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Make sure you read the OP before asking a question. Asking a question already addressed in the OP will result in moderation action. Also, please put some effort into your questions.
Odds
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada1188 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-11 01:06:35
March 11 2012 01:02 GMT
#3481
On March 11 2012 09:59 Fencer710 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2012 09:14 Odds wrote:
What the fuck are you supposed to do lategame against zerg? All he has to do is build ling/baneling/muta ->> HURRRRRRRRRR RIGHT CLICK and there is fucking nothing you can do except die

I have marine/tank, I'm splitting marines, I'm focusing tanks on the banelings, but it doesn't matter because he can just make 1000000000000000000 more zerglings for 200 minerals.
Perhaps you aren't putting enough pressure on the Z? Maybe you're not macroing well enough? We'd need a replay to be sure.

Probably. I'm not really sure how to put pressure on, though- drops seem to be ineffective as speedlings can respond instantly due to their ridiculous speed on creep, and banshees (and drops =/) are totally negated by mutas.
Odds.633, AM. Plat level currently. Would love more practice partners, add me, let's play!
NoctemSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States771 Posts
March 11 2012 01:16 GMT
#3482
How do you win TvP? I'm a diamond terran and this is looking ridiculously one sided right now.
Early game you have virtually no advantage, Mid game toss starts to get strong, late game forget about it.
HELP.
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Lyyna
Profile Joined June 2011
France776 Posts
March 11 2012 01:19 GMT
#3483
On March 11 2012 09:14 Odds wrote:
What the fuck are you supposed to do lategame against zerg? All he has to do is build ling/baneling/muta ->> HURRRRRRRRRR RIGHT CLICK and there is fucking nothing you can do except die

I have marine/tank, I'm splitting marines, I'm focusing tanks on the banelings, but it doesn't matter because he can just make 1000000000000000000 more zerglings for 200 minerals.

In lategame,you should be able to get a good number of tanks, some thors (so he has to micro his muta) and to secure a good defensive position.Ling Bling Muta isn't that good lategame when the terran has all that stuff as he can't pick tanks with muta,and his ground army will get shredded by your tanks
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phiinix
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1169 Posts
March 11 2012 01:27 GMT
#3484
On March 11 2012 10:16 NoctemSC wrote:
How do you win TvP? I'm a diamond terran and this is looking ridiculously one sided right now.
Early game you have virtually no advantage, Mid game toss starts to get strong, late game forget about it.
HELP.

pm me 5 or so reps. Give me a brief outline if your games, what were the biggest problems, and at what point you felt you were too far behind to win. I'll pm you back before tuesday if you're up for it.
KenDM
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands206 Posts
March 11 2012 01:52 GMT
#3485
Hi guys, could someone please analyse this replay for me? It's a TvP with a combo of quick VR's and Stalkers and I was left wondering how to scout this properly and what the right method of countering this composition was, I couldn't find a balance with enough marines for the VR's and enough Marauders for the stalkers. They had high ground vision as well, it was a very nasty play to fight against.

In short, what to do when I spot this?

http://drop.sc/129386
halpimcat
Profile Joined September 2011
215 Posts
March 11 2012 04:12 GMT
#3486
On March 10 2012 16:17 halpimcat wrote:
I open 2rax in tvp, but am not quite sure what the proper response is if the protoss opens 3gate expand, or even 1gate expo into 3 gate. His army is usually strong enough to beat my two rax and then he already has an expo over me. Do I expand as soon as I know what he's doing, tech up, or both?

Anyone? I'm also not sure when to let up on the pressure, there will be times when I feel pretty good about attacking, he ffs, I die, then he charges my base and I just die. I feel like I don't tech fast enough to Medivacs but constant two rax pressure seems to drain resources a couple minutes longer than I would like
Cosmology
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada360 Posts
March 11 2012 04:14 GMT
#3487
On March 11 2012 04:39 Andreas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2012 04:25 Cosmology wrote:
Did everyone miss my question? Here it is again.

Can anyone give me a step by step for manual marine splitting? I just switched to terran and I can't even get past lvl 10 of the marine split challenge, do you select them and just randomly move command them somewhere or do you have to shift queue an attack move after the move command?

In the marine split challenge map, select small portions and move command them into different directions. In real situations there will be times when you can select all your marines and a-move to make sure that the ones out of reach of the banelings are allowed to attack, and then resume splitting the ones closest to the banelings.

NOt exactly sure what you mean by a move? like i split them then a move them back in?
Somewhere, something amazing is waiting to be known.
Sovern
Profile Joined March 2011
United States312 Posts
March 11 2012 05:05 GMT
#3488
On March 11 2012 10:16 NoctemSC wrote:
How do you win TvP? I'm a diamond terran and this is looking ridiculously one sided right now.
Early game you have virtually no advantage, Mid game toss starts to get strong, late game forget about it.
HELP.

You 1/1/1
mell0w
Profile Joined September 2010
United States102 Posts
March 11 2012 05:08 GMT
#3489
Something ive been struggling against as a plat terran: zerg who two base allin with ling bling. Seems when we engage we take equal damage and then they simply remax on the spot and im unable to macro fast enough, this being nonstop ubit production on 2 base with 4 rax (one tech three reactor), two factory producing tanks and a reactored starport for medivacs.

