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zergrushkekeke
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia241 Posts
January 28 2011 02:47 GMT
#1
Hi all.

I have been stuck in gold 1v1 SEA since release it feels like. I am in Platinum in random 2s and 3s, but I can't seem to win consistently enough to get out of gold.

My main is zerg, I feel my best matchup is ZZ, worst being PZ (after reading the art of ZvT I feel OK with beating terran). I used to play random and can execute basic strats on any race (Last game I remember winning I 4gated a protoss who was doing the same thing).

Any tips on getting to platinum? (switch races, stop switching races or playing 2v2s...)

I can post replays in about 6 hours, once i find some of my more average recent games.

Ranks here:
http://sc2ranks.com/team/4271901
KEKEKE
Hacktus
Profile Joined May 2010
United States25 Posts
January 28 2011 03:16 GMT
#2
just keep winning ladder games. If the system finally calculates that you are ready, it will move you.
CooDu
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia899 Posts
January 28 2011 03:27 GMT
#3
Yep, just gotta keep grinding out those games. A leagues a league don't be too stressed, just play and have fun! Best of Luck
Just a simple guy, going wherever this journey takes me.
Irre
Profile Joined August 2010
United States646 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-28 05:21:37
January 28 2011 03:33 GMT
#4
WakaJawaka
Profile Joined September 2010
United States14 Posts
January 28 2011 03:42 GMT
#5
I'm in the same situation, but I don't view it at all as you guys view it. Just keep grinding the games and have fun. The key words is "game". Just because you see the pros doing awesome doesn't mean that you are bad. Have fun at the game you spent sixty dollars for and keep playing. @ Irre, giving up? What do you mean? Have fun and quit bitching. It's a league.
"The universe exists whether you understand it or not.." -Zappa
Crankenstein
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia150 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-28 03:47:23
January 28 2011 03:45 GMT
#6
I've been in silver for about a week now with the system matching me primarily against gold with a sprinkling of platinum players. I guess it's just deciding whether to promote me to gold or platinum. I'm not too worried.

I was told that the system accounts for random losses amongst a general trend. If that is true, loosing the occasional game to cheese or something unexpected might delay your promotion slightly but it shouldn't prevent it altogether.

Edit: I'm on SEA too.
Edit #2. I'm also platinum for 3's and 4's and gold for 2's. Same sort of deal with my two's team. We are top of gold but are regularly paired against top5 diamond (we won 27 games in a row the other day and lost 3) It's probably just deciding whether to promote to platinum or diamond, again, not worried.
zergrushkekeke
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia241 Posts
January 28 2011 03:48 GMT
#7
Thanks for the advice so far, but it sounds like "just keep grinding".

Anything more specific? Should I stick to to some standard builds for the matchups, something like:
ZZ Roach into overseer
ZT sling bane into muta once they stop bio balling
ZP...

Should I play differently when versing players I am favored against?
KEKEKE
Smigi
Profile Joined April 2010
United States328 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-28 03:52:12
January 28 2011 03:48 GMT
#8
Two things.

First off, do not just go play games just to 'play the game'. If you really want to improve, your going to have to look at every game you lost and learn from it.

Secondly, usually every single players problem below the master league level and sometimes even in master league is Mechanics!

What are mechanics you ask? Liquipedia sums it much better than I could:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Mechanics_(StarCraft)

I would put more emphasis on your macro, because if your mechanics and more specifically your macro improves, chances are your ladder ranking will improve.

Since you are Zerg, you must learn larvae management. This is unique to Zerg and usually is the hardest learning curve for most new players. You must learn when to make units and when to make drones.

I highly suggest this Day9 Daily to help you get a grasp on it:
http://day9tv.blip.tv/file/4210235/

If you learn larvae management and drone timings, and improve your mechanics but specifically macro, you will be on your way to becoming a much better zerg player.

