blade55555 wrote: I changed it due to the patch, now you don't really need the spine crawler due to the queen range. I will update this guide a little bit so that it is up to date how do you feel this build stacks up to the 6 queen opening that's recently taken over the zvt meta? The original premise of the build (roaches to push back hellions for creep spread) is handled pretty well with the gasless queen build, which also seems less vulnerable to banshees. Can you enlighten us with your thoughts on the similarities/differences between the two builds? | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On July 11 2012 03:35 Lobotomist wrote: how do you feel this build stacks up to the 6 queen opening that's recently taken over the zvt meta? The original premise of the build (roaches to push back hellions for creep spread) is handled pretty well with the gasless queen build, which also seems less vulnerable to banshees. Can you enlighten us with your thoughts on the similarities/differences between the two builds? Eh I dont' like the 6 queen build to much, I like the 4 queen build and then adding in roaches but 6 queens idk I know it's good but I just don't like it to much. If I suspect banshees or something i'll add more queens but otherwise I am just doing 4 queens, roach warren and all that fun stuff. 6 queen is strong but I think it could be exploitable by terran as they can be extremely greedy and not much you can do to punish it and all that. Idk I prefer 4 and i'll probably stick with 4 ^^. | ||
EsportsJohn
United States4883 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On July 11 2012 04:07 SC2John wrote: Oh hahaha, I was totally about to BLOW THIS BUILD UP. Then I realized it was from January. Yeah, this started to become the standard right before the queen upgrade, especially for Stephano. I like this idea even now, although I feel like you can probably go for that 3rd hatch before putting down the roach warren. This allows you to get the early hatchery still while still being prepared to defend versus an early attack as well as push back the hellions. In the new metagame, 4 queens is generally more than enough to hold off hellion pressure and continue spreading creep. That is correct, I do want to state I was using roaches before anyone else started using them (since beta I have always prefered using roaches early game as they so gosu vs terran :D). You are right though you can take a third easily before roach warren and you'll be just fine. It is actually what I do most of the time now of days :D. | ||
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Asolmanx
Italy141 Posts
5:30-5:45 - third base 5:45-6:15 - roach warren 5:30-5:40 - first evo chamber 6:00-6:30 - take a third once third starts - take gases 2,3,4 [...] Soon as you start third take last 2 gases This is very confusing to me. you get a third base at 5:30-5:45, then you say again take a third at 6:00-6:30?? Also you say when third starts get 4 gases, then you say get 6 gases... I don't understand =S | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
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