EPTAlso same with instructions? Would be really appreciated, thanks.
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Goldfish
2230 Posts
Also same with instructions? Would be really appreciated, thanks. | ||
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FoxyMayhem
624 Posts
[Settings] AllowSetConflicts=1 [Hotkeys] FPS=Control+SemiColon Music=Control+Alt+M Sound=Control+Minus PTT=Alt+Grave MenuGame=Control+Alt+Z,F10 NamePanel=Control+Alt+N StatPanelUnitsLost=Alt+K StatPanelAPM=Alt+A AlertRecall=Backspace CameraCenter=Grave,Control+Shift+Grave CameraFollow=Minus CameraTurnLeft=Control+1 CameraTurnRight=Control+2 ControlGroupAppend0=Shift+O ControlGroupAppend1=Shift+3 ControlGroupAppend2=Shift+4 ControlGroupAppend3=Shift+5 ControlGroupAppend4=Shift+R ControlGroupAppend5=Shift+T ControlGroupAppend6=Shift+G ControlGroupAppend7=Shift+V ControlGroupAppend8=Shift+P ControlGroupAppend9=Shift+Space ControlGroupAssign0=Control+O,Alt+O ControlGroupAssign1=Control+3,Alt+3 ControlGroupAssign2=Control+4,Alt+4 ControlGroupAssign3=Control+5,Alt+5 ControlGroupAssign4=Control+R,Alt+R ControlGroupAssign5=Control+T,Alt+T ControlGroupAssign6=Control+G,Alt+G ControlGroupAssign7=Control+V,Alt+V ControlGroupAssign8=Control+P,Alt+P ControlGroupAssign9=Control+Space,Alt+Space ControlGroupRecall0=O ControlGroupRecall1=3 ControlGroupRecall2=4 ControlGroupRecall3=5 ControlGroupRecall4=R ControlGroupRecall5=T ControlGroupRecall6=G ControlGroupRecall7=V ControlGroupRecall8=P ControlGroupRecall9=Space GameTooltipsOn=Control+Alt+T IdleWorker=CapsLock MinimapColors=Control+Alt+C MinimapPing=Shift+Alt+G MinimapTerrain=Shift+Alt+T QuickSave=Period StatusAll=Apostrophe TownCamera=B WarpIn=6 CameraSave0=Control+Alt+Q,Control+Shift+Q CameraSave1=Control+Alt+W,Control+Shift+W CameraSave2=Control+Alt+A,Control+Shift+A CameraSave3=Control+Alt+S,Control+Shift+S CameraSave4=Control+Alt+D,Control+Shift+D CameraSave5=Control+Alt+F,Control+Shift+F CameraSave6=Shift+1,Alt+1 CameraSave7=Shift+2,Alt+2 CameraView0=Alt+Q,Shift+Alt+Q CameraView1=Alt+W,Shift+Alt+W CameraView2=Alt+A,Shift+Alt+A CameraView3=Alt+S,Shift+Alt+S CameraView4=Alt+D,Shift+Alt+D CameraView5=Alt+F,Shift+Alt+F CameraView6=1 CameraView7=2 [Commands] 250mmStrikeCannons/Thor=F AnionPulseCrystals/FleetBeacon=E ArchonHallucination/Sentry=D Assimilator/Probe=W Attack=Q AutoTurret/Raven=F Baneling/Zergling=F BanelingNest/Drone=C Barracks/SCV=Q Battlecruiser/Starport=Z Blink/Stalker=F BroodLord/Corruptor=D BuildCreepTumor/Queen=D BuildCreepTumorPropagate/CreepTumorBurrowed=D Bunker/SCV=C BunkerLoad=C BunkerUnloadAll=E BurrowDown=C BurrowUp=Z CalldownMULE/OrbitalCommand=F Carrier/Stargate=E CloakOff=Z Colossus/RoboticsFacility=Q,C CommandCenter/SCV=F CommandCenterLoad=C Contaminate/Overseer=D CorruptionAbility/Corruptor=F CyberneticsCore/Probe=A DarkShrine/Probe=E DisableBuildingAttack/Baneling=7 Drone/Larva=W EngineeringBay/SCV=D EvolutionChamber/Drone=D EvolveCentrificalHooks/BanelingNest=F EvolveChitinousPlating/UltraliskCavern=F EvolveGlialRegeneration/RoachWarren=F EvolveInfestorEnergyUpgrade/InfestationPit=F EvolveTunnelingClaws/RoachWarren=E EvolveVentralSacks=D Explode/Baneling=D Explode/BanelingBurrowed=D Extractor/Drone=W FighterMode=F Forge/Probe=D Gateway/Probe=Q GatherProt=Z GenerateCreep/Overlord=D Ghost/Barracks=W GhostAcademy/SCV=Q GhostHoldFire/Ghost=X GravitonBeam/Phoenix=E GreaterSpire/Spire=E GuardianShield/Sentry=E Hallucination/Sentry=C,D Halt=H Hatchery/Drone=Q Heal/Medivac=F Hellion/Factory=F HighTemplar=W HighTemplarHallucination/Sentry=Q Hive/Lair=Z HunterSeekerMissile/Raven=D Hydralisk/Larva=A HydraliskDen/Drone=W Immortal/RoboticsFacility=F InfestationPit/Drone=Q InfestedTerrans/Infestor=D InfestedTerrans/InfestorBurrowed=D Infestor/Larva=D Interceptor/Carrier=F Lair/Hatchery=Z Land=Y Larva=W Lift=Y Lower/SupplyDepot=W Marauder/Barracks=E Marine/Barracks=F,D