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capcomist
Profile Joined November 2014
14 Posts
March 24 2015 13:18 GMT
#17001
How do pro Zerg players seem to have a good sense for when a cannon rush is 'faked' (no forge) without having scouted yet?
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
March 24 2015 14:52 GMT
#17002
On March 24 2015 22:18 capcomist wrote:
How do pro Zerg players seem to have a good sense for when a cannon rush is 'faked' (no forge) without having scouted yet?

Only one probe going in, the bahavior of the probe, metagaming.
It's an educated guess.
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
ChanKiM_
Profile Joined April 2014
Korea (South)6 Posts
March 26 2015 13:23 GMT
#17003
On March 24 2015 22:18 capcomist wrote:
How do pro Zerg players seem to have a good sense for when a cannon rush is 'faked' (no forge) without having scouted yet?


Probe scout timing, it goes into your main to scout, and you only see one probe. Otherwise they will send a drone or three down to block just in case.
:^)
Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2220 Posts
March 28 2015 09:29 GMT
#17004
Hey, what are my 6 hellions in TvZ supposed to achieve? I go reaper, expand, 6 hellion, additional rax, 3rd cc. I was playing expedition lost the other day and I ran my hellions and reaper up the zerg's ramp (blind) and into a bunch of lings/queens, lost them all and he bust me for the win.

Perhaps this isn't the best map for hellions, but usually I try and poke into the natural and it isn't a complete disaster, so should my hellions be aggressive or should I just hover around creep and try and deny it/delay a third from being taken?

Thanks.

(I watched a load of recent VODs on EL map but I didn't see anyone open similarly to me without going hellbat/banshee, which isn't very relevant to what I'm doing)
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Bojas
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2397 Posts
March 28 2015 09:44 GMT
#17005
On March 28 2015 18:29 Edpayasugo wrote:
Hey, what are my 6 hellions in TvZ supposed to achieve? I go reaper, expand, 6 hellion, additional rax, 3rd cc. I was playing expedition lost the other day and I ran my hellions and reaper up the zerg's ramp (blind) and into a bunch of lings/queens, lost them all and he bust me for the win.

Perhaps this isn't the best map for hellions, but usually I try and poke into the natural and it isn't a complete disaster, so should my hellions be aggressive or should I just hover around creep and try and deny it/delay a third from being taken?

Thanks.

(I watched a load of recent VODs on EL map but I didn't see anyone open similarly to me without going hellbat/banshee, which isn't very relevant to what I'm doing)


They are on the edge of the creep to:
- To deny creep when possible, just because of their presence the Zerg can't hit the exact edge, needs some buffer space so the queens can cover the tumor and you can dart in every once in a while to kill morphing tumors.
- If you kept your reapers alive, you can attack queens letting the reaper take damage, then pull back and let your reapers heal up, this will force units out of the zerg. If the zerg doesn't make roaches you can be very cost effective with this if you micro well.
- Threaten or do a runby into the natural, it's risky, as like you said, the zerg can sometimes straight up win the game if you lose them, but sometimes zergs are completely defenseless (especially if they go for a quick lair build)
- Enable you to move your third cc to your third base earlier. Innovation moves his third cc out at around 8:00 sometimes, because he knows the hellions will keep him safe vs lings.
00Zarathustra
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bolivia419 Posts
March 28 2015 22:05 GMT
#17006
Really guys how can I watch my live APM?
Zarathustra "You can't spell aNal_Rape without Nal_Ra"
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8159 Posts
March 28 2015 22:14 GMT
#17007
On March 29 2015 07:05 00Zarathustra wrote:
Really guys how can I watch my live APM?


Google APM overlay
second link, sc2gears thread
there is a newer software called scelight, which has the same features
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Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
March 28 2015 23:03 GMT
#17008
Hi

I am looking for a twitch stream with GM/Master protoss, who streams a lot, and has past broadcasts on for free. I watch a fair bit of Puck and Mana, as they both explain at least part of what they do. But none of them have pasts broadcasts for free. I'd like something along those lines.
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tl666
Profile Joined March 2015
Germany12 Posts
March 29 2015 10:57 GMT
#17009
Hello everone!

I'm a new SC2 player and I have difficulty with keeping the unit groups (1-9) updated. I don't have trouble deciding what unit goes to which group, what I do have trouble is that once I have groups, no matter how many times I add the last created units to it, there's ALWAYS units left out and I end up selecting the whole army and A-clicking

So basically... what's your trick?
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SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
March 29 2015 11:15 GMT
#17010
On March 29 2015 19:57 tl666 wrote:
Hello everone!

I'm a new SC2 player and I have difficulty with keeping the unit groups (1-9) updated. I don't have trouble deciding what unit goes to which group, what I do have trouble is that once I have groups, no matter how many times I add the last created units to it, there's ALWAYS units left out and I end up selecting the whole army and A-clicking

So basically... what's your trick?

Ctrl 1 creates a new control group, but Shift one adds to a current group.

So Shift + 1 puts the selected units in controlgroup one.

If you put your rally points at a specific location and make sure to ALWAYS assign units from the rally to a hotkey, you will never lose them ever again !
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
tl666
Profile Joined March 2015
Germany12 Posts
March 29 2015 11:39 GMT
#17011
On March 29 2015 20:15 SC2Toastie wrote:
Ctrl 1 creates a new control group, but Shift one adds to a current group.

