• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:01
CEST 17:01
KST 00:01
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro4 Preview: On Course12Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview7[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors8Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16
Community News
Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win1Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !10Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event12Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results1
StarCraft 2
General
MaNa leaves Team Liquid Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple
Tourneys
2026 GSL Season 2 Qualifiers $5,000 WardiTV Spring Championship 2026 Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! SC2 INu's Battles#16 <BO.9> Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 525 Wheel of Misfortune The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes Mutation # 523 Firewall
Brood War
General
ASL Tickets to Live Event Finals? Flashes ASL S21 Ro8 Review BW General Discussion Pros React To: Leta vs Tulbo (ASL S21, Ro.8) (Spoiler) Interview ASL Ro4 Day 2 Winner
Tourneys
[ASL21] Semifinals B [ASL21] Semifinals A [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL22] RO16 Group Stage - 02 - 10 May
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game PC Games Sales Thread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How EEG Data Can Predict Gam…
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1563 users

Juicebox's "Double Hotkey" Setup - Page 4

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Strategy
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next All
ComBro1
Profile Joined March 2011
80 Posts
September 19 2011 20:44 GMT
#61
great post, helped bump up my apm 30 lol.. makes me wish i had a 6th finger on my left hand to go even faster
raebodupdep
Profile Joined June 2011
United States11 Posts
September 19 2011 21:05 GMT
#62
Thanks for the thread, OP. It helped me realize that I can have 2 keybinds for "Infested Marine" spam. I find it safer to do it this way than shift+clicking.
It's a trap!
Ponyo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1231 Posts
September 19 2011 21:10 GMT
#63
Pretty interesting. Maybe if I get into grandmasters I can worry about this kind of stuff. Few weeks ago I changed my attack from A to space and lost like 50 games. But im used to it now !
ponyo.848
whoopingchow
Profile Joined June 2011
United States293 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 22:41:46
September 19 2011 22:37 GMT
#64
On September 20 2011 03:50 Existor wrote:
Isn't it better to hold hotkey and it will repeat with fastest speed?


And then go back and cancel if you queue up too many units/overmake a certain type of unit? True, you want speed, but precision is more important than speed every time.
LoveIsSimple
Profile Joined August 2011
United States14 Posts
September 20 2011 00:15 GMT
#65
I have been playing stringed instruments for the past ten years. I am also very very much into anything that has to do with manual dexterity and small finger movements.

At the limits of manual dexterity it is much faster to flutter or tremolo two fingers than it is to move just one. For example: even if pressing r didn't do anything it would be faster to press "ererer" then "eee". If you factor in that pressing "r" in this situation would actually do something as well then it's a nobrainer pressing "ere" is at least twice as fast as pressing "eee". From a purely physical perspective not doing this would be sub-optimal in my opinion.
Leeoku
Profile Joined May 2010
1617 Posts
September 20 2011 00:21 GMT
#66
yea this was something i got lazy around but wanted to do. The first thing i noticed was the backspace inject method and i reconfigured it to soemthing i like better. this definetly does show the power of custom hotkeys and the benefits it can bring. one may argue this just makes sc2 easier blablabla. regardless everyone (pros) will reach the same level of mechanics and this just tweaks it to ur flavour and make it more down to strategy/execution
XDJuicebox
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States593 Posts
September 20 2011 00:32 GMT
#67
Thanks for all of the love everyone

Hope you all learned something from this ^_^

Btw, as Zerg, I simply use my screenkeys to check if I need to inject or not.
And then you know what happened all of a sudden?
Broskeezie
Profile Joined January 2011
United States22 Posts
September 21 2011 03:30 GMT
#68
Thanks, I'm using this setup now.
XDJuicebox
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States593 Posts
September 21 2011 05:48 GMT
#69
On September 21 2011 12:30 Broskeezie wrote:
Thanks, I'm using this setup now.


You're welcome! :D
And then you know what happened all of a sudden?
Techno
Profile Joined June 2010
1900 Posts
September 21 2011 06:07 GMT
#70
What do you use 1,2, & 3 for?
Hell, its awesome to LOSE to nukes!
XDJuicebox
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States593 Posts
September 21 2011 06:13 GMT
#71
On September 21 2011 15:07 Techno wrote:
What do you use 1,2, & 3 for?


They're function keys. 2 is Hold Position, 3 is Patrol, 1 is a miscellaneous action (Hold Fire, Liftoff, etc.)

It's in one of the spoilers somewhere
And then you know what happened all of a sudden?
Broskeezie
Profile Joined January 2011
United States22 Posts
September 21 2011 09:10 GMT
#72
I'm pretty used to the hotkeys now, and I have to say that they're definitely worth switching to. I'm macroing much better now, I just have to get used to using spells more fluidly (like scanning up a ramp, EMPing with ghosts, then stimming and attacking).

I'd been using double-hotkeys for making marines for a while now (A and S), but this is really nice. Thanks!
Towni
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria144 Posts
September 21 2011 09:58 GMT
#73
Hm, these double hotkeys work for ghost's snipe as well?

could be pretty useful there.
hassook
Profile Joined November 2010
United Arab Emirates16 Posts
September 21 2011 11:06 GMT
#74
As i play random, these kind of hotkeys is purely impossible!!

