[G] aXa's ZvP: Revisiting a Nestea's build - Page 4

Schnullerbacke13

Germany1199 Posts

October 02 2011 23:23 GMT

#61

On October 03 2011 06:56 Macrobe wrote:

This way your spines are a little too immobile and vulnerable. In close pos where there's been an FFE you might use the queen+ hatch cancel trick to do this more reliably though.

i meant you build them using hatch cancel at a somewhat hidden place near his nat, then uproot them (they don't lose health uprooted). as soon lair finishes, you move them straight to the creep, this should improve the timing by 30~40 seconds, so you can delay gas a bit and get an expo up maybe. the nydus can be somewhat delayed, as from the replay it looks like Protoss is panicing for some time as soon spines begin to poke ^^

Schnullerbacke13

Germany1199 Posts

October 02 2011 23:24 GMT

#62

fail

boon2537

United States905 Posts

October 02 2011 23:53 GMT

#63

You, sir, are making my transition to Zerg easier.
Thank you.

mirumirai

United States1 Post

October 19 2011 04:30 GMT

#64

I've been mixing this build into my repertoire. It works great against FFEs, and I've only lost a few times with it (vs high diamonds and up). When I lose, it is because they either spotted my nydus and killed it, or I didn't macro properly after they turtled with cannons in their nat (since I destroyed the main).

I'm wondering if there is a way to do the 3 spinecrawler attack and follow it up with something other than a nydus. I can hide lair and the lack of expo with lings, protect building spines, but I can't control whether he finds my nydus or not. What viable options are there? Expand and macro (will you be too far behind to do this?)? Hydras w/ creep highway? Drops (too slow?)? Delay crawlers a little bit for something else, like an expo?

Xanbatou

United States805 Posts

November 03 2011 17:01 GMT

#65

On October 19 2011 13:30 mirumirai wrote:
I've been mixing this build into my repertoire. It works great against FFEs, and I've only lost a few times with it (vs high diamonds and up). When I lose, it is because they either spotted my nydus and killed it, or I didn't macro properly after they turtled with cannons in their nat (since I destroyed the main).

I'm wondering if there is a way to do the 3 spinecrawler attack and follow it up with something other than a nydus. I can hide lair and the lack of expo with lings, protect building spines, but I can't control whether he finds my nydus or not. What viable options are there? Expand and macro (will you be too far behind to do this?)? Hydras w/ creep highway? Drops (too slow?)? Delay crawlers a little bit for something else, like an expo?

I think the key here is starving the protoss. They will mostly be focusing on holding the front by spamming cannons and etc., so the idea is that they won't start covering their base with pylons because of that. That should allow you to land a nydus without it being spotted, but there have been a couple times where I haven't been able to and I sorta had to just hope he wouldn't notice it.

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