How can i better fend this off and counter appropriately?
halpimcat
Profile Joined September 2011
215 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-11 07:04:13
March 11 2012 07:01 GMT
#3490
On March 11 2012 14:08 mell0w wrote:
Something ive been struggling against as a plat terran: zerg who two base allin with ling bling. Seems when we engage we take equal damage and then they simply remax on the spot and im unable to macro fast enough, this being nonstop ubit production on 2 base with 4 rax (one tech three reactor), two factory producing tanks and a reactored starport for medivacs.

How can i better fend this off and counter appropriately?

The answer is actually quite simple: don't attack. Check to see if he has a third. If he doesn't, be wary and take a third of your own. Move out just enough to kill creep and don't engage. If he's all inning, like I said he's already behind on Econ. If he's not all inning, your faux push just scared him into making pings instead of drones.

Also very important: wall off. If he kills you with a two base attack, a decent wall with sc s repairing should buy you enough time to get a couple tanks and marines out. As long as you don't straight out die to his counter you should at least be on even terms with the Zerg, even if you lose scvs. Just make a third orbital while all this is going on and focus on muling away and fixing your economy. just having one tank and a handful of marines behind a wall should be able to deter long bling from killing you, which you should always have if you're constantly producing and. It rallying units anywhere outside your base.

Even on maps with open. Naturals like metalopolis can be walled off as you expo. Turn it into a habit
blackberry_
Profile Joined September 2011
114 Posts
March 11 2012 10:47 GMT
#3491
rax CC or reaper FE

in TvT, which one is safer vs banshee/tank/rine all-in? tell me your experiences
Live your life.
Chaggi
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1936 Posts
March 11 2012 11:07 GMT
#3492
On March 11 2012 19:47 blackberry_ wrote:
rax CC or reaper FE

in TvT, which one is safer vs banshee/tank/rine all-in? tell me your experiences


I like reaper personally. I like to show them the reaper and force them to be a bit defensive. Engineering bay at 6 min means banshee should do no damage and with map control with reapers can spot tanks before they are in position. Pull svcs and win.
Willba
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom209 Posts
March 11 2012 11:49 GMT
#3493
On March 11 2012 19:47 blackberry_ wrote:
rax CC or reaper FE

in TvT, which one is safer vs banshee/tank/rine all-in? tell me your experiences


I usually reaper FE in TvT and as long as I pull workers I crush their attack. I have held similar strats with 1 rax FE but it seems to do more damage to me so they can easily stay in the game since its still relatively even.
iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
March 11 2012 17:22 GMT
#3494
On March 11 2012 19:47 blackberry_ wrote:
rax CC or reaper FE

in TvT, which one is safer vs banshee/tank/rine all-in? tell me your experiences

I hold it routinely with 12/14 rax double gas reaper rush into 4 rax marine stim CS build. It expos at 23 food after 3 reapers.

Or, reaper FE with 1-1-1 speed reaper/hellion.
Unbiased biased terran abuser Jeffrey. Sorry for the rage, friend!
Cosmology
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada360 Posts
March 11 2012 19:50 GMT
#3495
anyone have a build order or guide for Reaper FE?
Somewhere, something amazing is waiting to be known.
iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
March 11 2012 19:52 GMT
#3496
On March 12 2012 04:50 Cosmology wrote:
anyone have a build order or guide for Reaper FE?

What match up?
Unbiased biased terran abuser Jeffrey. Sorry for the rage, friend!
Cosmology
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada360 Posts
March 11 2012 20:03 GMT
#3497
On March 12 2012 04:52 iAmJeffReY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2012 04:50 Cosmology wrote:
anyone have a build order or guide for Reaper FE?

What match up?

TvT sorry
Somewhere, something amazing is waiting to be known.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
March 11 2012 20:36 GMT
#3498
On March 12 2012 05:03 Cosmology wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2012 04:52 iAmJeffReY wrote:
On March 12 2012 04:50 Cosmology wrote:
anyone have a build order or guide for Reaper FE?

What match up?

TvT sorry


10 depot
12 rax
13 gas
After rax is finished, make a tech lab and then a reaper.
Some people just make one for scouting, some make up to three.
Some people take dudes off gas after mining 175 gas (enough for a tech lab, a reaper, and starting combat shields).
Reapers build slowly and don't cost many minerals.
You will quickly bank up for a CC. Start your CC at 400 minerals.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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KenDM
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands206 Posts
March 11 2012 20:37 GMT
#3499
Could someone please take a look at my replay? I'm really curious about the build I encountered, VR's with Stalkers, has anyone seen it? What would your advise be against it? The reay is inuded in my previpus post a few posts back.
Cosmology
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada360 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-11 20:41:45
March 11 2012 20:39 GMT
#3500
On March 12 2012 05:36 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2012 05:03 Cosmology wrote:
On March 12 2012 04:52 iAmJeffReY wrote:
On March 12 2012 04:50 Cosmology wrote:
anyone have a build order or guide for Reaper FE?

What match up?

TvT sorry


10 depot
12 rax
13 gas
After rax is finished, make a tech lab and then a reaper.
Some people just make one for scouting, some make up to three.
Some people take dudes off gas after mining 175 gas (enough for a tech lab, a reaper, and starting combat shields).
Reapers build slowly and don't cost many minerals.
You will quickly bank up for a CC. Start your CC at 400 minerals.

what are the common transitions and what is the timing for gas #2? I guess that depends on your transition, and what are the advantages of more reapers?

EDIT: What would be the proper way to transition into biomech, Marines, tank, medivac and possibly vikigns?
Somewhere, something amazing is waiting to be known.
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