I just use the same hot keys blizzard with no further modification except for screen views where i utilize the F1 to F4 with the shift key..
MrTortoise
Profile Joined January 2011
1388 Posts
September 21 2011 11:27 GMT
#75
There is a lot of allegedly constructive flaming going on. Keyboard layout is clearly important, coming from a guitarist who shreds several hours a day the standard layout and spreading of group hotkeys from 1->0 leads to some really nasty hand stretches. If you can configure your way out of it you have reduced a source of tension.

Musicians learn to play things that sound hard but are actually exceptionally easy to play once you break it down sufficiently and out of context.

'I really think you should of spent the time writing this playing the game as then you would be better' is just a hack to get around admins to say 'L2P Noob'

Hossinaut
Profile Joined June 2011
United States453 Posts
September 21 2011 14:04 GMT
#76
I use standard hotkeys, those are enough for me...
I just remapped a few so that I am aware of where they are and what they do, like screen hotkeys to f2-f5 as well as upgrades (melee, ranged, and carapace) to a,s,d respectively, just to make life faster... theres a few just little things like the, but I've kept the vast majority of the hotkeys standard. My friend uses grid, but I didn't like it when I was trying it out.

Such an alteration of the hotkeys doesn't seem to be truly beneficial as it can't adapt very well, and your hands get used to odd setups. I like the use of the alternate hotkey for each action, but beyond that, it seems pointless to fix what isn't broken... idk it just seems like you could also hurt your hand because it doesn't seem a very natural setup, like grid/standard is (more, anyway)... idk though
XDJuicebox
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States593 Posts
September 21 2011 14:21 GMT
#77
On September 21 2011 23:04 Hossinaut wrote:
I use standard hotkeys, those are enough for me...
I just remapped a few so that I am aware of where they are and what they do, like screen hotkeys to f2-f5 as well as upgrades (melee, ranged, and carapace) to a,s,d respectively, just to make life faster... theres a few just little things like the, but I've kept the vast majority of the hotkeys standard. My friend uses grid, but I didn't like it when I was trying it out.

Such an alteration of the hotkeys doesn't seem to be truly beneficial as it can't adapt very well, and your hands get used to odd setups. I like the use of the alternate hotkey for each action, but beyond that, it seems pointless to fix what isn't broken... idk it just seems like you could also hurt your hand because it doesn't seem a very natural setup, like grid/standard is (more, anyway)... idk though


Well..I type a lot, so I basically just moved everything my left hand hits when I type.
And then you know what happened all of a sudden?
_TosH_
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5 Posts
September 21 2011 15:44 GMT
#78
Sounds very efficient, now I can put the missing keys back in my keyboard. Gf will appreciate that. : )
entrust
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland196 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-21 16:16:13
September 21 2011 16:15 GMT
#79
OMG so much hate on TL as always.
I've always used my own hotkeys, and I've always seen ways to improve configuration.
For example I'm using ALT+1-0 to create groups. I don't like your configuration, but if it's working for you I see nothing bad in it. Mine is working well for me.
I use R for most of my skills
soccerdude
Profile Joined May 2011
United States54 Posts
September 21 2011 21:00 GMT
#80
Dude, thsi is a beast guide. Very well thought out, good write up and all the other juicy compliments. Just make sure if you play me you dont use those hotkeys, :D. i see your high diamond so if you wanna play soemtime im up for it. Im high diamodn toss, XelnagaCUByo 299. For a while i was playing masters, bu tthen i went on losing streak sooooooo...... good job on the post keep up the good work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
soccer
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Kung Fu Cup
11:00
#7
IntoTheiNu 1366
WardiTV768
RotterdaM575
TKL 252
SteadfastSC123
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 575
TKL 252
Rex 145
SteadfastSC 123
sc2solar 67
herO (SOOP) 48
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 92738
Calm 7543
Bisu 2563
Sea 1935
Horang2 1116
EffOrt 1097
firebathero 654
Mini 595
Soma 402
Larva 303
[ Show more ]
ZerO 214
Hyuk 207
hero 184
Rush 136
Zeus 119
ggaemo 85
Aegong 80
Pusan 64
Sharp 61
Mind 58
Sexy 57
ToSsGirL 52
sorry 47
Bale 23
Rock 20
soO 18
Terrorterran 15
IntoTheRainbow 11
ajuk12(nOOB) 8
Dota 2
Gorgc7580
qojqva1533
syndereN258
monkeys_forever134
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2531
byalli628
kRYSTAL_48
Other Games
singsing1961
Beastyqt978
B2W.Neo920
hiko718
Liquid`RaSZi342
Lowko319
Hui .271
KnowMe123
Mew2King106
QueenE96
elazer56
CosmosSc2 54
ArmadaUGS53
Livibee25
ZerO(Twitch)23
Trikslyr18
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• poizon28 10
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 28
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis6002
Other Games
• WagamamaTV313
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
8h 59m
The PondCast
18h 59m
OSC
18h 59m
Replay Cast
1d 8h
RSL Revival
1d 18h
OSC
1d 21h
Korean StarCraft League
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
BSL
3 days
GSL
3 days
Cure vs herO
SHIN vs Maru
[ Show More ]
BSL
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
GSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-05-12
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W7
YSL S3
Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
2026 GSL S2
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026: Closed Qualifier
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.