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Foxy.
Profile Joined August 2011
France126 Posts
August 17 2011 14:57 GMT
#181
This thread is great. But I do think there are some good kinds of anger. Maybe it only applies to some of us, but I find usually I'm not aggressive enough in my gameplay, and getting angry (in the Rocky kind of way) makes me better.
https://twitter.com/foxytalks
TangSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada1866 Posts
August 18 2011 22:27 GMT
#182
Well I'm hyper-aggressive in my gameplay so I never have that problem, but if I'm angry or not focused my execution starts to go.
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Foxy.
Profile Joined August 2011
France126 Posts
August 19 2011 12:33 GMT
#183
The not being focused part is so true... Focus does win the game most of the time, I wish I could be better at it. Be sure I'll put your advices into good use.
https://twitter.com/foxytalks
TangSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada1866 Posts
August 22 2011 03:39 GMT
#184
I think the most important aspect of staying focused is not to pay too much attention to the future or the past. Focus on what the right move is at the time, don't think too hard about losing that first scouting overlord to 1 marine cuz you forgot it flying over the terran CC and don't think too much about the fact that you could have walled in your ramp with queens but instead you have hellions running around. Rather, focus on what should be done about it now. (Making another overlord, doing your best to kill hellions with queen/lings, moving drones away)
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ratanak
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada10 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-22 04:21:23
August 22 2011 04:09 GMT
#185
Being focused shouldn't at all be related to how determined you are. I know that sounds completely silly, but let us look at an example.

To be determined is to have a goal and its ambition. In this case, we can think of ambition as a resource we use. Focus should always include the plan that facilitates the goal involved. Thus, focus uses determination as an important psychological resource. This may include openings, scouting & analysis, positioning, micro, and macro.

Judgement can always change due to mood, time of day, environmental factors, etc. Tang's tips really help himself and he is looking to help the community by sharing what he thought has worked and is acceptable in the community. He has made it to attune to the community as a Grand Master player.

Edit:

As a paddler in an athletics team, I second the thought of thinking of every one game at a time. This is analogous to thinking of every to-be-perfect stroke in the water and not thinking of how tired you are. Players generally learn every time they play. However, letting previous games deter your decision making will cost. For example:

If a player uses DTs and you've had a bad, emotional run through them, it is wise not to blindly get detection. Instead, let scouting, analysis, and familiarity run your decision making. The mentality upon questioning yourself when scouting should not be due to previous game, but rather to the game itself. "Do they have DTs?" is a legitimate question, but don't be too suspicious unreasonably due to recent past. It's easier said than done.

However, the lesson should be learnt here. Maybe the player needed to scout more. Maybe his macro slipped. Maybe he scouted but his reaction wasn't spectacular. .. or maybe he wasn't familiar with the build involved and now s/he knows and will be familiar with the build.

When being focused, every single game should be thought of as the best game you'll have to prove yourself as a player.
ratanak&Tang - Find us on YouTube!
ishyishy
Profile Joined February 2011
United States826 Posts
August 22 2011 22:27 GMT
#186
hey isnt this the guy that spams the hell out of every chat channel (including my clan channel) with this bs coaching ads? can you please stop doing that? No one is going to pay for your coaching.
Plutonik
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada329 Posts
August 22 2011 22:33 GMT
#187
i find that i am never in a positive mindset right after i just got 1/1/1'd
ratanak
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada10 Posts
August 23 2011 01:43 GMT
#188
On August 23 2011 07:33 Plutonik wrote:
i find that i am never in a positive mindset right after i just got 1/1/1'd


A positive mindset shouldn't necessarily mean a optimistic mindset; just a clear one. It's hard to differentiate. Think of every game as a game on its own and not part of a run/series of games. The last player isn't the current player. It isn't easy, otherwise Tang wouldn't have posted what he had
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VPVanek
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada238 Posts
August 23 2011 02:35 GMT
#189
Good thread Tang