MassRecall/Mothership=E MissileTurret/SCV=A MorphBackToGateway/WarpGate=X MorphMorphalisk/Queen=E MorphToOverseer/Overlord=F Mothership/Nexus=E MoveHoldPosition=W MovePatrol=A Mutalisk/Larva=S Nexus/Probe=F NukeArm/GhostAcademy=E NukeCalldown/Ghost=D NydusNetwork/Drone=A Observer/RoboticsFacility=W OrbitalCommand/CommandCenter=E Overlord/Larva=E PhasingMode/WarpPrism=F Phoenix/Stargate=F PointDefenseDrone/Raven=E Probe/Nexus=W ProtossAirArmorLevel1/CyberneticsCore=W ProtossAirWeaponsLevel1/CyberneticsCore=F ProtossBuild/Probe=F ProtossBuildAdvanced/Probe=D ProtossGroundArmorLevel1/Forge=W ProtossGroundWeaponsLevel1/Forge=F ProtossShieldsLevel1/Forge=E PsiStorm/HighTemplar=E Raise/SupplyDepotLowered=F Rally=8 RallyEgg=X Raven/Starport=Q Reaper/Barracks=Q ReaperSpeed/BarracksTechLab=F Refinery/SCV=W Repair=C ResearchBattlecruiserEnergyUpgrade/FusionCore=E ResearchBattlecruiserSpecializations/FusionCore=F ResearchBurrow=C ResearchCharge/TwilightCouncil=E ResearchExtendedThermalLance/RoboticsBay=F ResearchGhostEnergyUpgrade/GhostAcademy=F ResearchGraviticBooster/RoboticsBay=W ResearchGraviticDrive/RoboticsBay=E ResearchHallucination/CyberneticsCore=Q ResearchHiSecAutoTracking/EngineeringBay=D ResearchHighCapacityBarrels/FactoryTechLab=F ResearchInterceptorLaunchSpeedUpgrade/FleetBeacon=F ResearchNeosteelFrame/EngineeringBay=Q ResearchPsiStorm/TemplarArchive=F ResearchPunisherGrenades/BarracksTechLab=Q ResearchRavenEnergyUpgrade/StarportTechLab=Q ResearchSeekerMissile/StarportTechLab=W ResearchStalkerTeleport/TwilightCouncil=F ResearchWarpGate/CyberneticsCore=E ReturnCargo=E Roach/Larva=Q RoachWarren/Drone=F RoboticsBay/Probe=D RoboticsFacility/Probe=W SCV=W Salvage/Bunker=X SapStructure/Baneling=D Scan/OrbitalCommand=E SelectBuilder=7 SensorTower/SCV=S SetBunkerRallyPoint/Bunker=W SiegeMode=D SiegeTank/Factory=E Snipe/Ghost=F SpawnChangeling/Overseer=E SpineCrawler/Drone=E SpineCrawlerRoot/SpineCrawlerUprooted=C SpineCrawlerUproot/SpineCrawler=C SporeCrawlerRoot/SporeCrawlerUprooted=C SporeCrawlerUproot/SporeCrawler=C Stalker=F Stim=F Stimpack/BarracksTechLab=W StopGenerateCreep/Overlord=Z StopPlanetaryFortress/PlanetaryFortress=S SummonNydusWorm/NydusNetwork=F SupplyDepot/SCV=E SupplyDrop/OrbitalCommand=Q TemplarArchive/Probe=A TerranBuild/SCV=F TerranBuildAdvanced/SCV=D TerranInfantryArmorLevel1/EngineeringBay=F TerranShipPlatingLevel1/Armory=E TerranShipWeaponsLevel1/Armory=Q TerranVehiclePlatingLevel1/Armory=W TerranVehicleWeaponsLevel1/Armory=F Thor/Factory=W TimeWarp/Nexus=F Transfusion/Queen=F TransportMode/WarpPrism=D TwilightCouncil/Probe=Q Ultralisk/Larva=X UltraliskCavern/Drone=F Unsiege=F UpgradeBuildingArmorLevel1/EngineeringBay=W UpgradeToPlanetaryFortress/CommandCenter=F UpgradeToWarpGate/Gateway=S VikingFighter/Starport=F VoidRay/Stargate=W VoidRayHallucination/Sentry=A Vortex/Mothership=F WarpPrism/RoboticsFacility=E WarpPrismHallucination/Sentry=W WeaponsFree/Ghost=X YamatoGun=F Zealot=Q ZergBuild/Drone=F ZergBuildAdvanced/Drone=D Zergling/Larva=F hydraliskspeed/HydraliskDen=F overlordspeed=E zergflyerarmor1=W zergflyerattack1=F zerggroundarmor1/EvolutionChamber=W zerglingattackspeed/SpawningPool=E zerglingmovementspeed/SpawningPool=F zergmeleeweapons1/EvolutionChamber=E zergmissileweapons1/EvolutionChamber=F | ||
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Siirath
Netherlands13 Posts
On April 10 2012 12:47 FoxyMayhem wrote: Sirath, what a layout! Very Nice.you're very welcome, and the appreciation means a lot. I have put a massive amount of time into this.sorry for the delay in replying.if you update your image to account for the new changes, I'll put it on the front page. Sorry for the slow reply, I've uploaded an updated version here. If anyone wants to edit the layouts to accommodate for their personal changes, you can download the photoshop PSD file here. | ||
