EPT[G] ZvT Roach/Ling Baneling "Big Bust" - Page 3
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Squigly
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Superlemons
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Moosegills
United States558 Posts
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TangSC
Canada1866 Posts
On January 28 2012 08:08 Moosegills wrote: I have to say that i prefer the drg version, (don't make roaches til 44 supply, along with a second gas) for a larger push, specifically with allowing for more games. This version can be seen blizzard cup final game 1 (along with another game i believe). The drg version has a lot more chance of having siege done, but also is bigger push. I really like the DRG version, use it now and then. | ||
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Squigly
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deadjawa
United States179 Posts
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Schnullerbacke13
Germany1199 Posts
9 Overlord 15 Hatchery 15 Spawning Pool 15 Extractor 16 Overlord 16 Move 3 Drone To Gas 17 Zergling 18 Queen 28 Extractor Trick 29 4*Overlord 29 2*Zergling 31 Spawn Larvae 31 Zergling 32 Extractor 31 Metabolic Boost 31 3*Zergling 34 Baneling Nest 33 2*Zergling 35 Roach Warren 34 3*Zergling 37 Spawn Larvae 37 3*Move Drone To Gas 37 2*Zergling 39 Spawn Larvae 39 Zergling 40 Spawn Larvae 40 3*Zergling 43 8*Baneling 43 8*Roach 59 6*Move Drone To Minerals 59 Zergling Waypoint 1 satisfied: 7:34,00: 296M 76G 5L 2L 0L 33E 60/ 60S Income: 717M 228G Buildings: 2 Hatchery 2 Extractor 1 Spawning Pool 1 Roach Warren 1 Baneling Nest Units: 23 Drone 7 Overlord 1 Queen 30 Zergling 8 Roach 8 Baneling Upgrades: Metabolic Boost | ||
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KawaiiRice
United States2914 Posts
On January 28 2012 22:46 deadjawa wrote: The thing that's great about this play is that it is a perfect response to all the 3 cc plays that Terran is doing these days. Playing a macro game against such a build is complete hell, so us zergs have a duty to keep Terrans honest by frequently mixing in busts. Terrans have no right to complain about cheese, because heavy macro plays are equally as cheesy in my opinion. allins are good but lets not kid ourselves and call this a response to 3 cc... because its blind oo~ | ||
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mrGRAPE
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rockslave
Brazil318 Posts
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oOOoOphidian
United States1402 Posts
On January 28 2012 22:50 KawaiiRice wrote: allins are good but lets not kid ourselves and call this a response to 3 cc... because its blind oo~ True, but wouldn't the later roach/baneling attack ala DRG work as well? I've seen 3cc hold that before, but even then it usually puts the players at least even and keeps the terran defensive for a short while. That one can be done more reactively after an overlord scout and other ways to confirm it's 3cc. | ||
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KawaiiRice
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DaCheF
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jonaa
Netherlands151 Posts
1: Roaches are slow moving roaches across map should give terran time to build bunkers while if you suddenly stream 30 lings across terran has no time to react. 2: Roach warren costs money and roaches cost alot of supply so you spend alot of money on overlords with your all in I'd say if you would roach bane bust you should do a later one I think the percentage of times where you just straight out win is around the same maybe a little less. It's alot safer and lets you play out alot of games where you did damage but couldnt overrun. What this build seems to me is you looked at a roach bane agression and created an all in build out of it wich is just as potent at killing as the original but doesnt have a follow up. Either way it can catch alot of people off gaurd and you should get a decent amount of build order wins against really greedy 3cc while teching or double reactor w/e. P.S. cant quick 3 cc hold almost anything if reacted '' perfectly ''. I mean techincally you retreive back like 75% of the cost of the CC itself after dropping a mule? | ||
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Cosmology
Canada360 Posts
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RabidSeagull
United States220 Posts
On January 29 2012 04:07 Cosmology wrote: So basically you just copied jEcho's build and call it your own now? I'm not trying to randomly flame you like you are tang, but most of the "builds" on these forums that people write guides for have been done by different players long before they ever get posted here whether or not the OP knows it or not. A roach bling bust . . . . yeah other people have probably done it, doesn't mean you have to be a dick about it. This is a pretty cool all-in to keep terrans on their toes, nice guide Tang! | ||
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Usyless
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Moosegills
United States558 Posts
On January 28 2012 22:50 KawaiiRice wrote: allins are good but lets not kid ourselves and call this a response to 3 cc... because its blind oo~ But at the same time doing a 3rd cc is blind too. Terrans just feel safe because they can make it in their main. | ||
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KawaiiRice
United States2914 Posts
On January 29 2012 05:08 Moosegills wrote: But at the same time doing a 3rd cc is blind too. Terrans just feel safe because they can make it in their main. entirely missing my point but ok | ||
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Moosegills
United States558 Posts
I know that wasn't your point, but it is the reason there are so many roach type all ins now zvt is because every terran and their mother is going fast 3rd cc, so zergs are blindly trying to metagame. | ||
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