So Shift + 1 puts the selected units in controlgroup one.

If you put your rally points at a specific location and make sure to ALWAYS assign units from the rally to a hotkey, you will never lose them ever again !


Thanks I'm aware of shift + number hotkey. I thought people would have a trick for this, but as you're telling me the only thing I'm doing wrong is not adding those new units with enough frequency! I guess there's no way around Thanks again for the help.
TLO for president!
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
March 29 2015 12:07 GMT
#17012
On March 29 2015 20:39 tl666 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 20:15 SC2Toastie wrote:
Ctrl 1 creates a new control group, but Shift one adds to a current group.

So Shift + 1 puts the selected units in controlgroup one.

If you put your rally points at a specific location and make sure to ALWAYS assign units from the rally to a hotkey, you will never lose them ever again !


Thanks I'm aware of shift + number hotkey. I thought people would have a trick for this, but as you're telling me the only thing I'm doing wrong is not adding those new units with enough frequency! I guess there's no way around Thanks again for the help.

You'll have to get in the habbit

Glgl!
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
Gwavajuice
Profile Joined June 2014
France1810 Posts
March 29 2015 12:17 GMT
#17013
On March 29 2015 21:07 SC2Toastie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 20:39 tl666 wrote:
On March 29 2015 20:15 SC2Toastie wrote:
Ctrl 1 creates a new control group, but Shift one adds to a current group.

So Shift + 1 puts the selected units in controlgroup one.

If you put your rally points at a specific location and make sure to ALWAYS assign units from the rally to a hotkey, you will never lose them ever again !


Thanks I'm aware of shift + number hotkey. I thought people would have a trick for this, but as you're telling me the only thing I'm doing wrong is not adding those new units with enough frequency! I guess there's no way around Thanks again for the help.

You'll have to get in the habbit

Glgl!



Yeah it's an habit after a while you ctrl+hotkey your units without thinking. But there are small differences for each races :

- as terran you waypoint your created units to a specific spot and come back to this post every now and then to add the new units to the group you want (if pssoible use a camera location key).

- as Protoss you do this as the units are warped near you pylon (robo and stargate units are grouped with the "terran method" though)

- as Zerg you group when units are still in the eggs (control click the eggs, shift click to add them in groups - look around for detailed guide about how to do this)
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Supersamu
Profile Joined November 2014
Germany296 Posts
April 03 2015 15:18 GMT
#17014
When will the Swarm host patch hit the servers? I thought it was supposed to be at the end of March, but I don't see it in Liquipedia.
Is there a thread about the Swarm host patch, so I can see what changed?
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
April 03 2015 18:29 GMT
#17015
On April 04 2015 00:18 Supersamu wrote:
When will the Swarm host patch hit the servers? I thought it was supposed to be at the end of March, but I don't see it in Liquipedia.
Is there a thread about the Swarm host patch, so I can see what changed?

It'll change after WCS Season 1, exact date hasn't been said I don't believe.
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Bojas
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2397 Posts
April 07 2015 13:32 GMT
#17016
Could anyone who's gosu at SC2 or an other game that requires accurate mouse control gimme some tips on how to improve my accuracy? Missclicks happen too often, so I want to filter out unnecessary clicks so my gameplay becomes less chaotic.

Also, on the computer I play most of the time, mouse acceleration is disabled through the Razer driver (I use a Deathadder). Should I disable it in the registry instead?
zelderan
Profile Joined May 2013
United States163 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-08 00:00:11
April 07 2015 23:40 GMT
#17017
On April 07 2015 22:32 Bojas wrote:
Could anyone who's gosu at SC2 or an other game that requires accurate mouse control gimme some tips on how to improve my accuracy? Missclicks happen too often, so I want to filter out unnecessary clicks so my gameplay becomes less chaotic.

Also, on the computer I play most of the time, mouse acceleration is disabled through the Razer driver (I use a Deathadder). Should I disable it in the registry instead?


Yo. If you haven't watched it before, day9's video on mouse control is stellar. I highly recommend that to anyone having mouse problems. Here ya go.

As for the mouse acceleration...it really depends on how you feel. If turning off the acceleration through the register helps at all, then use it. I don't personally use a razor mouse so I wouldn't know anything about their drivers.

Edit: And if you're having sensitivity issues, just try bumping it down little by little. Day9 goes over this in the video, as he talks about not having too high of a sensitivity.
"Pumpkin mut-muts!" ~ Tasteless
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
April 08 2015 00:54 GMT
#17018
for the record i play with mouse acceleration and prefer it. a lot of people claim it's improper because it's not accurate point-for-point movement, but if you get used to it and know how to handle it i don't really see the issue. people who play FPS on consoles think it's hard to aim with a mouse, which seems insane to me, but they're used to their way of playing. the important thing is you know what your mouse is going to do and it performs as you expect it to.
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Bojas
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2397 Posts
April 09 2015 17:44 GMT
#17019
Thanks all for the answers! WIll check that video out when I have time. I recall watching it a couple of years ago.
redloser
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1751 Posts
April 09 2015 20:23 GMT
#17020
does anybody know hots ZvT games in which the zerg opened with 2 base muta except Maru vs Soulkey G3 in IEM Taipei?
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