Starcraft 2 Spawn patterns

On September 30 2011 06:51 Geovu wrote:
Shakuras Plateau was originally a 2v2 map, which is why spawn locations are like that.

TBH from the looks of it it would have been a lot better than most of the other flaming turds in the 2v2 map pool.

On September 30 2011 07:57 Trusty wrote:
If you're on Shattered Temple, or Metalpolis..

..Playing PvT you have a 75% chance for close positions...

..Playing ZvP you have a 75% chance for close positions...

..Playing ZvT you have a 75% chance for close positions...

100% proven fact.

On September 30 2011 08:00 zakmaa wrote:


Uhh... Where did you get these statistics? I play Z and I definitely never spawn anywhere near to even 40% of my games in close spawns on those maps. If the computer completely randomizes it then you actually have a 33% chance for close spawns on those two maps..

And to the OP, your observation is correct. Shakuras has pre-selected spawns, however as everyone else is saying it's the only map with such modifications.

On September 30 2011 08:07 remember87 wrote:

hehe he was 100% serious... not!

On September 30 2011 08:15 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:


I don't understand the desire to go out of your way just to not be helpful.

On September 30 2011 06:45 TehTemplar wrote:

We don't have to imagine... just load up Searing Crater ^^

On September 30 2011 08:21 Iksf wrote:
Yea that rush distance is SO short. Honestly what was blizzard smoking when they made that

On September 30 2011 06:25 lordsurya08 wrote:
I was looking at the TL wiki's page for Shakuras Plateau and I noticed this:

"Players always spawn in left versus right positions (i.e., positions 1 or 5 versus 7 or 11)."

This was a revelation for me as I thought that spawns were random - but apparently not. Are there spawning patterns for other maps? If so, what are they? Is there a page that lists all the patterns?

On September 30 2011 08:17 Trusty wrote:


It's called a joke.

The desire to go out of your way to make others laugh.

On September 30 2011 06:25 lordsurya08 wrote:
I was looking at the TL wiki's page for Shakuras Plateau and I noticed this:

"Players always spawn in left versus right positions (i.e., positions 1 or 5 versus 7 or 11)."

This was a revelation for me as I thought that spawns were random - but apparently not. Are there spawning patterns for other maps? If so, what are they? Is there a page that lists all the patterns?

On September 30 2011 09:06 michaelhasanalias wrote:



I think it's worth noting that few people realize Shakuras Plateau is actually translationally symmetrical, not bilaterally symmetrical. Also, the pathing from any given main to either opposite main passes through the same midpoint in the map.



If you look closely, the top left and bottom right positions are actually the closest rush distances you can get. Bottom left and top right are the furthest, and then either close air positions are in the middle. The rush distance is something like 5-7 seconds for zerglings between the close and far cross position spawns.

What all this means is that if you fear some kind of rush, and you spawn on the left side of the map, you should always scout bottom right first because it's always the closer of the two positions. If you spawn on the right side of the map, you should always scout top left first.

A game-related application of this would be like so:

In PvZ if Protoss opts for a 13 forge to fast expand, he will die to a well executed 6 pool if he spawned top left and zerg was bottom right. However, he will be completely safe if he spawned top right and the zerg spawned bottom left. Those five extra seconds allow enough time for the cannon to complete before the wall can go down. Conversely, those five fewer seconds allow the zerg to dismantle the wall and take down the cannon, killing the protoss if he tried to complete the wall instead of pylon/cannoning his mineral line.

On October 01 2011 05:41 lordsurya08 wrote:


No one laughed.

Lame troll is lame.

On October 01 2011 07:47 samuraibael wrote:
I hate it when people dont get a joke and blame the other person by calling them a troll.

On October 01 2011 07:47 samuraibael wrote:
I hate it when people dont get a joke and blame the other person by calling them a troll.

On October 01 2011 07:52 Trusty wrote:


Yeah it's pretty sad..

On September 30 2011 09:06 michaelhasanalias wrote:



I think it's worth noting that few people realize Shakuras Plateau is actually translationally symmetrical, not bilaterally symmetrical. Also, the pathing from any given main to either opposite main passes through the same midpoint in the map.



If you look closely, the top left and bottom right positions are actually the closest rush distances you can get. Bottom left and top right are the furthest, and then either close air positions are in the middle. The rush distance is something like 5-7 seconds for zerglings between the close and far cross position spawns.

What all this means is that if you fear some kind of rush, and you spawn on the left side of the map, you should always scout bottom right first because it's always the closer of the two positions. If you spawn on the right side of the map, you should always scout top left first.

A game-related application of this would be like so:

In PvZ if Protoss opts for a 13 forge to fast expand, he will die to a well executed 6 pool if he spawned top left and zerg was bottom right. However, he will be completely safe if he spawned top right and the zerg spawned bottom left. Those five extra seconds allow enough time for the cannon to complete before the wall can go down. Conversely, those five fewer seconds allow the zerg to dismantle the wall and take down the cannon, killing the protoss if he tried to complete the wall instead of pylon/cannoning his mineral line.

On September 30 2011 07:57 Trusty wrote:
If you're on Shattered Temple, or Metalpolis..

..Playing PvT you have a 75% chance for close positions...

..Playing ZvP you have a 75% chance for close positions...

..Playing ZvT you have a 75% chance for close positions...

100% proven fact.

On October 01 2011 08:18 envisioN . wrote:


FYI That's a picture of the old version of Shakuras Plateau. I believe on the new one the pathing between close by air spawns will go past the Xel'Naga tower instead of through the middle.

On September 30 2011 07:57 Trusty wrote:
If you're on Shattered Temple, or Metalpolis..

..Playing PvT you have a 75% chance for close positions...

..Playing ZvP you have a 75% chance for close positions...

..Playing ZvT you have a 75% chance for close positions...

100% proven fact.

On October 01 2011 09:07 xsevR wrote:


Someone really didn't get the sarcasm here? No need to attack the poster for being dense, I don't think he was trying to mislead anyone lol.

On October 01 2011 12:01 lordsurya08 wrote:


I got the sarcasm. He wasn't trying to mislead anyone - he was making a pointless comment, and that was inappropriate

"In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog" - Wikipedia

On October 01 2011 12:32 NTTemplar wrote:


Way to do selective quoting...

"In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[3] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion." - Wikipedia

I even highlighted the important part; and with that said it should be clear he wasn't trolling.