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On May 14 2012 07:27 silly wrote:
Placing OLs in specific positions( looking at gases etc) is easier to stop in the correct position than trying to click it. And then you want to have them to move by themselves if they get attacked therefore stop instead of hold.

On May 14 2012 07:45 Amaterasu1234 wrote:
Only reason I've ever used stop was to get my scv to stop building a rax or something when a drone comes along and starts harassing it. Otherwise, hold does the job well...

On May 14 2012 10:25 Borskey wrote:
Hold positioned workers don't show up as idle. So there's 2 things you need stop for.

F1 split: say banelings are about to hit your mineral line. Box your workers, hit stop. Then hold "idle workers" down and spam right-click all over your screen as fast as you can. (If you've never done this before, go ahead and try it vs the computer. It's kind of cool and is the absolute fastest split you can do)

Cancelling a queued order for an SCV that is building something: Say I set an SCV to build a factory, and out of habit I told it to go back to minerals but I actually want this SCV to build a starport right after the factory completes, right next to the factory. To cancel the "go back to mining" command, I box the SCV and hit stop (I do not use shift). The "stop" actually gets queued to happen after the factory finishes. That way as soon as the factory finishes I see the idle worker and can just hit "idle workers" to select it. If you used hold instead of stop, the SCV never becomes idle. If you issued a move command at the SCV's feet instead, you might waste a few seconds in travel time if the SCV happens to be on the opposite side of the building when it completes.

I don't know why Amaterasu says stop gets an SCV to stop building, cause that's not what it does. I'm pretty sure you need to use "halt construction" for that.

Those are the only two that come to mind right away.

On May 14 2012 10:58 bgalang92 wrote:
Similar to the worker splitting situation explained above, sometimes during a hectic battle in my main or natural I may accidentally box probes in with my main army. When they are all mixed in with the rest of the units, it is very difficult to pull them back out for mining. In this case, I like to box my whole army, hit "stop," then select idle probes to send them back. Much faster than simple waiting for my army to finish whatever command they were doing previously.

On May 14 2012 12:11 JaKaTaK wrote:

I feel like ctrl+clicking will be faster, because the idle probes will only appear as idle when they stop moving, whereas you could ctrl+click a probe and send em all back soopa quick :D

On May 14 2012 08:44 JaKaTaK wrote:


Also Fortuantely, halt construction is different than the stop command :D

On May 14 2012 12:16 bgalang92 wrote:


While I would normally agree with you, I'm talking about a situation when a mineral line will also be on the screen, such as when I'm defending a big drop or even multiple drops when army management gets very difficult, so CTRL clicking might not be the most efficient, unless you don't mind having to reassign workers back to gas and having all your workers group up on a single patch.

On May 15 2012 14:56 bgalang92 wrote:
I'm a little confused by the last point you make xD haha. What I mean is that control clicking when a mineral line is in view is going to pull all the workers in your army AND the mining workers to the same patch before they auto split, resulting in some lost mining time, as well as having to reassign workers back to gas, something you can avoid if you stop+idle worker select, so only the idle workers will be selected..