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Kortex22
France28 Posts
I would like to know : which mouse are you using ? I possess a razer imperator and I am struggling with the terran "mouse button enabled" configuration. I use to hold my mouse in a grip mode like I think, most of RTS player. Here is a good article on razer about claw grip mode : http://www.razerzone.com/mouseguide/ergonomic/clawgrip and another on on palm grip mode : http://www.razerzone.com/mouseguide/ergonomic about the terran "mouse buttons enabled" I think that is very difficult to be efficient pressing the CC&tech button then Rax button because both of them have to be pressed with my thumb ... and in a claw grip mode you are already holding the mouse with the top of each of your fingers which mean you can press but you can't move your right hand fingers. I have made a photo of the situation : here is a picture of how i hold the mouse (claw grip) : ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/JjPGW.jpg) another view : ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/G3EDr.jpg) and look what happens when i have to press the CC / rax button : CC button : ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/72bKV.jpg) Rax button : ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/IhOoN.jpg) by moving my thumb, I have to release the mouse itself. you can try it. So my questions : do I have to change my mouse to find proper mouse placements ? So which mouse are you using ? Or claw grip is not compatible with mouse enhanced configuration and I have to switch with a mouseless configuration ? | ||
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Hachrt
United States5 Posts
I really like this setup a lot, particularly having Caps Lock being the Idle Worker button, I find it's really handy to have and easy to use. Whenever I play Terran, and I see Idle workers, I know I have to build something with them (" CapslockFE " is extremely easy to use for constantly building Supply Depots), or it's a SCV Scout. I find, for scouting, if you go back to build something and if your scout idles, at all, it's really good to have the function bound so easily accessible since it takes you right to the idle worker and can then continue scouting with him. I think what I want to do for scouting however, is force myself to use 1 or 2 on the enemy base so I can manage my scout and see what's building. It'll be useful also when I scan their main to check for tech later in the game. " 1PE; click " Camera Hotkeys and Control Groups are the only things I'm still getting used to with this setup. It's probably a lot easier for me to " Alt+W; PF; click " for Mules if I could remember to set the camera hotkeys. It's something I'll have to work on by forcing myself to do it, especially since it's something that's going to be so important to my Zerg play. The control groups make a lot of sense when I slow down to use them, but I'm just not remembering to continuously keep up with adding my units to the groups, which is something I just need to work on doing in general for the sake of getting better at this game. I got my friend to use this layout as well, he plays Protoss and is loving the accessible camera hotkey for his warp in Pylon. I'll get the rest of his thoughts on the layout, I don't know how much he's using the layered base cameras, but I'm fairly sure he forgets to use his ramp one, or else I don't think I should be able to get up into his ramp. I know when he's producing workers, he said, that he wants to press Q. I'm not sure if he used Grid or Standard, but if he used Grid it may be a habit from when he used that layout. I've also tried using Protoss when I first started switching to the Layout and I really wanted to press E to make both Probes and Pylons. I honestly thought that was the most intuitive thing about learning the standard hotkey