EPT@Buddhist What "masters" section? - If you saw a masters section somewhere, I think you have fundamentally misunderstood the article. PM me we can discuss
PS.: Buddhist arguing with Budha :D Gotta love it !!
PPS.: I _KNOW_ Buddha takes 2 "d"s.
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Budha
Canada60 Posts
@Buddhist What "masters" section? - If you saw a masters section somewhere, I think you have fundamentally misunderstood the article. PM me we can discuss PS.: Buddhist arguing with Budha :D Gotta love it !! PPS.: I _KNOW_ Buddha takes 2 "d"s. | ||
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Adam.Ioba
Australia25 Posts
Very nice post nonetheless! | ||
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Trump
United States350 Posts
I echo a sentiment. "TIMINGS" is more like "BUILD." a "BUILD" is done usually for the purpose of "TIMING" an opponent. Example: 3 Barracks Build. You do it to "TIMING" attack the opponent with stim pack and a good chunk. I move to replace "TIMINGS" with "OPPORTUNITY". You sense weakness because your scouting revealed a low army. TIMING HIM! You sense a rush coming because the nexus isn't glowing and he's not building workers. TURTLE! "OPPORTUNITY" - the ability to have the best response based on a very quick glance. could also call it "GAMESENSE" | ||
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Monkeyballs25
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Also in the Control section you have This section will also includes SPELLCASTING during engagements, like storms, fungal and stimpacks, and where to place your spellcasters inside the army. Now to my mind those are all parts of micro gameplay. | ||
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Cibron
Sweden253 Posts
Lvl 7: NEW FEAT: "CONTROL" Micro +5 Macro +7 Misleading since most of the "elements" are improving continuously through your game career. | ||
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MysteryHours
United States168 Posts
On September 30 2011 19:08 Cibron wrote: LEVEL UP!! Lvl 7: NEW FEAT: "CONTROL" Micro +5 Macro +7 Misleading since most of the "elements" are improving continuously through your game career. Did you actually read the entire post, where he specifically says this is not how it's suppose to be interpreted, or did you just glance at the picture? On September 30 2011 09:34 Buddhist wrote: Conversely, a low level player will benefit heavily from good micro. A player with perfect macro who loses all of his colossi to vikings every time, or all of his mutas to thors every time, due to bad micro, will not get to high master level. The point is that all other things being equal, it is more beneficial for a low level player to work on their macro before working on their micro. If your macro is much poorer than your opponent then you're probably going to lose regardless of micro. The pyramid is just supposed to illustrate relative importance, it's not saying that you can get to high masters with terrible micro. On September 30 2011 09:34 Buddhist wrote: Also, something entirely neglected in this, is mechanics/game control, e.g. hotkeys, screen save positions, mouse control, etc. Those things are EXTREMELY fundamental. I found it irritating to read "It is having – and keeping – the correct hotkeys during the action (don’t forget to use them!)." in the master league section. If you are forgetting to use your hotkeys, you should be in bronze, because you lack basic control of the game itself. I wouldn't say it's entirely neglected when there is an entire section called "What about Mechanics?" that addresses this. On September 30 2011 01:30 NB wrote: that picture is so so wrong... my macro is horrible despite facing off vs GM time to time on NA sever. my old roomate got from bronze to #1 gold just by learning how to use hotkeys even though he has never play RTS/blizzard game before. Also the resolution is horrible. If your macro is bad enough you can lose against any level opponent so I'd be interested to see what your definition of horrible macro is if you're competitive in master league. As for your roommate you're probably not giving him enough credit, you need a certain understanding of the game to be competitive, even at gold. Learning the hotkeys alone does not make you a good player, it's just lets you execute your plan more efficiently. I guarantee you there's bronze and silver level players who use hotkeys and are still in bronze and silver so I'm not sure what your point is. | ||
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Budha
Canada60 Posts
@Trump this is actually interesting... If I ever get to updating the image, I think I just might do that! | ||
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lukeman3323
United States3 Posts
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/l3p8q/tips_for_all_levels_of_starcraft_players/ Eye lyke teh upvotez XD Seriously though, feel free to vote it up to share it with a bigger community! | ||
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TheLongKahn
United States11 Posts
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Sympatico
Canada202 Posts
Thank you | ||
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jdizzle588
Canada1 Post
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Chamie
Sweden40 Posts
Also, for you who are talking about timings... A build with specific timings on when to attack et.c doesn't mean you've understood the concept of timings at all. Understanding timings means that you can basically look at the clock at any time at the game and estimate what your opponent should have at that time with the usuall standard strats, or from whatever you expect him to have from your earlier scouting. Having a perfect understanding of timings is probaly something that is top master / GM quality stuff imo. | ||
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Geovu
Estonia1344 Posts
On September 30 2011 19:08 Cibron wrote: LEVEL UP!! Lvl 7: NEW FEAT: "CONTROL" Micro +5 Macro +7 Choose your perk: Day[9] Acolyte: Constant +20% Knowledge, +5 Production, -2 Micro Buy New Equipment: +5 Control, +5 Micro Switch to Protoss: +10 Macro, +10 Control, +5 Timings, -5 Economy, -20 Information | ||
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decaf
Austria1797 Posts
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IMortal
Poland4 Posts
User was warned for this post | ||
EsportsJohn
United States4883 Posts
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jcroisdale
United States1543 Posts
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ThyLastPenguin
United Kingdom101 Posts
On August 26 2012 06:54 SC2John wrote: Edit: Nevermind Although a very silly post, thanks for bumping this. I lost this thread. :D I remember back when I just started this game, I felt really lost and had no Idea what to focus on. This really helped me structure my game so I was consciously (that doesn't look right -.-) reminding myself to build stuff instead of micro. To OP, thanks <3 | ||
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SoniC_eu
Denmark1008 Posts
Thanks for this! | ||
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Fencar
United States2694 Posts
I did it the other way, so I relied on 3CC builds constantly, but then suddenly I had to learn to micro, which with Terran you have to learn or you die to AoE (unless you play Mech), so I was stuck at low masters for a long time. | ||
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