PS: 2v2/3v3/4v4 is significantly less competitive then the 1v1 ladder, which is probably the reason you are having more success there.
Drone then Own
Zariel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1285 Posts
January 28 2011 03:49 GMT
#9
Been stuck on platinum rank 1 in 2v2 with my friend for the past 4 months and up over 400 points over #2. We're both diamond in random 2v2's.
sup
zergrushkekeke
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia241 Posts
January 28 2011 04:20 GMT
#10
Thanks heaps Smigi! Will watch the day9 at home.
KEKEKE
xVigilante
Profile Joined November 2010
46 Posts
January 28 2011 04:28 GMT
#11
You will get promoted in time. I was in gold and was beating high plat inconsistently. One day I got a 3 lose streak then went on to win 5 games in a row and I got promoted to Platinum.

League doesn't really matter. Just something to show off about
Smigi
Profile Joined April 2010
United States328 Posts
January 28 2011 07:33 GMT
#12
On January 28 2011 13:20 zergrushkekeke wrote:
Thanks heaps Smigi! Will watch the day9 at home.


No problem sir.

You just reminded me of my days in SC1 when I was a D Zerg and was stuck.
I wish someone came along and gave me help back then =(
Drone then Own
Gov
Profile Joined November 2010
United States121 Posts
January 28 2011 07:39 GMT
#13
keep in mind that 2v2 and 3v3 are not similar to 1v1 at all in this game....
1
eth3n
Profile Joined August 2010
718 Posts
January 28 2011 08:18 GMT
#14
Its not grinding as you should be adjusting your play with every loss and hopefully refining your play with every win
Idra Potter: I don't use avada kedavra because i have self-respect.
futility
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Japan134 Posts
January 28 2011 08:27 GMT
#15
Yeah like the above people I think your best bet is to just ignore league. On my old account I placed gold, got promoted to platinum in 10 games or so, then sat in platinum playing only diamond players for about 100 games with a positive win ratio and never was promoted. The matchmaking system works so whatever league it says you're in is really irrelevant. You'll be playing against people of roughly your skill level regardless and if you check their stats you'll see they probably range all across the leagues too. Quite frankly the league system is absolutely absurd. The best person I've come across was stuck in silver for close to a hundred games with over 80% win ratio. It happens.
Talkerst
Profile Joined October 2010
124 Posts
January 28 2011 14:19 GMT
#16
Smigi is correct. I'm in the same boat as you (been top of gold for over a month+ now) but I just can't keep consistent enough to get my moving average above the platinum cutoff. So I've stopped laddering for a few days and am focusing on my mechanics. Hopefully with a little work on that I (and you) will be able to make it to the next level.

Good Luck!
TimeSpiral
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1010 Posts
January 28 2011 14:30 GMT
#17
I was rank 1 Gold for Eternity.

I plan on being rank 1 Plat for the next eternity, lol ...

To be frank, without seeing any replays it's hard to give any advice. Even in Gold I was playing at the mid Plat level and now in Plat I'm playing at the low Diamond level. Your desire to get better needs to outweigh your desire for a shiny icon. It really truly doesn't matter what league you're in as long as you're having good games.

Chances are there are some fundamentals breaking down. I've found that much of the advancement from Gold to Plat is fundamentals and having a lucid understanding of what to do in certain scenarios.

TL is a great place. Post some replays and you'll get some stellar feedback.
[G] Positioning, Formations, and Tactics: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=187892
Dellward
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia138 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-28 15:42:39
January 28 2011 15:41 GMT
#18
To confirm; the system promotes you not fully based upon points but on your record with players who are rated higher than you. So if you win nothing else, make SURE to try and win the games against opponents who are slightly or more favoured.
da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
January 28 2011 15:53 GMT
#19
been stuck on rank 1 diamond for a week and a half now T_T goddamnit
When they see MC Probe, all the ladies disrobe.
Stropheum
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1124 Posts
January 28 2011 15:56 GMT
#20
I'd say if you're in gold, macro better. That's the main fault of lower leagues.
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