layout, Workers and Supply Buildings using the same hotkey for Protoss and Terran. I imagine the reasoning behind not doing so for this layout is either related to Drones being W and Overlords having to be a seperate hotkey, making you want to keep the layouts as similar as possible; or it's something to do with reaction time that I'm not aware of. Speaking of Drones, the only thing I found extremely annoying about Grid format is actually mitigated with this setup, I find. With Grid, the hotkey to select larva and the hotkey to produce drones are both Q, with Darkgrid they're both W. When I tried out Grid I found myself spamming Q in order to try to select my larva and I would then proceed to make Drones when I didn't want to. I then forced myself to stop spamming just Q and to spam 4Q which was much better, but compared to Darkgrid, where I can spam PW without moving my fingers into an entirely seperate position to spam for larva, which I find to be fantastic. The only thing I'm finding annoying with the layout is hitting X or Z; C is exceptionally easy to reach. I'd say X isn't hard to hit from the standard position, but since I find myself making Reactors instead of Techlabs entirely too often, what I've been trying to do lately is for Z X or C is claw my hand down so that I have my pinky on Shift, Ring on Z, Middle on X, and my pointer on C. It seems to be a easy position to transition into and out of, but I'm curious what you do for those buttons, particularly Z. Also out of curiosity, why is Hold Position on W and Stop on S? I'm used to Stop being right next to Attack, and I was thinking about changing it, so I'm curious what the reasoning is for it staying S rather than moving to the top row with Attack. | ||
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justnoob.br
Brazil83 Posts
eedit: well, got to change a few things in the control group tab (8 and 0 to mouse4 and mouse5) and it`s working now. =) | ||
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SirPsychoMantis
United States180 Posts
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Fencar
United States2694 Posts
On May 02 2012 13:42 SirPsychoMantis wrote: Looks like Darkgrid has a friendly competitor, will be interesting to look at more of the specific differences. Not a fan. How Darkgrid has your hand on the QWEF keys and how it uses that to it's advantage is not captured by this setup. I feel like you have to move your hand up and down on the keyboard a lot, which delays your actions. | ||
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Match
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Hachrt
United States5 Posts
On May 02 2012 20:32 Match wrote: I don't like the hotkeys on your mouse. Any viable alternatives for those? Darkgrid has a Mouseless option, you can look at the layout and download it in the first post. To look at it, uncollapse the layout spoiler, find your race, then underneath the mouse enhanced layout you can uncollapse two printer friendly layouts, mouse enhanced and mouseless. To download it use the same download link. | ||
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thenanox
Spain73 Posts
why i tried it?im kind of person that started typing very young with keyboard and learned by myself. i dont know to write properly, in fact maybe i use like 2 or 3 fingers per hand. when i move my hand to push keys far away i just missclick a lot, so i saw this configuration and i thought it was perfect for me and its true. if people have this problem like me or similar, should try this configuration  | ||
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FoxyMayhem
624 Posts
On May 02 2012 13:42 SirPsychoMantis wrote: Looks like Darkgrid has a friendly competitor, will be interesting to look at more of the specific differences. Thanks for bringing this to my attention, y'all. JaKaTaK has been promising to give a breakdown on why his is better. I'm really looking forward to it, to get this puppy streamlined even further. Thanks Hatchrt for helping out in the thread. Glad it's continuing to help folks! | ||
