What's the optimal way to rally workers to your mineral line? Early game I rally to empty mineral patches or patches with only a single worker, but after a while which patch should you set your rally to (i.e. middle patch, edge, etc.)? Also, when you get an expansion, where do you rally your workers to? Should I rally only to my natural expo or is it better to rally to both main and natural?

Also, how many workers should you transfer to expansions and when? Should you transfer workers as soon as your expo goes up or is it better to wait until you've saturated your main? Should you transfer half your workers?

TL;DR: What's the optimal way to rally workers to mineral patches and transfer?

ALPINA

3791 Posts

April 11 2011 07:19 GMT

#1702

@ St0chastic:

Perfectly you want to have 2 workers on each close mineral patch even if some of the patches are w/o harvesters. But for that you need to feel timing very well and start with second worker mining closer patch when your first worker is about to return to base. It's hard to do so you may just rally workers into empty patches and when every patch has a worker you may rally them to close patches. As soon as 2 workers are mining on 1 patch then make rally point to patch with 1 worker.

I would say transfer half of you workers to expansion if you planing to produce same amount of workers on both bases. That way just rally from each base to minerals of that base. Later in the game if you see that one of your bases have full saturation and other one do not then rally all bases to those minerals.

brachester

Australia1786 Posts

April 11 2011 07:46 GMT

#1703

where can i find day9's stream, i know where to find the vids but the stream? Thanks in advance :D

henreiman

United States407 Posts

April 11 2011 08:13 GMT

#1704

On April 11 2011 16:46 brachester wrote:
where can i find day9's stream, i know where to find the vids but the stream? Thanks in advance :D

This is an excellent TL thread covering most everything Day[9].

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=104154

Stream is simply www.day9.tv

TheGreenMachine

United States730 Posts

April 11 2011 08:32 GMT

#1705

whats a good transition after using a forge and 1 cannon to stop a korean 4 gate? A friend K4G'ed me earlier and he came eventually with a delayed regular 1 gas 4 gate and killed me before i could tech to collosus.

Is collosus the best choice? Should I have cannon'ed more? He didn't lose any zealots

only lost some probes from his 10 gate vs my 12 gate opening.

jelle

Denmark88 Posts

April 11 2011 09:52 GMT

#1706

Hi guys, I kinda need help with my "train of thought"

So Yesterday i played a TvT - I went for a banshee opener, transitioning into marine tank viking.

My opponent attacks me with a few cloaked banshees, which i repel okay. Later, he hits me with a few more cloaked banshees and vikings. I deal with this semi okay, only loosing 5 harvesters, but trading my vikings for he's, and dealing with the leftovers with stimmed marines. I start building a few thors, to better accumulate for him doing this again.

The game goes on, and i do a bit of banshee harass.. Later on in the game, i Move a small portion of my army, 4 siege tanks, 2 groups of marines and 2 medivacs close to he's base, to snipe he's production facilities. It works out okay, but then all of a sudden he attacks me with Banshees, Vikings and Battlecruisers.

After killing my small attack, he pretty much just A moves he's fleed and kills me.

Now my question is, how should i have responded to this? What is the best counter, going against Battlecruisers? I feel like having 3-4 thors and about 20 vikings as my defense against he's banshee / Viking army was at minimal decent, but when he throws in battlecruisers in the mix, what am i supposed to do? Start doing battlecruisers myself? Doesn't seem like the ideal solution, Feels like i would having a never ending catch up to he's air superiority.

So what do you guys do when you see BC's in a TvT? Does this differ, if you are behind? And how does it differ if you are ahead?

Thanks

JagRoss

United Kingdom14 Posts

April 11 2011 12:00 GMT

#1707

If I go Roach/Hydra what ratio should I have against a protoss deathball?

VoirDire

Sweden1923 Posts

April 11 2011 12:11 GMT

#1708

On April 11 2011 21:00 JagRoss wrote:
If I go Roach/Hydra what ratio should I have?

Depends a bit on MU and opponents composition, but generally you want just enough roaches to cover your front-line and the rest hydras. So 10-20 roaches, rest hydras.

