EPTThe Protoss Help Me Thread - Page 424
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Olli
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probeater
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city42
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On February 14 2013 08:30 probeater wrote: in my game though he attacked with 2-3 marauders (with conc) and 2-3 marines, while i still had only 2 stalkers and 2 sentries (zealot died before)....so i couldnt attack into that so he killed my expo You made a mistake with the build if that's the case. MC's 1 gate FE shouldn't lose the expo to a 2 rax unless the guy pulls 12 scvs or something. | ||
Teoita
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Also you shouldn't have 2 stalkers and 2 sentries only. Assuming you warped in the 2 sentries, you should have one more gateway ready for an extra zealot. That force can easily clean up that bio army. The replay vs mvp in monk's thread is very, very good to study early game defense. | ||
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Salivanth
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Teoita
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edit: fuck just went to 3. Still pretty good though. | ||
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DinoMight
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ZeromuS
Canada13410 Posts
On February 14 2013 10:02 DinoMight wrote: How do you deal with mass Corruptor Roach in the pre-BL time period? You need AOE to kill the roaches... Colo die so fast to the Corruptors and then the roaches tear up your stalker/immortal. If you go Templar, roaches just laugh and kill all your stuff anyway. I'm a bit frustrated about this. Top 8 Diamond Toss and just can't seem to beat this composition no matter what. You should post a replay. If you have stalkers and immortals, with good forcefields, and blink you should not lose to roaches unless you are super behind in upgrades or get majorly flanked. . | ||
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city42
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On February 14 2013 10:02 DinoMight wrote: How do you deal with mass Corruptor Roach in the pre-BL time period? You need AOE to kill the roaches... Colo die so fast to the Corruptors and then the roaches tear up your stalker/immortal. If you go Templar, roaches just laugh and kill all your stuff anyway. I'm a bit frustrated about this. Top 8 Diamond Toss and just can't seem to beat this composition no matter what. Why do you need AOE to kill roaches? Just about anything kills roaches as long as you forcefield decently. If he maxes on pure roach corruptor, you should thank him profusely and then run him over. | ||
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MysteryMeat1
United States3292 Posts
On February 14 2013 10:06 city42 wrote: Why do you need AOE to kill roaches? Just about anything kills roaches as long as you forcefield decently. If he maxes on pure roach corruptor, you should thank him profusely and then run him over. if he goes roach corruptor you really only need aoe if you went the zealot heavy style in a wide open area. Like it was said above, you should post a replay. | ||
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Teoita
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Olli
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probeater
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On February 14 2013 08:33 Teoita wrote: With Mc's 1gate FE your standing army should always be stronger than what a terran has at any point in time basically, that's the whole point of the build.. Also you shouldn't have 2 stalkers and 2 sentries only. Assuming you warped in the 2 sentries, you should have one more gateway ready for an extra zealot. That force can easily clean up that bio army. The replay vs mvp in monk's thread is very, very good to study early game defense. should i be chrono-ing WG research after the 2 stalkers? | ||
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Teoita
Italy12247 Posts
On February 15 2013 06:24 probeater wrote: should i be chrono-ing WG research after the 2 stalkers? No that build chronos units exclusively vs gas openings. You would know if you had read monk's thread and watched the replays included. | ||
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cheerful
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I've heard that quite often now but somehow it never really works for me. Because somehow I always get completely obliterated by mass marines/stim.. even if I have +1/+2 etc.. I'm bronze btw. | ||
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Teoita
Italy12247 Posts
On the other hand, this doesn't mean you shouldn't practice builds at all. Following some basic guideline is important (for example, in PvT you should fast expand and then get some AoE up vs his bio). | ||
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probeater
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On February 15 2013 06:34 Teoita wrote: No that build chronos units exclusively vs gas openings. You would know if you had read monk's thread and watched the replays included. so i would already have a sentry before transforming my gates? | ||
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On February 15 2013 06:46 cheerful wrote: Is it true that I can basically go all the way to plat only by having more units than my opponent? I've heard that quite often now but somehow it never really works for me. Because somehow I always get completely obliterated by mass marines/stim.. even if I have +1/+2 etc.. I'm bronze btw. Yes. I mean, you're not gonna win a game with mass zealots vs banshees, lol. But I could veeeeery likely beat any bronze terran with only zealots if he goes for standard MMM. And I don't consider myself to be very good  | ||
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Gumbi
Ireland463 Posts
On February 15 2013 07:07 DarkLordOlli wrote: Yes. I mean, you're not gonna win a game with mass zealots vs banshees, lol. But I could veeeeery likely beat any bronze terran with only zealots if he goes for standard MMM. And I don't consider myself to be very good Korean 4 Gate? Proxy Gate? Prism drops into min line? Any of this executed by a Master's player would beat anything up to Gold consistently. | ||
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Teoita
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