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ComBro1
Profile Joined March 2011
80 Posts
September 19 2011 20:44 GMT
#61
great post, helped bump up my apm 30 lol.. makes me wish i had a 6th finger on my left hand to go even faster
raebodupdep
Profile Joined June 2011
United States11 Posts
September 19 2011 21:05 GMT
#62
Thanks for the thread, OP. It helped me realize that I can have 2 keybinds for "Infested Marine" spam. I find it safer to do it this way than shift+clicking.
It's a trap!
Ponyo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1231 Posts
September 19 2011 21:10 GMT
#63
Pretty interesting. Maybe if I get into grandmasters I can worry about this kind of stuff. Few weeks ago I changed my attack from A to space and lost like 50 games. But im used to it now !
ponyo.848
whoopingchow
Profile Joined June 2011
United States293 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 22:41:46
September 19 2011 22:37 GMT
#64
On September 20 2011 03:50 Existor wrote:
Isn't it better to hold hotkey and it will repeat with fastest speed?


And then go back and cancel if you queue up too many units/overmake a certain type of unit? True, you want speed, but precision is more important than speed every time.
LoveIsSimple
Profile Joined August 2011
United States14 Posts
September 20 2011 00:15 GMT
#65
I have been playing stringed instruments for the past ten years. I am also very very much into anything that has to do with manual dexterity and small finger movements.

At the limits of manual dexterity it is much faster to flutter or tremolo two fingers than it is to move just one. For example: even if pressing r didn't do anything it would be faster to press "ererer" then "eee". If you factor in that pressing "r" in this situation would actually do something as well then it's a nobrainer pressing "ere" is at least twice as fast as pressing "eee". From a purely physical perspective not doing this would be sub-optimal in my opinion.
Leeoku
Profile Joined May 2010
1617 Posts
September 20 2011 00:21 GMT
#66
yea this was something i got lazy around but wanted to do. The first thing i noticed was the backspace inject method and i reconfigured it to soemthing i like better. this definetly does show the power of custom hotkeys and the benefits it can bring. one may argue this just makes sc2 easier blablabla. regardless everyone (pros) will reach the same level of mechanics and this just tweaks it to ur flavour and make it more down to strategy/execution
XDJuicebox
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States593 Posts
September 20 2011 00:32 GMT
#67
Thanks for all of the love everyone

Hope you all learned something from this ^_^

Btw, as Zerg, I simply use my screenkeys to check if I need to inject or not.
And then you know what happened all of a sudden?
Broskeezie
Profile Joined January 2011
United States22 Posts
September 21 2011 03:30 GMT
#68
Thanks, I'm using this setup now.
XDJuicebox
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States593 Posts
September 21 2011 05:48 GMT
#69
On September 21 2011 12:30 Broskeezie wrote:
Thanks, I'm using this setup now.


You're welcome! :D
And then you know what happened all of a sudden?
Techno
Profile Joined June 2010
1900 Posts
September 21 2011 06:07 GMT
#70
What do you use 1,2, & 3 for?
Hell, its awesome to LOSE to nukes!
XDJuicebox
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States593 Posts
September 21 2011 06:13 GMT
#71
On September 21 2011 15:07 Techno wrote:
What do you use 1,2, & 3 for?


They're function keys. 2 is Hold Position, 3 is Patrol, 1 is a miscellaneous action (Hold Fire, Liftoff, etc.)

It's in one of the spoilers somewhere
And then you know what happened all of a sudden?
Broskeezie
Profile Joined January 2011
United States22 Posts
September 21 2011 09:10 GMT
#72
I'm pretty used to the hotkeys now, and I have to say that they're definitely worth switching to. I'm macroing much better now, I just have to get used to using spells more fluidly (like scanning up a ramp, EMPing with ghosts, then stimming and attacking).

I'd been using double-hotkeys for making marines for a while now (A and S), but this is really nice. Thanks!
Towni
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria144 Posts
September 21 2011 09:58 GMT
#73
Hm, these double hotkeys work for ghost's snipe as well?

could be pretty useful there.
hassook
Profile Joined November 2010
United Arab Emirates16 Posts
September 21 2011 11:06 GMT
#74
As i play random, these kind of hotkeys is purely impossible!!

I just use the same hot keys blizzard with no further modification except for screen views where i utilize the F1 to F4 with the shift key..
MrTortoise
Profile Joined January 2011
1388 Posts
September 21 2011 11:27 GMT
#75
There is a lot of allegedly constructive flaming going on. Keyboard layout is clearly important, coming from a guitarist who shreds several hours a day the standard layout and spreading of group hotkeys from 1->0 leads to some really nasty hand stretches. If you can configure your way out of it you have reduced a source of tension.

Musicians learn to play things that sound hard but are actually exceptionally easy to play once you break it down sufficiently and out of context.

'I really think you should of spent the time writing this playing the game as then you would be better' is just a hack to get around admins to say 'L2P Noob'

Hossinaut
Profile Joined June 2011
United States453 Posts
September 21 2011 14:04 GMT
#76
I use standard hotkeys, those are enough for me...
I just remapped a few so that I am aware of where they are and what they do, like screen hotkeys to f2-f5 as well as upgrades (melee, ranged, and carapace) to a,s,d respectively, just to make life faster... theres a few just little things like the, but I've kept the vast majority of the hotkeys standard. My friend uses grid, but I didn't like it when I was trying it out.

Such an alteration of the hotkeys doesn't seem to be truly beneficial as it can't adapt very well, and your hands get used to odd setups. I like the use of the alternate hotkey for each action, but beyond that, it seems pointless to fix what isn't broken... idk it just seems like you could also hurt your hand because it doesn't seem a very natural setup, like grid/standard is (more, anyway)... idk though
XDJuicebox
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States593 Posts
September 21 2011 14:21 GMT
#77
On September 21 2011 23:04 Hossinaut wrote:
I use standard hotkeys, those are enough for me...
I just remapped a few so that I am aware of where they are and what they do, like screen hotkeys to f2-f5 as well as upgrades (melee, ranged, and carapace) to a,s,d respectively, just to make life faster... theres a few just little things like the, but I've kept the vast majority of the hotkeys standard. My friend uses grid, but I didn't like it when I was trying it out.

Such an alteration of the hotkeys doesn't seem to be truly beneficial as it can't adapt very well, and your hands get used to odd setups. I like the use of the alternate hotkey for each action, but beyond that, it seems pointless to fix what isn't broken... idk it just seems like you could also hurt your hand because it doesn't seem a very natural setup, like grid/standard is (more, anyway)... idk though


Well..I type a lot, so I basically just moved everything my left hand hits when I type.
And then you know what happened all of a sudden?
_TosH_
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5 Posts
September 21 2011 15:44 GMT
#78
Sounds very efficient, now I can put the missing keys back in my keyboard. Gf will appreciate that. : )
entrust
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland196 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-21 16:16:13
September 21 2011 16:15 GMT
#79
OMG so much hate on TL as always.
I've always used my own hotkeys, and I've always seen ways to improve configuration.
For example I'm using ALT+1-0 to create groups. I don't like your configuration, but if it's working for you I see nothing bad in it. Mine is working well for me.
I use R for most of my skills
soccerdude
Profile Joined May 2011
United States54 Posts
September 21 2011 21:00 GMT
#80
Dude, thsi is a beast guide. Very well thought out, good write up and all the other juicy compliments. Just make sure if you play me you dont use those hotkeys, :D. i see your high diamond so if you wanna play soemtime im up for it. Im high diamodn toss, XelnagaCUByo 299. For a while i was playing masters, bu tthen i went on losing streak sooooooo...... good job on the post keep up the good work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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