VoirDire

Sweden1923 Posts

April 11 2011 12:18 GMT

#1709

I'd say the same applies vs a deathball, maybe less hyds and more roaches if he has no voids but lots of colossus. Roaches are effecive cost-wise, but horrible supply-wise. They don't do to well in a 200 vs 200-fight except soak up damage.

kor0na

Sweden28 Posts

April 11 2011 13:01 GMT

#1710

Where can I find a full list of the [D] [Q] etc tags that are used in the TL forum?

Jimmeh

United Kingdom908 Posts

April 11 2011 13:34 GMT

#1711

Why doesn't every Protoss player go nexus first vs Terran? I haven't seen a single Terran stop it yet as long as the Protoss is competent, even if the Terran goes proxy rax they still can't seem to beat it. What am I missing?

Geo.Rion

7377 Posts

April 11 2011 13:42 GMT

#1712

On April 11 2011 22:01 kor0na wrote:
Where can I find a full list of the [D] [Q] etc tags that are used in the TL forum?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=113479

jtRok

United States25 Posts

April 11 2011 14:04 GMT

#1713

When playing against Terran, I've noticed that they sometimes get these huge circles around their base on the minimap. Ingame, it shows a marking as if it was the range of a siege tank or some other static defense. I haven't been able to figure it out though.

What causes this circle? What does it mean for me? What vision does it grant the Terran player?

Thanks in advance. I'm thinking it's a planetary fortress or something but not sure...

Carras

Argentina860 Posts

April 11 2011 14:11 GMT

#1714

On April 11 2011 23:04 jtRok wrote:
When playing against Terran, I've noticed that they sometimes get these huge circles around their base on the minimap. Ingame, it shows a marking as if it was the range of a siege tank or some other static defense. I haven't been able to figure it out though.

What causes this circle? What does it mean for me? What vision does it grant the Terran player?

Thanks in advance. I'm thinking it's a planetary fortress or something but not sure...

sensor tower, shows a dot in the other player minimap if u send units there..

jaelerin

United States36 Posts

April 11 2011 14:14 GMT

#1715

On April 10 2011 16:00 Danger_Duck wrote:
can baneling manual explode hurt things they can't see? (burrowed/invisible units)

Yes. It's not just manual explode either (If they explode on a close zealot etc.). Splash in general with hit invisible enemy units (siege tanks, hellions, collosus), but there must be a visible unit nearby for then to shoot. Banelings have the advantage of forcing a manual explode even if no visible enemy is around.

Eeryck

United States184 Posts

April 11 2011 15:29 GMT

#1716

What is most efficient way to break units out from your main army for a drop and assign them to a new hotkey?

Allred

United States352 Posts

April 11 2011 16:18 GMT

#1717

so i was reading a thread on infestors today and someone mentioned the fungal growth has a range of 9, feed back has a range of 9 so they should be equall. then it occured to me, funal is an area of effect ( i think 2 but i could be wrong) so that basically makes it a range of 10/11 i think, so with perfect infestor micro you could potentially fungal growth templar indefinetly (until they run out of energy) while staying out of range of the templar, is this correct?

War Horse

United States247 Posts

April 11 2011 17:34 GMT

#1718

I just read the guide on how to improve at 1v1, and the "pick one build order for each matchup" struck home for me

As a silver level newbie Terran, what TvT, TvZ, and TvP builds would be my best starting point in order to branch out and become a better overall player. I want safe, macro oriented builds, but the liquipedia seems kind of out of date and its intimidating to try and find builds on the strategy forum. Any recommendations/links?

Elothis

111 Posts

April 11 2011 18:03 GMT

#1719

TvT: maybe some 2 rax 1 fac marine+tank build and expand when its safe (its often times not the best idea to get a fast expo in mirror matchups [ yeah i know that you can get through with a 15 hatch in zvz, dont flame me ;D]).
TvZ: 2 rax expand
TvP: 2/3 rax expand or maybe even 3 rax 1 base push (you will get into diamond with this against toss, but it isnt really a macro opener^^).
against zerg you really have many options though, but I dont think that some kind of 1 rax fe will be really good in silver league, cause most just go 1 base all in there.

War Horse

United States247 Posts

April 11 2011 18:25 GMT

#1720

Do you have links to those corresponding BOs? Thanks