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SupplyBlockedTV
Belgium313 Posts
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JaKaTaKSc2
United States2787 Posts
EDIT: I got maaad respect for Darkgrid and FoxyMayhem. I think that we are offering different things in terms of hotkey layout (with mouse, without mouse) but who knows. Maybe a long way down the line our paths will converge to form an Archon Hotkey Layout! Either way, at the time being, i think that neither one will be better than the other, and that we will each help the other to get both setups the best they can be :D | ||
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SirPsychoMantis
United States180 Posts
On May 04 2012 07:04 JaKaTaK wrote: Hey hey! You don't need to bind you mouse buttons to O and P! The hotkey customizer in sc2 recognizes the 4th and 5th mouse buttons!! EDIT: I got maaad respect for Darkgrid and FoxyMayhem. I think that we are offering different things in terms of hotkey layout (with mouse, without mouse) but who knows. Maybe a long way down the line our paths will converge to form an Archon Hotkey Layout! Either way, at the time being, i think that neither one will be better than the other, and that we will each help the other to get both setups the best they can be :D I do this, one thing to point out in your drivers you want to make sure your mouse buttons are set to generic windows buttons. Ex. in my Razer settings they are "Windows Button 4" and "Windows Button 5" | ||
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Kortex22
France28 Posts
Please can somebody tell me at least which fingers do you use for mouse buttons 3 and 4 ? I find the thumb very uncomfortable with the way i hold my mouse. Thanks On April 27 2012 17:22 Kortex22 wrote: Hi Darkgrid users ! I would like to know : which mouse are you using ? I possess a razer imperator and I am struggling with the terran "mouse button enabled" configuration. I use to hold my mouse in a grip mode like I think, most of RTS player. Here is a good article on razer about claw grip mode : http://www.razerzone.com/mouseguide/ergonomic/clawgrip and another on on palm grip mode : http://www.razerzone.com/mouseguide/ergonomic about the terran "mouse buttons enabled" I think that is very difficult to be efficient pressing the CC&tech button then Rax button because both of them have to be pressed with my thumb ... and in a claw grip mode you are already holding the mouse with the top of each of your fingers which mean you can press but you can't move your right hand fingers. I have made a photo of the situation : here is a picture of how i hold the mouse (claw grip) : another view : and look what happens when i have to press the CC / rax button : CC button : Rax button : by moving my thumb, I have to release the mouse itself. you can try it. So my questions : do I have to change my mouse to find proper mouse placements ? So which mouse are you using ? Or claw grip is not compatible with mouse enhanced configuration and I have to switch with a mouseless configuration ? | ||
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asdir
Germany39 Posts
Just wondering if you thought about that already, FoxyMayhem. Otherwise I am pretty happy with darkgrid (after I changed W and Q for units, as mentioned above).Still love the idea and that someone else did the hard work for me.  | ||
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Northern_iight
Canada363 Posts
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Cozzak
Canada54 Posts
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FoxyMayhem
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