I would also add to take breaks when you are on tilt.
FoXer
TangSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada1866 Posts
August 23 2011 21:09 GMT
#190
You're right ratanak it's definitely not easy LOL even I still rage at people occasionally...like if they 2rax me
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Sc2Rabbit
Profile Joined August 2011
United States25 Posts
September 09 2011 14:11 GMT
#191
I see this to be quite important. I mean think about it, if you lose frequently in a specific matchup, your going to mentaly go into your next game of the same matchup already feeling defeated, and under focused, as you believe you still just lose again, so why try so hard, right? Makes perfect sense to me. I like it. Good work, and thanks for the information.
Live for the swarm!
daggertech
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden24 Posts
October 12 2011 00:00 GMT
#192
This has helped me alot actually, especially when im tilting, just take a 5 min break, refocus and releave the negative energy and just go at it, and its amazing what it can do.. The human brain man, wicked sh*t. ^^
GHOSTGrim
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 04:15:26
October 12 2011 04:15 GMT
#193
What are you trying to sell Tang?
TangSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada1866 Posts
October 12 2011 10:56 GMT
#194
On October 12 2011 13:15 GHOSTGrim wrote:
What are you trying to sell Tang?

My soul.

I'm an SC2 coach, I make no attempt to hide it but I do want to help the SC2 community who is not interested in paying for coaching by making threads/tutorials/videos.
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Freeborn
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany421 Posts
October 12 2011 12:10 GMT
#195
great post, thx for the tips. I think its a good philosophy
RockRehab
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia19 Posts
October 12 2011 12:15 GMT
#196
Just have fun with it.
It's not a job it's a sickness, cus we be ill with this.
CatNzHat
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1599 Posts
October 12 2011 12:48 GMT
#197
I wonder why the top players are always so hard on themselves for losses, maybe it's because if you're not hard on yourself you won't put as much into improving.

That's my mentality at least.

No reason to say gg wp if your opponent was awful and you just missclicked during an engagement or weren't watching your minimap. Those losses have nothing to do with your opponent and are 100% your fault, accept that and then go on to next game, don't say GG or WP if you don't mean it.
SupplyBlockedTV
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Belgium313 Posts
October 12 2011 13:13 GMT
#198
Over-confidence will have you lose.

and so will doom thinking.

I do competitive fencing, and its nice if i can say, "I will win the next tournament!", start practising every day etc.

But eventually that thing, i once began doing for fun, will become something stressful, and when the fun is gone, so will the dedication. Its combining Fun and Competition that will make you become better.

I think day9 has talked about these things.

I know for myself i sometimes need a break from starcraft for often weeks, because winning is becoming a obsession and the game starts taking over my life (I don't even play good with such mindset!), and unless you live in south-Korea that is probably a bad thing... :p
PEW PEW PEW
TangSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada1866 Posts
October 12 2011 16:14 GMT
#199
On October 12 2011 21:48 CatNzHat wrote:
No reason to say gg wp if your opponent was awful and you just missclicked during an engagement or weren't watching your minimap. Those losses have nothing to do with your opponent and are 100% your fault, accept that and then go on to next game, don't say GG or WP if you don't mean it.

I would disagree and say that you should GG after every game, whether it was your mistake or your opponents superior skill. I believe it's disrespectful to leave without a gg, in any circumstance.
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Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 16:40:58
October 12 2011 16:40 GMT
#200
On October 12 2011 21:48 CatNzHat wrote:
I wonder why the top players are always so hard on themselves for losses, maybe it's because if you're not hard on yourself you won't put as much into improving.

That's my mentality at least.


What happens during the game should have nothing to do with your long term ambitions and expectations, and none of that should be in your head. The top players barely ever change their facial expression while playing, very rarely you see clear signs of frustration.

They're frustrated and/or sad after the game is over. And even then, it's really only the MINORITY of progamers that will show any kind of emotional response - you only think it's many of them because only those who do it get attention. But if you're watching the GSL, probably 9 out of 10 times the losing player will just pack up his keyboard and go.

Being hard on yourself has also nothing to do with anger and emotional outbursts.

On October 12 2011 21:48 CatNzHat wrote:
No reason to say gg wp if your opponent was awful and you just missclicked during an engagement or weren't watching your minimap. Those losses have nothing to do with your opponent and are 100% your fault, accept that and then go on to next game, don't say GG or WP if you don't mean it.


None of that really matters, "good manners" are a way to maintain mental discipline and focus. You shouldn't spend any time considering whether your opponent "deserves" a gg anyway, just type it and go.
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